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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 30 2015 05:34 GMT
#1441
On January 30 2015 14:20 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 14:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 30 2015 14:12 liancourt wrote:
both of you


Just answered.

Can you tell me why you think Onegu is scum? Just filter dived you and couldn't sort it out. You argued why Onegu couldn't be confirmed town, but that is different than saying why he's scum.


Simple POE

town

lian
ve
hts
robi

null

palmar

scum

gb
onegu


People are questioning (aside from you) Palmar and VE. Why do you think VE is town (in your own words) and how is Palmar still null after what he did at EoD last night?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 30 2015 05:37 GMT
#1442
It's 12:30 AM, goodnight see you in the morning
Try TL Mafia!!!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 30 2015 05:38 GMT
#1443
I'm out as well, getting sorted for work.

Good night and good day.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 30 2015 05:56 GMT
#1444
On January 30 2015 14:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 14:20 liancourt wrote:
On January 30 2015 14:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 30 2015 14:12 liancourt wrote:
both of you


Just answered.

Can you tell me why you think Onegu is scum? Just filter dived you and couldn't sort it out. You argued why Onegu couldn't be confirmed town, but that is different than saying why he's scum.


Simple POE

town

lian
ve
hts
robi

null

palmar

scum

gb
onegu


People are questioning (aside from you) Palmar and VE. Why do you think VE is town (in your own words) and how is Palmar still null after what he did at EoD last night?


i agree with most of the things ve has said

iirc the lastg 3 votes ontoad was eden u and onegu.

Palmar was pushing toad all day. Town can be wrong, mafia can intentionally tunnel on town. I need to re evaluate him today. I'm not reading him town nor is he scummy. Fact is 3 ppl followed him with his vote and 1 of them was town. I'll wait until palmar posts before i analyze him.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 30 2015 06:34 GMT
#1445
GB - I expect better from him and I'm just seeing him tunnel on robik, but he voted toad for whatever reason i have no idea. I haven't seen any reads from him and he's just there going at robik who I'm townreading. Moreover, he's bringing in IRL reasons over and over again, I cringe at anyone making excuses, like i've said before, if you're that busy replace out please. It's like we're meant to townread them because they have a good excuse...nope.

Onegu - The little case on ve is an associative read based on the presumption that I'm mafia and that ve bussed and unvoted me. Lets not do associative reads, and your case is based on assumption....make a case that doesn't have an assumption in it. Overall poor case trying to make it look like he's scum hunting with an argument that is a fallacy.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 30 2015 12:12 GMT
#1446
On January 30 2015 15:34 liancourt wrote:
GB - I expect better from him and I'm just seeing him tunnel on robik, but he voted toad for whatever reason i have no idea. I haven't seen any reads from him and he's just there going at robik who I'm townreading. Moreover, he's bringing in IRL reasons over and over again, I cringe at anyone making excuses, like i've said before, if you're that busy replace out please. It's like we're meant to townread them because they have a good excuse...nope.

Onegu - The little case on ve is an associative read based on the presumption that I'm mafia and that ve bussed and unvoted me. Lets not do associative reads, and your case is based on assumption....make a case that doesn't have an assumption in it. Overall poor case trying to make it look like he's scum hunting with an argument that is a fallacy.


I wanted to kill Robik but I saw it wasn't getting traction. After I started town reading palmar over what I know believe is null indicative, and after his determination to kill toad (like I was after holyflare on carol), and knowing I wouldn't be here, I thought I should sheep palmar.

I think palmar looks bad and that he is possibly mafia
I think Robik is mafia
I think onegu could be mafia, I'm not sure
I think lian could be mafia, I'm not sure
I think VE is probably town (his play looks like Avogadro)
I think HTS is probably town (too much effort trying to solve the game)
Am I forgetting someone?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 30 2015 12:13 GMT
#1447
No I'm not.

I want everyone to give reasons why they are reading Robik as town.
If not, give thoughts on him.
I'm adorable.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 30 2015 12:32 GMT
#1448
Day 2 Votecount (Artanis will probably not have some creative name later)

liancourt (2): Onegu, Half the Sky
GlowingBear (1): VisceraEyes
Onegu (0): VisceraEyes

Not voted (4): IAmRobik, GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 30 2015 13:14 GMT
#1449
On January 26 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:
You call me scum and have me on your scum list. Why aren't you voting me? You literally have me atop your scum list.

