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On March 08 2015 21:41 Onegu wrote: Happy Birthday, wrote it in the other game don't know if you saw it.
Now vote me Mayor.
Cheers.
Who are the three you'd put on the mission? Not sure if that's changed from your last post.
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I need to look at a few more filters to see if I'm off on anyone.
Off the cuff, I'm not sure why Kurumi has Breshke as mafia, especially at this stage in the game.
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On March 08 2015 16:37 Tubesock wrote: I like that he's not seeking out people, but will interact with anyone who does him. He also throws in some reads (course he has to no matter what) but it really boils down to he makes me think more and gives me ideas.
But you are right, he is not making the game easier for town.
...except that he didnt explain his reads earlier on and the current list he has makes zero sense where we are in mylo. Anyone can throw a list of reads when they have perfect information as mafia. Covered that already.
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Voted Onegu for mayor. I need to afk for now, but will be back later today.
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I am not mafia.
I will case Tubesock tonight when I'm off work.
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Well then.
I won't be casing anyone at this point, exiting stage left.
GGs. I'll talk more postgame.
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I was right on Kurumi and Slam being mafia. Wrong on LS and Keirathi, the latter was hard to tell, never played with him. And LS's town meta is too close to his scum's meta. Looks like I won't be trusting him quite as much now, and studying this game...
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GG WP mafia.
As for me, I think I have quite a lot of explaining to do assuming that Rasputin and/or OWS don't submit ban requests for me.
(Yes I shot both of them as third party ninja. FML.)
My reads were way off this game, and I wound up mafia siding hard. The fact that 5 of us - 4 town and myself trying to be town-aligned just jumped on SL....I don't even. What a mess up that was.
As I explained in Obs QT, I shot Rasputin deliberately even through I TRed her. It was self-preservation because my D1 went south so quickly - too many people didn't know how to read me - and I had RL stuff that would prevent me from posting as much, so I needed to take out someone that would can me for activity. It was between her and SL to shoot D1 and I picked her since she harped on my posting. If my D1 had gone better I would have shot into Bats/OWS/Fecalfeast, similar to a vigilante kill. 100% preservation, nothing more, nothing less.
D2 I shot OWS - I don't know how to read him. His filter looked shady and I had him between 50% scum and 50% ninja 1.
The way we all lumped onto SL at the end...I was so sure SOMEONE was taking advantage of a town fuckup. The truth was we all fucked up.
I voted sicklucker out of pure paranoia, because he'd deceived town so many times through his style of posting. Even though I just had bad bad bad feelings about sandroba's gameplay. That proved to be completely diabolical on my end.
That said I have never played third party ever before. I hope I never RNG third party again, even though I met wincon, but only so through modkills. I really had close to zero idea what I was doing, so I just went for self-preservation and tried to play my town game as best as I could since I need stupid amounts of work on that. This game only goes to show that RL aside, I need more work than I thought.
Bats's scum meta is that he does jack all, and he did jack all. There was also a lot of townies not playing well, with the exception of SL/Tube/Kita.
So town, I'm sorry for hurting you lot. My commiserations.
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On March 10 2015 09:11 Keirathi wrote: Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose.
Ehhhh, let's just say from what I understand a number of people in Obs QT were pissed at the ninjas, especially the one that shot two townies. And Rasputin knows me very well, she will be fuming when she discovers that I shot her.
EDIT: Also people were under the impression that she was shot because of Rayn and Koshi telling the ninja to shoot her. In actuality, that was completely untrue. I'm painfully aware dead townies can be wrong.
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Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.
I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it.
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On March 10 2015 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:you should have lynched Sandroba like the dead townies told you to
N1 or N2? N1 I had to shoot for preservation because if the lynch mechanic wasn't in my favour, I very well could have been duelled by someone who didn't like me for instance and I would have gotten annihilated.
N2, I debated shooting Sandroba, but I really wanted to kill that other ninja. I saw ninja in ObiWanShinobi. I thought "omg hero play" and I was clamouring to hit him right as 72h mark hit.
It was not a hero play.
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On March 10 2015 09:28 Kurumi wrote: I also agree with Toad that bullying is absolutely terrible.
1000%
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Kitaman I also want to say I <3 you for being the only one in the game to townread me all the way through even though you have only played with me once, because ninja kills aside, that was the game I was trying to play!
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On March 10 2015 09:32 Toadesstern wrote: lynch him on d2, not shoot him.
Ahhh so you are asking why I lynched SL instead of Sandroba? Thought I explained in obs qt.
I could not decide between the two. They both looked bad. I overthought the whole thing and I was TRing (at that time) geript, Kita, Breshke, etc basically it was herd mentality and most of them were voting SL, and LS and Tube were voting Sandroba.
I can't tell you how much time I put into reading and re-reading SL's filter and trying to meta him.
sicklucker is a very difficult player to read, and I became paranoid that if we lynched Sandroba and he was town, that I'd be kicking myself in the rear for not killing sicklucker.
I also completely ignored the spirit messages - I thought it was just all a distraction. That was the sad part.
And Tube, you scumread me for not getting mechanics. I have misunderstand mechanics at least twice before in games...as both alignments.
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On March 10 2015 09:46 Toadesstern wrote: He proably should not have claimed though.
I had zero clue that it was Robik until he claimed.
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Vote count sicklucker (10): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke, Alakaslam, sandroba, Alakaslam, kitaman27, Half the Sky, ObiWanShinobi, Tubesock Sandroba (6): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, IAmRobik Onegu (1): Kurumi Tubesock (2): batsnacks, sicklucker
Not voted (1): Keirathi
Looking through all the VCAs done on both sides (town and scum), that massive town clusterfuck...can't blame all of us in the pileup for blaming each other. Several people ignored Kurumi as an isolated vote, thought that should have given him away if his trolling and unexplained sporadic reads didn't.
Not to mention that Kitaman was dead on about mafia placing their votes early and that town was entirely responsible for the fuckup at the end (myself notwithstanding).
Kita, how did you know not to blame any of us when the rest of us were pointing fingers at each other? God tier reads?
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On March 10 2015 09:54 rsoultin wrote: lolol oh dude, ls was scum this game?
Yes, he was. And geript coached him to play exactly like his town meta. No one was the wiser.
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On March 10 2015 09:55 Tubesock wrote: The other thing I couldn't understand is that you were using mechanics to base your decisions on.
Herd mentality/sheeping Kita. As in he was considering mechanics in his decision.
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On March 10 2015 09:56 kitaman27 wrote: I think he should have shot in that situation but not at sandroba since he was almost certainly mafia at that point. If I were him I would have shot into the scummiest ninja suspect. Maybe someone like kurumi or slam where they had a decent chance of being third party, but the game wouldn't end if he was wrong.
This is exactly why I didn't shoot sandroba. Kurumi and Slam were pure scum to me so I didn't shoot them either. But that was the same rationale I used to shoot OWS.
Of course, I think it would be helpful for me going forward if I knew the difference between OWS' town and mafia metas. Or if he even has a meta.
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On March 10 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Glad that's over. I was hyped for the start of day 1 and then had so much trouble doing anything after. I think I got burned out. A shame, really, especially after I got doctor.
HTS is apologizing profusely for shooting me, but lmao don't worry about it. A large number of players think I'm a hard read, even in games I'm incredibly active in.
Fair play. I just remember you in the qt being sorely disappointed getting what may have been a game-changing ability for town and then in cruel irony for me to shoot you just hours before the daypost.
Not that I'd have ever known you had an ability but still.
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