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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#661
Oka I'm back and Eden is being a puppy this game hmmmm. He calling Superbia Town by the fact his filter length is larger than his time in Imperial but I still think Superbia is Mafia from my earlier explanations of why I think Superbia is Mafia.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 22:27 GMT
#662
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 14 2015 22:28 GMT
#663
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:28 GMT
#664
On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote:
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.

Ooh, ooh, I know, I know. *raises hand and waves it back and forth*
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 22:28 GMT
#665
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

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On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


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On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#666
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

Why not tell us your thoughts on that?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 14 2015 22:30 GMT
#667
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?


fuck its recess hahahahaha

bring on the nostalgia
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:32 GMT
#668
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?

'The General', Carlton, Arnold from hey arnold with his head rotated 90º, Racist Randy, Cartman, Ellen DeGeneres

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JK I love recess
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 14 2015 22:32 GMT
#669
i only know tj detweiler and one of them has an ashley in their name

/thread
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 14 2015 22:33 GMT
#670
scum for derailing thread and bringing nostalgia
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:34 GMT
#671
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +
On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:35 GMT
#672
ugh that was a redundant post, remove one "if he was joking" from that post at your own discretion
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 22:36 GMT
#673
On February 15 2015 07:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


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On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

Why not tell us your thoughts on that?


I don't think it was serious so i don't think it is weird that he went on to question BH. He clearly misunderstood BH's RNG thing and had thought he had caught him in something. Yeah getting people to clarify it was irrelevent for them and shited up the thread but it made sense from his PoV.

I think none of that is alignment indicative because superbia would probably push it as town or mafia so I dont see how ff is scumreading him for it unless he thought the rayn read was serious.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 14 2015 22:37 GMT
#674
On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote:
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.


lots of reasons

nervous people talk too much

scum care too much about how they are perceived and getting the meaning right

some times scum read and edit their posts and leave tons of extra crap in there

there's lots of raisins, pick some.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#675
On February 15 2015 07:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote:
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.


lots of reasons

nervous people talk too much

scum care too much about how they are perceived and getting the meaning right

some times scum read and edit their posts and leave tons of extra crap in there

there's lots of raisins, pick some.


lol, one of these days I'll invest in a sarcasm sign xP It's sorely needed. Must say, though, you may actually be town this game ^^ as these arguments are a tier above the ones you tried to use to justify taking a shot at me in carol.

Also, FF, dude, if you can't remember the stupid argument you had with HtS about whether you were posting comfortably or not, don't know how to help you. Alzheimers is real xP
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#676
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:45 GMT
#677
On February 15 2015 07:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:37 ritoky wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote:
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.


lots of reasons

nervous people talk too much

scum care too much about how they are perceived and getting the meaning right

some times scum read and edit their posts and leave tons of extra crap in there

there's lots of raisins, pick some.


lol, one of these days I'll invest in a sarcasm sign xP It's sorely needed. Must say, though, you may actually be town this game ^^ as these arguments are a tier above the ones you tried to use to justify taking a shot at me in carol.

Also, FF, dude, if you can't remember the stupid argument you had with HtS about whether you were posting comfortably or not, don't know how to help you. Alzheimers is real xP

You said we went back and forth with 'you're uncomfortable' and 'no I'm not' I don't think we did. I think I said something more similar to "I don't care what you think of my posting"
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:47 GMT
#678
On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +
On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read

Rayn addresses superbia:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.

to which super replies
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
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On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?
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rsoultin
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February 14 2015 22:49 GMT
#679
On February 15 2015 07:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 15 2015 07:42 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:37 ritoky wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote:
The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.

The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.


lots of reasons

nervous people talk too much

scum care too much about how they are perceived and getting the meaning right

some times scum read and edit their posts and leave tons of extra crap in there

there's lots of raisins, pick some.


lol, one of these days I'll invest in a sarcasm sign xP It's sorely needed. Must say, though, you may actually be town this game ^^ as these arguments are a tier above the ones you tried to use to justify taking a shot at me in carol.

Also, FF, dude, if you can't remember the stupid argument you had with HtS about whether you were posting comfortably or not, don't know how to help you. Alzheimers is real xP

You said we went back and forth with 'you're uncomfortable' and 'no I'm not' I don't think we did. I think I said something more similar to "I don't care what you think of my posting"


Fair enough.

On February 14 2015 16:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:12 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Am I to keep notes on when and why I make posts before, during and after I make them? I'll have to find a pen....


That is besides the point.

You don't seem very comfortable. Ritoky was the first to make such an observation. I agreed upon seeing your latest response to me.

But even prior to my observation, the easiest way to refute that would have been to change your behaviour.

I don't care what you and ritoky think of my posting, though. I'm not sure how you can gauge my level of comfort through text anyway... You also don't seem very comfortable. You seem like you are trying so hard to act like you're trying to solve a game that's been going on for less than 3 hours...



The crux of my point was the argument was pretty useless on her part. But if we're going to talk semantics xP you did say you didn't care what she thought.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:50 GMT
#680
Ohhh, I thought you meant I was prolonging her useless argument. I see the misunderstanding
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