• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:18
CET 23:18
KST 07:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review RSL S3 ro16 [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players?
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1088 users

[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 13:20 GMT
#2868
On March 08 2015 21:41 Onegu wrote:
Happy Birthday, wrote it in the other game don't know if you saw it.

Now vote me Mayor.


Cheers.

Who are the three you'd put on the mission? Not sure if that's changed from your last post.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 13:23 GMT
#2869
I need to look at a few more filters to see if I'm off on anyone.

Off the cuff, I'm not sure why Kurumi has Breshke as mafia, especially at this stage in the game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 13:28 GMT
#2870
On March 08 2015 16:37 Tubesock wrote:
I like that he's not seeking out people, but will interact with anyone who does him. He also throws in some reads (course he has to no matter what) but it really boils down to he makes me think more and gives me ideas.

But you are right, he is not making the game easier for town.


...except that he didnt explain his reads earlier on and the current list he has makes zero sense where we are in mylo. Anyone can throw a list of reads when they have perfect information as mafia. Covered that already.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 13:32 GMT
#2871
Voted Onegu for mayor. I need to afk for now, but will be back later today.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 09 2015 14:00 GMT
#2934
I am not mafia.

I will case Tubesock tonight when I'm off work.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 09 2015 14:06 GMT
#2937
Well then.

I won't be casing anyone at this point, exiting stage left.

GGs. I'll talk more postgame.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:00 GMT
#3023
I was right on Kurumi and Slam being mafia. Wrong on LS and Keirathi, the latter was hard to tell, never played with him. And LS's town meta is too close to his scum's meta. Looks like I won't be trusting him quite as much now, and studying this game...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 00:12:02
March 10 2015 00:07 GMT
#3032
GG WP mafia.

As for me, I think I have quite a lot of explaining to do assuming that Rasputin and/or OWS don't submit ban requests for me.

(Yes I shot both of them as third party ninja. FML.)

My reads were way off this game, and I wound up mafia siding hard. The fact that 5 of us - 4 town and myself trying to be town-aligned just jumped on SL....I don't even. What a mess up that was.

As I explained in Obs QT, I shot Rasputin deliberately even through I TRed her. It was self-preservation because my D1 went south so quickly - too many people didn't know how to read me - and I had RL stuff that would prevent me from posting as much, so I needed to take out someone that would can me for activity. It was between her and SL to shoot D1 and I picked her since she harped on my posting. If my D1 had gone better I would have shot into Bats/OWS/Fecalfeast, similar to a vigilante kill. 100% preservation, nothing more, nothing less.

D2 I shot OWS - I don't know how to read him. His filter looked shady and I had him between 50% scum and 50% ninja 1.

The way we all lumped onto SL at the end...I was so sure SOMEONE was taking advantage of a town fuckup. The truth was we all fucked up.

I voted sicklucker out of pure paranoia, because he'd deceived town so many times through his style of posting. Even though I just had bad bad bad feelings about sandroba's gameplay. That proved to be completely diabolical on my end.

That said I have never played third party ever before. I hope I never RNG third party again, even though I met wincon, but only so through modkills. I really had close to zero idea what I was doing, so I just went for self-preservation and tried to play my town game as best as I could since I need stupid amounts of work on that. This game only goes to show that RL aside, I need more work than I thought.

Bats's scum meta is that he does jack all, and he did jack all. There was also a lot of townies not playing well, with the exception of SL/Tube/Kita.

So town, I'm sorry for hurting you lot. My commiserations.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 00:16:37
March 10 2015 00:13 GMT
#3038
On March 10 2015 09:11 Keirathi wrote:
Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose.


Ehhhh, let's just say from what I understand a number of people in Obs QT were pissed at the ninjas, especially the one that shot two townies. And Rasputin knows me very well, she will be fuming when she discovers that I shot her.

EDIT: Also people were under the impression that she was shot because of Rayn and Koshi telling the ninja to shoot her. In actuality, that was completely untrue. I'm painfully aware dead townies can be wrong.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:15 GMT
#3039
Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.

I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:32 GMT
#3054
On March 10 2015 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
you should have lynched Sandroba like the dead townies told you to


N1 or N2? N1 I had to shoot for preservation because if the lynch mechanic wasn't in my favour, I very well could have been duelled by someone who didn't like me for instance and I would have gotten annihilated.

N2, I debated shooting Sandroba, but I really wanted to kill that other ninja. I saw ninja in ObiWanShinobi. I thought "omg hero play" and I was clamouring to hit him right as 72h mark hit.

It was not a hero play.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:33 GMT
#3058
On March 10 2015 09:28 Kurumi wrote:
I also agree with Toad that bullying is absolutely terrible.


