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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:47 GMT
#1705
On March 05 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is literally no way geript is town if he has a gun. Literally no way!
Neither of Syllogism & Foolishness is stupid enough to give geript a gun if they are town spirit.
NEITHER!

If geript has a gun he is 100% mafia and got the gun from mafia spirit. Let this be 100% known.
totes true

Bullshit. I was universally townread D1. I also had good targets to shoot. Now I've added another. If I were mafia, I wouldn't tell a soul about it. I also wouldn't try to get thoughts on people I was planning to shoot. It'd 100% be extra scum kp. Hell I'd probably hold onto it for a day or two. Maybe the mafia spirit gave it to me. Maybe but I really doubt that. I've played really tucking well this game so I can't see being given KP.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:49 GMT
#1708
On March 05 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 04:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 05 2015 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 05 2015 02:06 Kurumi wrote:
Oh no!!! Not Kosher the Printer Repair Guy!!! It must've been those HR people! Vile snakes! They are supposed to help people, not get them to kill themselves!!! It's probably because of the name. Human Resources. Do you feel like a resource? I don't. I work with HR. People work with HR. HR is everywhere. I have made a grave mistake not reforming this branch of my company. From now on we have a department called People's Republic! Hmm... no, it does not work... It'll clash with Public Relations... Think Chezinu think...

Ah! The meeting! Yes, yes, yes...

Welcome all!
I am very displeased that our freshest addition had to be terminated today. He passed our tests and filed the forms with flying colours! Many employees he was working with reported suspicious behaviour, which I have also taken into account, as something possibly connected to the T.E.A.M. . His blatant lies about my nature, your Benevolent CEO, and misconduct were enough of a basis to believe his intentions are not the best. After contacting some of my friends, including Lucy and John, we agreed that it was just him being young and naive. I forgive you and am pleased to inform you that skills you possess will surely come in handy in two years from now on. Please apply again! Positive outcome is sure!

As I've told you all, it is very important to have your gun polished! What I didn't say is that you can polish your guns elsewhere cheaper! But wait! There's more! Polishing your gun somewhere else had a chance of the employee just spitting on the gun, then using toilet paper to scrape off what he could, rendering your gun totally useless instead of potentially useless! That's what happened - that's what I told you! The question arises - why would somebody use shady services instead of the trustworthy Corporation? Why would they use such services then to kill one of good employees? Why did they tried to influence our workplace using foreign means? Fufufu... if I only could send people to HR... That reminds me, HR stays. As Human Removal. I have such power to do so and I am going to use it! Haha! Always sunny in CEO's room!

Updated list:

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam
your mom
Koshi
syllogism
Toadesstern

Foolishness
Sepulchre
Mocsta
IAmRobik

Kurumi
sicklucker
Keirathi

ObiWanShinobi
kitatheman27


I'm not fully caught up but did anyone else actually look at this list? Nobody really commented on it in the next page or so afterward.

1)Syllogism/foolishness, how does he know which spirit is which and why are they even on the list?
2)I don't exist?
3)Are there blues in this game? I thought someone (koshi?) said there were none and we had to get powers from the spirits. Why are people blue coloured and why are you blue yourself in this list?
4)No explanation for anything, how has nobody other than LS pinged this list?

AM I MISSING SOME SUPER OBVIOUS JOKE HERE?


Heh you're absent from the thread for 15 hours and this is the topic you decide to comment about upon your return? Any conclusion here?

Also, 1) No 2) Yes 3) Dunno 4) meh

My conclusion is that kurumi is being useless and nobody seems to care

Look at the people tow reading him then.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:57 GMT
#1720
On March 05 2015 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 04:47 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is literally no way geript is town if he has a gun. Literally no way!
Neither of Syllogism & Foolishness is stupid enough to give geript a gun if they are town spirit.
NEITHER!

If geript has a gun he is 100% mafia and got the gun from mafia spirit. Let this be 100% known.
totes true

Bullshit. I was universally townread D1. 1) I also had good targets to shoot. 2) Now I've added another. If I were mafia, I wouldn't tell a soul about it. I also wouldn't try to get thoughts on people I was planning to shoot. It'd 100% be extra scum kp. Hell I'd probably hold onto it for a day or two. Maybe the mafia spirit gave it to me. Maybe but I really doubt that. I've played really tucking well this game so I can't see being given KP.

1) Koshi flipped town if you havn't realized yet
2) If you're town you're not telling anyone about it either because if we have powerroles so does mafia. If mafia has powerroles you are essentially a +1 mafia KP because if you hit town (they know who is mafia and who isn't) they'll let it get through while RB'ing / protecting him if he is mafia. Also there's no way to prove wether or not you actually did anything.

