EPT[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia - Page 51
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Damdred
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Do you not like the content in his filter or just the quantity of it? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote: Hey people finally have power back. I'm missing some content I'll finish catching up now Welcome back. When you are able, can you elaborate on your read on LS? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:55 Half the Sky wrote: Kurumi isn't doing jack all with the one read post either, Tube. He wouldn't be a bad shot, unless someone can vouch for his play. Rayn, why are you saying Kurumi (probably) is town? This is the only post that isn't full out troll and he could be pulling names from anywhere. Doesn't say anything with his reads. First of all his reads he presents are about 100% correct. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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geript
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:00 kitaman27 wrote: HTS could you respond to my question when you have a chance? Thanks. Alright, hold on. I've missed it. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant...  I have now updated my list! Chezinu raynpelikoneet LightningStrike HalfTheSky Alakaslam kitatheman27 Foolishness your mom ObiWanShinobi I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot! Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it! | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:37 geript wrote: Ok so basically it boils down to 1 simple thing. Syllogism is in this game. There's literally no one in the world that has ever or will ever read Sandroba as well as Syllogism. So if we leave Sandro alive N1 and he doesn't receive a power, then we auto lynch him. If he does receive a power, we evaluate both his use of it and what power was given. Like it's complete win/win. More often than not a lazy/afk sandroba equals a mafia sandroba. We obviously can't rely on mechanics we aren't aware of, but leaving him around a day or two and seeing if he follows this metric usually does the trick. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:58 Half the Sky wrote: EBWOP - Tube, got the names mixed up. I was getting more townie vibes from Keirathi from the little he posted, but would like to see more before calling him town. Do you not like the content in his filter or just the quantity of it? Both. my notes say "not a single thing". But really he has one post where he calls out Rayn for not calling Toad mafia even though he beat around the bush about it. The rest is nothing nothing. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all his reads he presents are about 100% correct. Alright so if I understand you right, he has god tier reads, but how do you differentiate between that and a scummer having perfect information or a scummer sheeping reads? I mean if you have a god tier read on him fine, but for someone like me who doesn't know him very well, what should I be looking for? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote: Greetings friends! I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant... I have now updated my list! Chezinu raynpelikoneet LightningStrike HalfTheSky Alakaslam kitatheman27 Foolishness your mom ObiWanShinobi I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot! Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it! What changed your mind about Slam? Why is spirit Foolishness in your list? Or even how? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:03 kitaman27 wrote: More often than not a lazy/afk sandroba equals a mafia sandroba. We obviously can't rely on mechanics we aren't aware of, but leaving him around a day or two and seeing if he follows this metric usually does the trick. Fair. But the last game I know that he played he was super active scum so... I get your point. I still think it's a good shot though because it essentially requires mafia to waste powers/points on Sandroba. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:04 Half the Sky wrote: Alright so if I understand you right, he has god tier reads, but how do you differentiate between that and a scummer having perfect information or a scummer sheeping reads? I mean if you have a god tier read on him fine, but for someone like me who doesn't know him very well, what should I be looking for? You should not care about him and read him town as long as he has good reads. If he is mafia and whants to throw his team under the bus fine, let him do so. He has to make shit up at some point. I am not interested in him atm because he isn't pushing anything i feel is mafia agenda. It makes him probably town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:03 kitaman27 wrote: More often than not a lazy/afk sandroba equals a mafia sandroba. We obviously can't rely on mechanics we aren't aware of, but leaving him around a day or two and seeing if he follows this metric usually does the trick. early on, not really. If he keeps doing it yes but we're only 24 hours in, thus making him a bad target for d1 imo. He's not that hard to read if you just give him some time. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote: Hey people finally have power back. I'm missing some content I'll finish catching up now What happened that caused your power to go out? Also can you give reads and stuff when you catch up please? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On March 03 2015 23:06 Mocsta wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=Breshke&view=all Bresche filter. Conclusion: Fairly likely to be mafia Recommend to be shot Reasoning Wishywashy Content Bresche early filter focuses on the "plan" for town to control the shot after 24hrs. This is not typically alignment indicative early on, however, it is interesting to note that Bresche has a focus on establishing "town" reads; and not questioning his "scum" reads. Even more so, given that Rayn has been quite active in the thread. Further, note the confidence Bresche exudes when referring to Tubesock (and to a lesser degree Slam + Koshi + FecalFeast) as town. Everyone knows list collaborations are an easy tool for scum to utilising when feigning contribution. But Bresche begs to differ, offering the generic morsel that this effort is too much to be scum. Which leads us to Congruence I get no focus in his filter. There is talk but none of it has proper conclusions that are reinforced within *THIS* game. His filter has no consistency in thought. Posts within a short duration jump from target to target; which when combined with the tendency to buddy people as town indicate a motive to blend in and offer meaningless contributions. Possibly best exemplified by: & Couple points Bresche goes into a lot of detail to debunk Epiphany points on Geript, however, at no point takes a stance on Geript OR EPIPHANY This is critical. Bresche last 2 paragraphs reads as "Im about to wreck yo", and ends miserley with ... "please post more" Think about this.. town *WANT* to pursue their scumspects. What we get here is Bresche saying this: (1) I want you to hang yourself; or, (2) I want someone else to take the lead with hanging you; or, (3) I am giving myself flexibilty to pursue or withdraw. I havent played mafia in about a year, but to me, this has always been indicative of a mafia mentality. I'm still far ways off of catching up, but I found this post pretty good and have something to add to this. Breshe is indeed wishywashy again in his interaction with rayn. Rayn is pushing the idea that I'm scum for wanting to guard the button (not sure about rayn yet, but I believe he is just a misguided town, I'm not about to argue why I think guarding the button is best, because that's not the point). Breshe comes in to say he believes it is not scummy and immediately gets bullied by rayn. Breshe ends up agreeing with rayn that my behavior is scummy, even though he himself thought it wasn't scummy to do what I proposed. Wouldn't him as a towny think that I might have been thinking the same thing as him and didn't consider what rayn said like he didn't? Instead he takes the route of avoiding conflict and quickly fades away into the background. I think this only makes sense in a mafia mindset and would be my vote to shoot so far. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote: Greetings friends! I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant... I have now updated my list! Chezinu raynpelikoneet LightningStrike HalfTheSky Alakaslam kitatheman27 Foolishness your mom ObiWanShinobi I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot! Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it! Hmm you put a spirit as Mafia yet lacking content in your post can you filter dive someone and give me your thoughts on them? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:04 Half the Sky wrote: Alright so if I understand you right, he has god tier reads, but how do you differentiate between that and a scummer having perfect information or a scummer sheeping reads? I mean if you have a god tier read on him fine, but for someone like me who doesn't know him very well, what should I be looking for? lol three of his five reads at that point were on himself, a spirit, myself who had only said "hi", plus two town reads. Is a scummer having "perfect information" even relevant to think about here? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote: Hmm you put a spirit as Mafia yet lacking content in your post can you filter dive someone and give me your thoughts on them? lol | ||
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