1000%
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:39 GMT
#3065
Kitaman I also want to say I <3 you for being the only one in the game to townread me all the way through even though you have only played with me once, because ninja kills aside, that was the game I was trying to play!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 00:46:35
March 10 2015 00:45 GMT
#3066
On March 10 2015 09:32 Toadesstern wrote:
lynch him on d2, not shoot him.


Ahhh so you are asking why I lynched SL instead of Sandroba? Thought I explained in obs qt.

I could not decide between the two. They both looked bad. I overthought the whole thing and I was TRing (at that time) geript, Kita, Breshke, etc basically it was herd mentality and most of them were voting SL, and LS and Tube were voting Sandroba.

I can't tell you how much time I put into reading and re-reading SL's filter and trying to meta him.

sicklucker is a very difficult player to read, and I became paranoid that if we lynched Sandroba and he was town, that I'd be kicking myself in the rear for not killing sicklucker.

I also completely ignored the spirit messages - I thought it was just all a distraction. That was the sad part.

And Tube, you scumread me for not getting mechanics. I have misunderstand mechanics at least twice before in games...as both alignments.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:48 GMT
#3070
On March 10 2015 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:
He proably should not have claimed though.


I had zero clue that it was Robik until he claimed.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 00:56:14
March 10 2015 00:52 GMT
#3072
Vote count
sicklucker (10): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke, Alakaslam, sandroba, Alakaslam, kitaman27, Half the Sky, ObiWanShinobi, Tubesock
Sandroba (6): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, IAmRobik
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (2): batsnacks, sicklucker

Not voted (1): Keirathi

Looking through all the VCAs done on both sides (town and scum), that massive town clusterfuck...can't blame all of us in the pileup for blaming each other. Several people ignored Kurumi as an isolated vote, thought that should have given him away if his trolling and unexplained sporadic reads didn't.

Not to mention that Kitaman was dead on about mafia placing their votes early and that town was entirely responsible for the fuckup at the end (myself notwithstanding).

Kita, how did you know not to blame any of us when the rest of us were pointing fingers at each other? God tier reads?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:55 GMT
#3075
On March 10 2015 09:54 rsoultin wrote:
lolol oh dude, ls was scum this game?


Yes, he was. And geript coached him to play exactly like his town meta. No one was the wiser.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 00:57 GMT
#3079
On March 10 2015 09:55 Tubesock wrote:
The other thing I couldn't understand is that you were using mechanics to base your decisions on.


Herd mentality/sheeping Kita. As in he was considering mechanics in his decision.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 10 2015 01:00 GMT
#3081
On March 10 2015 09:56 kitaman27 wrote:
I think he should have shot in that situation but not at sandroba since he was almost certainly mafia at that point. If I were him I would have shot into the scummiest ninja suspect. Maybe someone like kurumi or slam where they had a decent chance of being third party, but the game wouldn't end if he was wrong.


This is exactly why I didn't shoot sandroba. Kurumi and Slam were pure scum to me so I didn't shoot them either. But that was the same rationale I used to shoot OWS.

Of course, I think it would be helpful for me going forward if I knew the difference between OWS' town and mafia metas. Or if he even has a meta.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 14:40:32
March 10 2015 14:40 GMT
#3199
On March 10 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Glad that's over. I was hyped for the start of day 1 and then had so much trouble doing anything after. I think I got burned out. A shame, really, especially after I got doctor.

HTS is apologizing profusely for shooting me, but lmao don't worry about it. A large number of players think I'm a hard read, even in games I'm incredibly active in.


Fair play. I just remember you in the qt being sorely disappointed getting what may have been a game-changing ability for town and then in cruel irony for me to shoot you just hours before the daypost.

Not that I'd have ever known you had an ability but still.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
SteadfastSC425
IndyStarCraft 245
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 425
IndyStarCraft 245
UpATreeSC 104
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 775
Counter-Strike
Foxcn155
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken25
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu443
Other Games
summit1g3487
Grubby2410
FrodaN416
Pyrionflax227
C9.Mang088
Maynarde62
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL228
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 65
• musti20045 21
• Adnapsc2 20
• RyuSc2 16
• Dystopia_ 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 51
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21116
• Ler83
League of Legends
• TFBlade1093
Other Games
• imaqtpie1189
• Scarra392
• WagamamaTV270
• Shiphtur103
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
2h 42m
Replay Cast
10h 42m
WardiTV Korean Royale
13h 42m
LAN Event
16h 42m
OSC
1d
The PondCast
1d 11h
LAN Event
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.