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thoughts on Eden's case on marv, anyone?
most of it was narrative, so that's kinda...eh. anyone can write a story. but I noticed and commented on how wishy-washy marv was leading up to EoD earlier, too, right up until the very end with Damdred
also have to kind of agree that giving the reins to GB-channeling eden cause his reads lined up with marv's when they change at a drop of a hat is at best silly
don't really think those points alone make him mafia, though
his sudden flurry of activity in response to Eden's case just seemed like a real scramble, though, and some of what he says doesn't line up with my impression of what went on at all
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On February 09 2015 01:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2015 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:
meh, reading the two of you going at it makes me less certain that jat is scum over hf
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?
hf, how do you go from saying you think the scumteam is ls/marv to you would be shooting bresh/eden/marv as mafia? don't get that at all. it's like he's probably scum but then so townie you'd shoot him? What? He asked me a mafia team that didn't include him and i said purely on d2 play only which ignores the entire game? maybe I shouldn't find it weird, since you think jat is mafia, but it made me go "huh?" when I read it Well his d1 play was towny and his d2 play is very lackluster and if marv was town and i was mafia i would absolutely be shooting one of those 3 n1.
Well guess what - me too. Go through any of my scumgames and tell me I would shoot fucking Palmar. I dare you.
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Although I can see Marv shoot Palmar for the fact that they know each others meta so well and he didn't want to deal with Palmar as town vs him again but I think it just pure WIFOM to think about why Palmar was shot.
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On February 09 2015 01:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Although I can see Marv shoot Palmar for the fact that they know each others meta so well and he didn't want to deal with Palmar as town vs him again but I think it just pure WIFOM to think about why Palmar was shot.
this from the guy with the magic 8 ball theory xP
weren't you the one saying you couldn't decide who was scum until you saw the N2 NKs?
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I've solved the game.
marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on.
I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right.
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##unvote
##vote marvellosity
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That's not even a tin foil hat theory anymore, lol.
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On February 09 2015 01:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Although I can see Marv shoot Palmar for the fact that they know each others meta so well and he didn't want to deal with Palmar as town vs him again but I think it just pure WIFOM to think about why Palmar was shot. this from the guy with the magic 8 ball theory xP weren't you the one saying you couldn't decide who was scum until you saw the N2 NKs?
I mean it would make it 100% solved from N2 NKs.
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On February 09 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:13 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2015 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:
meh, reading the two of you going at it makes me less certain that jat is scum over hf
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?
hf, how do you go from saying you think the scumteam is ls/marv to you would be shooting bresh/eden/marv as mafia? don't get that at all. it's like he's probably scum but then so townie you'd shoot him? What? He asked me a mafia team that didn't include him and i said purely on d2 play only which ignores the entire game? maybe I shouldn't find it weird, since you think jat is mafia, but it made me go "huh?" when I read it Well his d1 play was towny and his d2 play is very lackluster and if marv was town and i was mafia i would absolutely be shooting one of those 3 n1. Well guess what - me too. Go through any of my scumgames and tell me I would shoot fucking Palmar. I dare you.
I scum read that dood and he's a useless pile of poop
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bats did you forget that no one claimed blue other than Breshke right?
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On February 09 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 09 2015 01:13 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2015 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:
meh, reading the two of you going at it makes me less certain that jat is scum over hf
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?
hf, how do you go from saying you think the scumteam is ls/marv to you would be shooting bresh/eden/marv as mafia? don't get that at all. it's like he's probably scum but then so townie you'd shoot him? What? He asked me a mafia team that didn't include him and i said purely on d2 play only which ignores the entire game? maybe I shouldn't find it weird, since you think jat is mafia, but it made me go "huh?" when I read it Well his d1 play was towny and his d2 play is very lackluster and if marv was town and i was mafia i would absolutely be shooting one of those 3 n1. Well guess what - me too. Go through any of my scumgames and tell me I would shoot fucking Palmar. I dare you. I scum read that dood and he's a useless pile of poop
And I didn't? I took marvs wrath because I did not see his townread on Palmar!
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On February 08 2015 22:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and I never knew that Crtl+F did something o.o Thank You HF!
I can't be the only one who called bullshit on this in his head.
JAT's persistent lack of charity makes me want to lynch him, but it probably also makes him town, because I don't remember him being as aggressive as he is here when he played mafia. There's nothing preventing someone playing mafiasided from being histrionically aggressive as a front, but for someone who normally plays what I tend to think is a more passive and assuaging mafiaside game, and who hasn't been consistently this aggressive the whole way this game, the more likely explanation to me is that he's town.
But I also think HF is town...
And I think rso is right about marv's reaction to it. If it's such a dumb post why in the world did marv refuse to engage Holyflare until HF told me that marv is town? I get that it's a long post and if your kneejerk reaction is "this is dumb" then it's hard to drag oneself through the trouble of rebutting it, but at the same time I feel like if it's that dumb you don't make a big deal over it.
I dunno guys, the more I think about it the more I'm okay with marv as a lynch.
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I'M BEING 100% SERIOUS BTW
On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote:
I've solved the game.
marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on.
I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right.
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I dunnooooooooooooooo man
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Bats if Breshke was scumvig he would have just shot a townie instead and we would have been in LYLO instantly.
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I already came up with the theory breshke was mafia vig bats why you only acknowledge now :/
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On February 09 2015 01:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Bats if Breshke was scumvig he would have just shot a townie instead and we would have been in LYLO instantly.
We would have lynched breshke and koshi. What they did is flashier and just as good.
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On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote:
I've solved the game.
marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on.
I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right.
The Breshke part isn't as terrible as I initially thought when I read this, but we would have to have power roles out the ass for this to be a balanced game with a 2-shot mafia vig as the only known role out there.
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On February 09 2015 01:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Bats if Breshke was scumvig he would have just shot a townie instead and we would have been in LYLO instantly.
What if there's only 2 mafia with a 2 shot vig and no town roles??
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On February 09 2015 01:26 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Bats if Breshke was scumvig he would have just shot a townie instead and we would have been in LYLO instantly. We would have lynched breshke and koshi. What they did is flashier and just as good.
Marv is not a flashy scum player though :/
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