It was fucking obvious I got cop/vigi power at the start of night. Like mafia would have to be really fucking stupid to not see that.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:01 GMT
#1725
Because if I read 1 guy who was lower activity, less happy and less content than normal wrong what makes me sure that I'm not wrong about Onegu too. Especially when he had a post that was really towny of him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:03 GMT
#1727
On March 03 2015 08:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:19 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:15 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:14 Damdred wrote:
##PRESS THE DEVICE

Its here for a reason we won't be pansies so lets do this!

Also geript is the most obvious town in the thread

Just wait until D2. I'm confirmed mafia then remember?


This time I won't go all retard, and we both came around last game so we have made progress in our relationship

But aren't you married? I don't fool around with married guys, sorry bbycakes.



Lies! You totally wanted my body then said you wouldn't tell a soul, when I said my wife wouldn't be happy.

This one. It's one I had forgotten about but he still was way less active, jokey and posty than normal.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:05 GMT
#1728
On March 05 2015 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:01 geript wrote:
Because if I read 1 guy who was lower activity, less happy and less content than normal wrong what makes me sure that I'm not wrong about Onegu too. Especially when he had a post that was really towny of him.

BUT YOUR READS ARE REALLY FUCKIGN AWESOME REMEMBER?!?!?!?

And I'm also wrong a shit ton. I've always been far more confident in my town reads than my scum reads. Keep on talking Rayn. Keep on talking.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:07 GMT
#1730
Like why the duck do you even think I sheep so often? Like I don't even trust my early reads most of the time.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:11 GMT
#1735
On March 05 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:03 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:47 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:19 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:15 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:14 Damdred wrote:
##PRESS THE DEVICE

Its here for a reason we won't be pansies so lets do this!

Also geript is the most obvious town in the thread

Just wait until D2. I'm confirmed mafia then remember?


This time I won't go all retard, and we both came around last game so we have made progress in our relationship

But aren't you married? I don't fool around with married guys, sorry bbycakes.



Lies! You totally wanted my body then said you wouldn't tell a soul, when I said my wife wouldn't be happy.

This one. It's one I had forgotten about but he still was way less active, jokey and posty than normal.

You are lying, that post happened about a irl day before you said Onegu is the best shot.

Nope I'm not. Around noonish my time I spend time filtering Onegu and looking at his past games to see if I missed something. And I looked at Koshi from the last few. And I was trying to figure out if I was right, who I was right on or if I was just being a dumbass jerk like I was with DP in that N0 game. When I had decided to shoot Koshi he had kinda come back and I was slowly realizing that I was wrong and he got himself modkilled. Like it didn't even sink in at first.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:14 GMT
#1739
On March 05 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Onegu has a total of FIVE posts, FIVE POSTS!
And you "forget about one of them" and have a top #1 (or #2 whatever) scumread on him.

You NEVER, EVER called Onegu town in your filter. NEVER. Which you would have done if you thought that post was in fact townie.

Because I don't think he's town. And yes. It's quite easy to forget about a random joke post in this game. Especially early on when I was still fucking salty about getting mislynched in like 3 different games in a row and almost in a fourth. Like it's the fucking cool thing to do to townread me on D1 then mislynch me because you think there's some random crazy fucking way I could actually be mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:15 GMT
#1741
I'm really not bullshitting about being a one-shot vigi either. Think what you want.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:18 GMT
#1743
Robik, You're a fucking idiot if you think that I claimed getting cop. Like literally all you have to do is fucking read the fucking thread.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#1750
On March 05 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:14 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Onegu has a total of FIVE posts, FIVE POSTS!
And you "forget about one of them" and have a top #1 (or #2 whatever) scumread on him.

You NEVER, EVER called Onegu town in your filter. NEVER. Which you would have done if you thought that post was in fact townie.

Because I don't think he's town. And yes. It's quite easy to forget about a random joke post in this game. Especially early on when I was still fucking salty about getting mislynched in like 3 different games in a row and almost in a fourth. Like it's the fucking cool thing to do to townread me on D1 then mislynch me because you think there's some random crazy fucking way I could actually be mafia.

Like which is it?
- It has been a reason you didn't shoot him -> townie post
- It has not been a townie posts
- It is apparently now a random joke post

WHICH IS IT? It can't be all of those. Yet you have used that post as a reasoning for doing two completely different things now.

