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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 04:07 GMT
#101
Rsoultin, you responded to me in a way that seems to be cutting off discussion as opposed to encouraging it. At first I wondered if that might make you slightly more likely to be mafia, but in the end, I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

All I do know is that when people check in on this thread, they need to have something to comment on, or there is no point in them posting. This was a lot of the problem with the last newbie game, there wasn't enough content to actually read people. And Valentine's Day or not, this game hasn't been looking much better.

So yeah, I've drafted all kinds of posts I could make, and nothing seems right. This doesn't seem right either, but at least it's honest.

Point being, if someone is here, please say something and we can at least get a little bit of material to work with.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 04:43 GMT
#102
On February 15 2015 13:07 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, you responded to me in a way that seems to be cutting off discussion as opposed to encouraging it. At first I wondered if that might make you slightly more likely to be mafia, but in the end, I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

All I do know is that when people check in on this thread, they need to have something to comment on, or there is no point in them posting. This was a lot of the problem with the last newbie game, there wasn't enough content to actually read people. And Valentine's Day or not, this game hasn't been looking much better.

So yeah, I've drafted all kinds of posts I could make, and nothing seems right. This doesn't seem right either, but at least it's honest.

Point being, if someone is here, please say something and we can at least get a little bit of material to work with.


Lol, I figured with all the facetiousness (five games, 25%, etc. etc.) you may be attempting to get people talking, but it certainly took you long enough to respond xP

Why not engage with Shining? He addressed you, too.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 04:52 GMT
#103
On February 15 2015 13:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 13:07 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, you responded to me in a way that seems to be cutting off discussion as opposed to encouraging it. At first I wondered if that might make you slightly more likely to be mafia, but in the end, I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

All I do know is that when people check in on this thread, they need to have something to comment on, or there is no point in them posting. This was a lot of the problem with the last newbie game, there wasn't enough content to actually read people. And Valentine's Day or not, this game hasn't been looking much better.

So yeah, I've drafted all kinds of posts I could make, and nothing seems right. This doesn't seem right either, but at least it's honest.

Point being, if someone is here, please say something and we can at least get a little bit of material to work with.


Lol, I figured with all the facetiousness (five games, 25%, etc. etc.) you may be attempting to get people talking, but it certainly took you long enough to respond xP

Why not engage with Shining? He addressed you, too.

The first portion of the post is directed to you. The rest of the post (paragraphs 2 through 4, though I really hesitate to call them paragraphs...) are directed to whoever reads the post, specifically those who read the post in the near future.

I definitely want to get people talking. If the game starts off at an appropriate pace, it will probably stay there. But if it starts off as an extremely low content game, it will probably stay that way. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true, that if the game starts out with too much spam and not enough content, it will probably stay that way. But in the end, I'd rather have a spammy game than a nonexistent one.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 05:11 GMT
#104
On February 15 2015 13:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 13:43 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 13:07 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, you responded to me in a way that seems to be cutting off discussion as opposed to encouraging it. At first I wondered if that might make you slightly more likely to be mafia, but in the end, I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

All I do know is that when people check in on this thread, they need to have something to comment on, or there is no point in them posting. This was a lot of the problem with the last newbie game, there wasn't enough content to actually read people. And Valentine's Day or not, this game hasn't been looking much better.

So yeah, I've drafted all kinds of posts I could make, and nothing seems right. This doesn't seem right either, but at least it's honest.

Point being, if someone is here, please say something and we can at least get a little bit of material to work with.


Lol, I figured with all the facetiousness (five games, 25%, etc. etc.) you may be attempting to get people talking, but it certainly took you long enough to respond xP

Why not engage with Shining? He addressed you, too.

The first portion of the post is directed to you. The rest of the post (paragraphs 2 through 4, though I really hesitate to call them paragraphs...) are directed to whoever reads the post, specifically those who read the post in the near future.

I definitely want to get people talking. If the game starts off at an appropriate pace, it will probably stay there. But if it starts off as an extremely low content game, it will probably stay that way. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true, that if the game starts out with too much spam and not enough content, it will probably stay that way. But in the end, I'd rather have a spammy game than a nonexistent one.


If it doesn't pick up by tomorrow I may just take a page out of BH's playbook and RNG a lynch for the lolz xP What do you think of Shining's reaction to you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 05:26 GMT
#105
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 05:32 GMT
#106
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 05:37 GMT
#107
Also, as a point of curiosity: what sort of reaction were you expecting from that opening? Cheers and shouts to lead us to victory? Hard tunneling? No offense, but there's not a lot to do or read from a post like that, at least imo.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 05:38 GMT
#108
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 05:40 GMT
#109
On February 15 2015 14:37 rsoultin wrote:
Also, as a point of curiosity: what sort of reaction were you expecting from that opening? Cheers and shouts to lead us to victory? Hard tunneling? No offense, but there's not a lot to do or read from a post like that, at least imo.

