I can't do it. Trf having 17-18 pages of filter now? Tere's case was solid, but it could be wrong. Elyas' case is out the window. Trf has looked very town to me in most of this game.

Trf: you are really good at scumhunting. Your play is different from your last scum game. Despite Tere's critiques, I could see you being town. Rso thought you were too, and she forgot about silver too.

Maybe this is me avoiding feeling awful if Trf flips town, but Silver does look pretty awful. They were both in my top four, but I initially read Trf as more town.

Trf you have officially fooled me if you are scum lol

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 19 2015 23:42 GMT

#1262

You need to unvote first.

But thanks for your consideration. I will try to make sure you don't regret it.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 19 2015 23:42 GMT

#1263

OK Tere. If you believe both of your own cases, and believe your town read in me, I ask you to sheep me and vote Silver, since she is scum to you, as well. I feel Silver's flip will give us the most information. And if all 3 of us are town, I would rather have at least 2 of us here tomorrow, assuming one of us dies tonight.

jarjarbinks

569 Posts

February 19 2015 23:44 GMT

#1264

Zfelin your answer:

Town: Shining, Zfelin

Null: Elyas (only because of blue claim), Tere

Scum: Silver over Trf

jarjarbinks

569 Posts

February 19 2015 23:46 GMT

#1265

lol im a mess right now xD

Tere

United Kingdom225 Posts

February 19 2015 23:46 GMT

#1266

I really hate the long filter /= scum meta on this site.

Jarjar, there's a thread showing very clearly that scum can pull off incredibly long filters and discussing town reading due to filter content size not working on the board, discussed very recently. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477857-activity-and-town-play

Look at the content, not the length.

Trfel is lying about having found me saying I love playing mafia on other sites. I've caught him in the lie and have provided proof. He's obvscum. He's just trying to survive.

Tere

United Kingdom225 Posts

February 19 2015 23:46 GMT

#1267

On February 20 2015 08:42 The Shining wrote:
OK Tere. If you believe both of your own cases, and believe your town read in me, I ask you to sheep me and vote Silver, since she is scum to you, as well. I feel Silver's flip will give us the most information. And if all 3 of us are town, I would rather have at least 2 of us here tomorrow, assuming one of us dies tonight.

OK, sure. Can we kill Trfel tomorrow if I do it?

Tere

United Kingdom225 Posts

February 19 2015 23:47 GMT

#1268

I am happy both of them are scum.

I just know I have limited time to play D3 and if I'm not NKed, I want you guys to help me kill him. Deal?

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 19 2015 23:49 GMT

#1269

On February 20 2015 08:46 Tere wrote:
I really hate the long filter /= scum meta on this site.

Jarjar, there's a thread showing very clearly that scum can pull off incredibly long filters and discussing town reading due to filter content size not working on the board, discussed very recently. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477857-activity-and-town-play

Look at the content, not the length.

Trfel is lying about having found me saying I love playing mafia on other sites. I've caught him in the lie and have provided proof. He's obvscum. He's just trying to survive.

Long filter = scum isn't a meta on this site.

If you are 95% confident that the scum team is me and Silverarte, but you are pushing me THIS much, that is making me even more suspicious.

I would be comfortable calling you scum right now, but after I flip, you are going to be very much scumread. So I'm not sure what to make of that. Ironically, were I alive tomorrow, I would push for Tere's lynch, but only after she revealed her plan for clearing her name.

If you look at Tere's filter, it is full of holes. Look at this entire push. It's horrible. Look at my case on her to start with. Look at all of the suspicious circumstances I have posted with regards to Tere's push, it's all in my filter.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

February 19 2015 23:50 GMT

#1270

Tere, why are you so concerned? By your own belief, Silver is also one of the scum, and a scum lynch is a good lynch.
It's not THAT important which one we do first.

Also, people very pointedly noted that on Silver, the issue isn't just filter length, but that the content itself is dreadfully weak.

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 19 2015 23:51 GMT

#1271

On February 20 2015 08:46 Tere wrote:

Show nested quote +

OK, sure. Can we kill Trfel tomorrow if I do it?

There. She realized that she wasn't going to get away with this, and is taking it back.

This just screams scummy.

Tere, keep doing this. You're giving yourself away.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 19 2015 23:51 GMT

#1272

On February 20 2015 08:46 Tere wrote:

Show nested quote +

OK, sure. Can we kill Trfel tomorrow if I do it?

Not what I was hoping for. Figured you'd continue your Trfel push.

But if Silver flips scum, sure. If not, I have an idea that I'll withhold until after EoD, since it doesn't hold together without the Silver flip.

ElyAs

France205 Posts

February 19 2015 23:51 GMT

#1273

10 minutes before EoD, damn.

Tere, sorry but you claimed VT and not Vig ?

Abort mission, lynch Silver.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

February 19 2015 23:51 GMT

#1274

by the way JJB, the name's zlefin, not zfelin.
using caps for clarity: ZLEFIN, not ZFELIN.
I don't mind that much, it's just helpful if people spell it right.

Tere

United Kingdom225 Posts

February 19 2015 23:52 GMT

#1275

Oh, I'm coming

##unvote
##vote Silverarte

You guys need to come with me and kill Trfel tomorrow though, because he is the scummiest scum that ever scummed.

We can kill his henchie first if you want though.

ElyAs

France205 Posts

February 19 2015 23:53 GMT

#1276

My scenario stuff breaks down with this single detail, might be scenario 3.
Might be another thing altogether.

Tere

United Kingdom225 Posts

February 19 2015 23:54 GMT

#1277

On February 20 2015 08:51 ElyAs wrote:
10 minutes before EoD, damn.

Tere, sorry but you claimed VT and not Vig ?

Abort mission, lynch Silver.

Yes, I'm claiming Vanilla Town. One who loves trolling scum.

We can shenannie onto Silver, but you guys are giving me Trfel's head on a platter D3, regardless of whether I am alive or not. Or I will haunt you mercilessly from the deadboard.

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 19 2015 23:54 GMT

#1278

If everyone asks really nicely, maybe I can be persuaded to do some work for town again. In the form of showing why Tere is scum. It would be a fitting revenge for all of the pain she has made me suffer today.

At the moment, I don't have all of the answers. But while mafia!Tere doesn't explain some things, town!Tere doesn't fit this push at all. So I'm pretty sure I can show that Tere is scum if I care to.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 19 2015 23:54 GMT

#1279

On February 20 2015 08:51 ElyAs wrote:
10 minutes before EoD, damn.

Tere, sorry but you claimed VT and not Vig ?

Abort mission, lynch Silver.

Actually really glad you made it. And rescinded the Tere stance over her not claiming vig. So as far as I'm aware, Ely's claim looks better now. Either he is doc, or false claiming and our blue roles have screwed us. The only Doc setup means ONLY Doc or Doc/Vig so if you're something that ISNT VIG, now is the time to out Ely.

jarjarbinks

569 Posts

February 19 2015 23:54 GMT

#1280

lol my bad bro

your point on silver is correct btw. I just lynched LM in my last game for being lurky and it turned out LM was town and we pretty much lost after that. Bad memory I guess. You try to not be biased but then you end up being biased.