Do you ever fucking listen to me? I read Onegu off of 3 different things:
1. Content-- I don't expect a lot but I expect some
2. Happiness--He really enjoys playing town. He's a lot happier and more jovial when he's town. He'll make lots of little jokes here and there and do shit.
3. Activity--He posts way more as town than as mafia.

So yes, a random joke from him, one that's very in line with the flavor of the thread and quite funny is towny of him. The problem is that that's contrasted with a distinct lack of content and a distinct lack of activity. So where he would usually have more jokes/etc he has posts like this:
On March 04 2015 10:04 Onegu wrote:
So yeah Rayn and Robik being in such huge hurries to shoot makes them both town IMO. I am really kinda behind having just scanned over everything. But since I'm such OBV town it's all good.

Which he would 100 make as mafia. Basically a quick in and out and say something and go do something else.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:28 GMT
#1754
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.

You mean like a massive dick enough to try and use PM's to determine someone's alignment. Because that dick would be you. What's really funny about it is that you did it in Artanis' game. Because you and everyone else knows that Artanis always tells mafia what the VT role pm is. Like that's a massive dick play on top of being a really fucking stupid play. That's what up.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:31 GMT
#1756
Ok Kita, How about we talk about Tube.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:36 GMT
#1759
On March 05 2015 03:38 geript wrote:
@Kita. Regarding Tube. I had to go back and look at my summary of the Newbie game and his filter. On length it's about what I expect. He's under similar pressure in that game too IIRC. There are a few things that I note that are quite different.

First, in the newbie game while his filter isn't great he has some real gems of insight here and there. Things that really show how he's thinking about the game. Not just the "If everyone's scumreading Shining" post but more like:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 11:17 Tubesock wrote:
Even if you read Rsoultin's legacy concerning Silverarte it's like she doesn't want to insult her by calling her mafia since they are friends. There isn't a single towny word in Rsoultin's paragraph about Silver.

Like it's a really interesting thought. But I'm not really seeing anything like that this game. That's pretty remarkable to me.

Second, in the newbie game he's reasonably opinionated. Like he makes points on people and interacts a bunch. Like almost all of his posts are to someone. I'm going to try and be specific about this but his posts are to the person in relation to the conversation they are having in the thread at that time. Like there's an intended back and forth. Where as this game it's far more of posting at people. Like he's interested in saying something but not in actually conversing or having that back and forth.

Third, I remember one of the heuristics used in Boardwalk revolved around who made plans and why. In Boardwalk, there were numerous plans based around picking numbers and what should be drafted where, etc. But I specifically remember someone talking about how mafia were more likely to propose a plan and just let it die. As I recall, I think it ended up getting a mafia lynched; I think it was part of why Gonzaw suspected Artanis. Either way, what I find interesting about his Votecount thing is that he doesn't really push it. He both likes and understands my "people cleared to shoot" list. But unlike, Rayn or me that game there was no constant revision in order to generate a better plan. There wasn't really any pushing for finding the best plan. It's more of a "I'm doing something plan but I don't really care about it."

Fourth, This post:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:51 your mom wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated")

now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it?


I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.

Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way.

What I find interesting about this post is that finding reasons to call me mafia but doesn't push them. What's more important is he's both buddied me pretty hard at points and both before and after this calls me obvious town. Like that's really, really weird.

Talk about this. While I go grab a cigar.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:49 GMT
#1769
On March 05 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:28 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.

You mean like a massive dick enough to try and use PM's to determine someone's alignment. Because that dick would be you. What's really funny about it is that you did it in Artanis' game. Because you and everyone else knows that Artanis always tells mafia what the VT role pm is. Like that's a massive dick play on top of being a really fucking stupid play. That's what up.

Yeah fuck you. I am using every information i am presented to gather reads. If someone posted their role PM in thread as town should i say they are mafia "because it's not fair to think they are town"?

Of course i fucking read what people write in the thread, i "unsportmanshiply" solved the tItanic III game because i fucking knew DP was fakeclaiming and Hopeless was not from the way they presented their claims. So what? Should i have mislynched Hopeless there?

Yes i am 100% sure LightningStrike is town here for his claim and don't you dare to throw shit on me for something i have nothing to do with. There is no way he words his post that way without having time to think as mafia. Period. I know it, you know it, and you are probably salty because you just lost a mislynch because of it. But do not fucking blame me for having a read.