I agree, it's rather hard to come to any conclusion based on my post. If the best that town has is following me to victory, then I must say, we'd be in a pretty rough spot.

I wouldn't mind hard tunneling at all, though. That would definitely get the game going.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 05:45 GMT
#110
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 05:50 GMT
#111
On February 15 2015 14:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)

That's why I said it probably isn't the best way to read me. I'm sure there are a lot of tone tells that I give that people can pick up on, but of course I don't know them. In this case, your read is correct, so it's quite possible that it has some validity (not that you can be 100% certain of that, of course).

I think that RNG lynch is a poor strategy, when compared to other strategies. It can still be effective, and in the hands of a good player, I'm sure it can be very effective. It definitely has merits. But in a low-content game like this one will almost certainly be, I think it's one of the worse things to try and do.

Would you like me to build a case on myself to give you some ideas?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 05:58 GMT
#112
On February 15 2015 14:50 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)

That's why I said it probably isn't the best way to read me. I'm sure there are a lot of tone tells that I give that people can pick up on, but of course I don't know them. In this case, your read is correct, so it's quite possible that it has some validity (not that you can be 100% certain of that, of course).

I think that RNG lynch is a poor strategy, when compared to other strategies. It can still be effective, and in the hands of a good player, I'm sure it can be very effective. It definitely has merits. But in a low-content game like this one will almost certainly be, I think it's one of the worse things to try and do.

Would you like me to build a case on myself to give you some ideas?


Lol, not particularly? I don't see the point.

All I have is tone on you to put you as a town lean, and everything else is solidly null. If you want to make a case against yourself, that's fine? I guess? But I'd be more impressed with a case you actually believed xP Or, rather, I guess if you're scum you'd believe it just fine, but I think you catch my drift, right?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 06:04 GMT
#113
On February 15 2015 14:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:50 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)

That's why I said it probably isn't the best way to read me. I'm sure there are a lot of tone tells that I give that people can pick up on, but of course I don't know them. In this case, your read is correct, so it's quite possible that it has some validity (not that you can be 100% certain of that, of course).

I think that RNG lynch is a poor strategy, when compared to other strategies. It can still be effective, and in the hands of a good player, I'm sure it can be very effective. It definitely has merits. But in a low-content game like this one will almost certainly be, I think it's one of the worse things to try and do.

Would you like me to build a case on myself to give you some ideas?


Lol, not particularly? I don't see the point.

All I have is tone on you to put you as a town lean, and everything else is solidly null. If you want to make a case against yourself, that's fine? I guess? But I'd be more impressed with a case you actually believed xP Or, rather, I guess if you're scum you'd believe it just fine, but I think you catch my drift, right?

Fine, you're right.

Since I don't see much reason to call you scum at the moment, I guess there's not much more to do then. On the bright side, the game is slightly more interesting than it was earlier.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 15 2015 06:08 GMT
#114
Hey guys.

Trf: Low content game because of it being a newbie game? Or because of valentines day?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 06:09 GMT
#115
On February 15 2015 15:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 14:58 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:50 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
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And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)

That's why I said it probably isn't the best way to read me. I'm sure there are a lot of tone tells that I give that people can pick up on, but of course I don't know them. In this case, your read is correct, so it's quite possible that it has some validity (not that you can be 100% certain of that, of course).

I think that RNG lynch is a poor strategy, when compared to other strategies. It can still be effective, and in the hands of a good player, I'm sure it can be very effective. It definitely has merits. But in a low-content game like this one will almost certainly be, I think it's one of the worse things to try and do.

Would you like me to build a case on myself to give you some ideas?


Lol, not particularly? I don't see the point.

All I have is tone on you to put you as a town lean, and everything else is solidly null. If you want to make a case against yourself, that's fine? I guess? But I'd be more impressed with a case you actually believed xP Or, rather, I guess if you're scum you'd believe it just fine, but I think you catch my drift, right?

Fine, you're right.

Since I don't see much reason to call you scum at the moment, I guess there's not much more to do then. On the bright side, the game is slightly more interesting than it was earlier.


Lol, we've at least given people something to read when they return? I'm also looking forward to JJB playing ^^ I really want to see him play scum to see if my toneread on him holds water as both alignments.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 15 2015 06:10 GMT
#116
Rsoultin: Do you think you could actually RNG lynch someone? I don't think you could lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 15 2015 06:11 GMT
#117
On February 15 2015 15:09 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 15 2015 15:04 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:58 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:50 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 14:26 Trfel wrote:
The Shining's opening posts seem somewhat like yours (rsoultin). Both respond to me, and both seem somewhat skeptical of my opening. I don't like this because it goes absolutely nowhere with starting the discussion.