No Rayn, what I'm pissed about it is that you're using it. For a long time we were both staunchly against using any sort of that shit. Like there's a line between cheating and good play. For me that crosses the line. I think he's town and I don't need that read which btw is extra stupid because Artanis tells the mafia team about role pms. It's a matter of standards. And when I knew you and you were town, you would try to never stoop to that shit. Ever. You even got really pissed about shit like that being in the thread because it ruins the integrity of the game. I have not now or ever intentionally cheated. There was even a game recently where I had that exact thought that someone was mafia because of how they claimed to me. I specifically didn't use it and relied on other things to read that person because it was both against the rules of the game and unethical. I don't cheat. Period. I thought you didn't either. That's what really pisses me off here. That's what really got my goat when I accidently pm'd Marv essentially telling him I was town. Not just that it got him removed from the game but also that I didn't even stop to think about how that could affect the game. I didn't think that it tells him that my slot was town. There have been numerous games in Magic where I've called a judge on myself for an illegal deck presentation because I had a sideboard card in during G1 when my opponent never would've know I had the 4th thoughtseize or that mid storm for 20 I somehow drew the Anger of the Gods or Engineered Explosives which I didn't side in the previous match but somehow ended up in the 60 I presented. I called a judge myself last weekend for accidentally scrying 2 off of Drown in Sorrow (it didn't affect teh outcome at all) but that doesn't matter. It's the principle of it. And I'm hurt that you'd even use shit like that because I thought you were one of the other few people here would never do that shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:51 GMT
#1771
On March 05 2015 05:44 Toadesstern wrote:
why did you guys tell ninjas to shoot a townie? whoever pointed that out...

That was Rayn pointing out what Koshi said. Someone else +1'd it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:54 GMT
#1773
On March 05 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:49 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:28 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.

You mean like a massive dick enough to try and use PM's to determine someone's alignment. Because that dick would be you. What's really funny about it is that you did it in Artanis' game. Because you and everyone else knows that Artanis always tells mafia what the VT role pm is. Like that's a massive dick play on top of being a really fucking stupid play. That's what up.

Yeah fuck you. I am using every information i am presented to gather reads. If someone posted their role PM in thread as town should i say they are mafia "because it's not fair to think they are town"?

Of course i fucking read what people write in the thread, i "unsportmanshiply" solved the tItanic III game because i fucking knew DP was fakeclaiming and Hopeless was not from the way they presented their claims. So what? Should i have mislynched Hopeless there?

Yes i am 100% sure LightningStrike is town here for his claim and don't you dare to throw shit on me for something i have nothing to do with. There is no way he words his post that way without having time to think as mafia. Period. I know it, you know it, and you are probably salty because you just lost a mislynch because of it. But do not fucking blame me for having a read.

No Rayn, what I'm pissed about it is that you're using it. For a long time we were both staunchly against using any sort of that shit. Like there's a line between cheating and good play. For me that crosses the line. I think he's town and I don't need that read which btw is extra stupid because Artanis tells the mafia team about role pms. It's a matter of standards. And when I knew you and you were town, you would try to never stoop to that shit. Ever. You even got really pissed about shit like that being in the thread because it ruins the integrity of the game. I have not now or ever intentionally cheated. There was even a game recently where I had that exact thought that someone was mafia because of how they claimed to me. I specifically didn't use it and relied on other things to read that person because it was both against the rules of the game and unethical. I don't cheat. Period. I thought you didn't either. That's what really pisses me off here. That's what really got my goat when I accidently pm'd Marv essentially telling him I was town. Not just that it got him removed from the game but also that I didn't even stop to think about how that could affect the game. I didn't think that it tells him that my slot was town. There have been numerous games in Magic where I've called a judge on myself for an illegal deck presentation because I had a sideboard card in during G1 when my opponent never would've know I had the 4th thoughtseize or that mid storm for 20 I somehow drew the Anger of the Gods or Engineered Explosives which I didn't side in the previous match but somehow ended up in the 60 I presented. I called a judge myself last weekend for accidentally scrying 2 off of Drown in Sorrow (it didn't affect teh outcome at all) but that doesn't matter. It's the principle of it. And I'm hurt that you'd even use shit like that because I thought you were one of the other few people here would never do that shit.

you have modkilled yourself multiple times to prove you are town so stop talking about cheating.

No. I've gotten myself modkilled because I'm a stupid fuck. Never once that I can ever think of have I ever said, hey look. I'm going to get myself modkilled so that people will know I'm town and take the lynch in a different direction. Not once.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 21:00 GMT
#1777
On March 05 2015 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think geript is mafia.

100% mafia or just mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 21:05 GMT
#1778
BTW, I'm shooting Sepulchre and I'm getting a good stiff drink. Probably at the shitty mexican place near my house.
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