In particular, The Shining's restatement of my opening post seemed off. Usually, telling the scum to watch out seems to be useless. However, saying that someone needs to back up their words after they say this is even more useless.

But, The Shining definitely has a point. My opening post does lack substance. Outside of some extremely brilliant setup talk (which isn't going to happen given the simple setups for this game), a roleclaim is the only first post of any substance that I can think of. But someone has got to do it. I don't feel that my posts warrant the seemingly displeased attitude that The Shining is showing towards me, but I can't say that it isn't at least somewhat deserved.

So, I don't particularly like the way that The Shining has played so far, but I see no reason why it is any more likely to come from one alignment from the other.
+ Show Spoiler +
And if you are wondering why it took me so many words to say that, that's a good question.


@.@

Null novels from a Truffle are always suspect xP I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and say you're just trying to explain why it's null.

Eh, I didn't find his post terrible? Usually I make similar points with less words and more irony, since your starting post was so blindingly duh xP Is it bad that my main reason for reading you slight town right now was how you seemed to be mocking yourself in your entrance? lol

Yeah, that's probably not the best way to get a read. Note that the self-mockery has not yet stopped.

As for RNGing a lynch, I'm really surprised that you said that. Especially in a low-activity game, RNGing a lynch is even less effective. This is because it loses the purpose of creating discussion from a new push, and because there is less to work with. It's much better to make a case on someone who has posted in the thread, and exaggerate it to seem stronger than it actually is.


Ah, but BH swears by it xP Can't possibly be bad, right? lol

I'm not much of one for exaggeration. I do tend to overplay my certainty on things for persuasion purposes, but I find I convince myself of things too easily and exaggerating points doesn't help.

(The facetiousness in your opening post suggested to me that you were aware of how BS it was and not trying to hide that fact. Yes, it's a tone read, but I don't think it's a terrible one.)

That's why I said it probably isn't the best way to read me. I'm sure there are a lot of tone tells that I give that people can pick up on, but of course I don't know them. In this case, your read is correct, so it's quite possible that it has some validity (not that you can be 100% certain of that, of course).

I think that RNG lynch is a poor strategy, when compared to other strategies. It can still be effective, and in the hands of a good player, I'm sure it can be very effective. It definitely has merits. But in a low-content game like this one will almost certainly be, I think it's one of the worse things to try and do.

Would you like me to build a case on myself to give you some ideas?


Lol, not particularly? I don't see the point.

All I have is tone on you to put you as a town lean, and everything else is solidly null. If you want to make a case against yourself, that's fine? I guess? But I'd be more impressed with a case you actually believed xP Or, rather, I guess if you're scum you'd believe it just fine, but I think you catch my drift, right?

Fine, you're right.

Since I don't see much reason to call you scum at the moment, I guess there's not much more to do then. On the bright side, the game is slightly more interesting than it was earlier.


Lol, we've at least given people something to read when they return? I'm also looking forward to JJB playing ^^ I really want to see him play scum to see if my toneread on him holds water as both alignments.


Psh. You don't know me! lol I'm like super secretive and stuff lol
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 15 2015 06:12 GMT
#118
On February 15 2015 15:08 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hey guys.

Trf: Low content game because of it being a newbie game? Or because of valentines day?

I'm mostly worried about this game because it is a newbie game.

Historically, newbie games tend to be significantly more mafia favored than normal games, and the newbie game Day 1 mafia lynch percentage is lower than random guessing (oh the irony...). I think that this is primarily due to inactivity.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 15 2015 06:13 GMT
#119
On February 15 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote:
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On February 15 2015 15:08 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hey guys.

Trf: Low content game because of it being a newbie game? Or because of valentines day?

I'm mostly worried about this game because it is a newbie game.

Historically, newbie games tend to be significantly more mafia favored than normal games, and the newbie game Day 1 mafia lynch percentage is lower than random guessing (oh the irony...). I think that this is primarily due to inactivity.


I could see that, I think my first game (the newbie one) was only like 50 ish pages while the student one (my second) was like 100. Guessing its due to a lack of confidence?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 15 2015 06:14 GMT
#120
On February 15 2015 15:10 jarjarbinks wrote:
Rsoultin: Do you think you could actually RNG lynch someone? I don't think you could lol


Speak of the devil ^^ Did you have a hot date tonight I don't know about, bro?

Probably not -amused-

I'm sure there's a how-to online somewhere, though >> I could just google it xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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