Especially since your top scum voted you for being a hypocritical POS who is calling HTS scum...I vote HTS and you call me scum. You're not even thinking about the game. You're clearly just throwing around a bunch of names of people who you want to lynch and are noncommittal about any of it.

Get Rekt Mafia Scum


Starts suspecting me because I'm not making associative reads.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 26 2015 12:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, your read on onegu pls

who the fuck is that and has s/he posted since i started playing?


Nope, read the thread and player list please.

Or you can just read my mind note on him, but you'll be spoiled.

I think you're scum, so your "read" on him doesn't matter to me



This is where I started to suspect Robik. His reluctance to read onegu striked me as odd. As I said I had a read on onegu at that time and asked Robik just to give thoughts, he just says I'm scum and he won't read what I wrote. Bizarre. If you have a scumread, you're probably give some thoughts at key posts so you can keep confirming of rediscovering the guy's alignment. But pursuing it is a thing Robik isn't doing.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]



I thought this post was genuine but re reading it its ridiculously fabricated. Why? Because posts made out of anger will never have "revisions" like "this was redacted because I don't want to get modkilled". It's completely fabricated. Even his argument that a game where we're together never moves forward because I scumread him everytime is bullshit. Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU. And I am one of the most prolific players in TL. I know how to generate discussion. Student mafia V had a busy day1. It stopped moving forward after I died.

[b]But the most important argument on Robik is that although he says he is pushing me, he actually isn't trying to solve the fucking game and he isn't trying to discover my alignment. I give reads, he doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't try to see where I'm getting them from.

He isn't trying to convince the thread I'm scum, although he is hard scumreading me. I can't stress this enough. He doesn't search for others alignment, he doesn't gives townreads like he does as town. He just scumreads me without convincing anyone.
The only thing he does is saying I'm scum for bad reasons. Like these in spoilers:

[spoiler]

On January 27 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.

Robik starts posting

GB: Robik is scum because: meta


Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched?



On January 27 2015 02:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vote Palmar with me Robik. Quick, let's hammer him before he gets back.

I like Palmar...not for anything he's said or done, but because he made a string of posts atop the previous page that seemed townie to me. Plus, GB is pretty damn confirmed scum, as well as a bunch of other things that I'll get banned if I say, so like:

[image loading]



On January 27 2015 03:06 IAmRobik wrote:
literally every posts of GBs today that I've read has been "sleep brb"..."showering brb"..."gym brb"..."beach brb" And the ellipses is "robik is mafia cause meta"


On January 27 2015 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Pop quiz time.
Who can name something of relevance that Onegu has done this game?

The answer key is below, please don't peek until you've guessed.
+ Show Spoiler +
Nothing


Actually, would lynch this guy too.

HOLY SHIT. I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY.

So GB and Onegu have both essentially done what Ritoky did in the previous game we played.

GB is making lists with little substance.
I didn't read all of Onegu's posts, but I remember one where he calls me town for being scummy. THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT WORDS THAT RITOKY USED IN THAT GAME IN HIS LIST POST:


Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post


Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
Ok GB is town mafia isn't going to post notes like that.

Toad is being thread mayor town for now.

Robik also most likely town, stupid for scum to come in and drop a huge dump in thread.

Eden no idea I can't read drunk people with a buzz myself.

Liancort mentions me and palmar but not VE. That's fairly suspicious to me.

The chick hasn't posted much worthwhile either, but that face palm was hella funny.

Palmar VE I miss you ok that is all I can think of for now

Goodnight


Bolded are the reads on me. Both of them end up calling me town because they know I'm town but do so after saying that I'm scummy.

Also, GB's post looks mighty similar to Ritoky's, where he forces himself to include/"read" everyone.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
GB's 1st Mindnotes

(disclaimer: this is something new I'm trying to keep track of my thoughts)

1. IAmRobik
+ Show Spoiler +
Argh


2. Onegu
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't like this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=6#102
because it just seems that he just posted to comment on something without having clear intention to discover alignments. Potentially scum.

I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127
because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments.

Again, Onegu just comments with a single "lol" + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#139
. This is bad.


3. GlowingBear
+ Show Spoiler +
Adorable


4. Eden1892
+ Show Spoiler +
Too jokey for like 4 pages long. Could be scum.


5. liancourt
+ Show Spoiler +
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TOAD'S ENTRANCE + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=8#143
. Probably town.


6. Palmar
+ Show Spoiler +
Playing DotA


7. VisceraEyes
+ Show Spoiler +
Cool beard


8. Toadesstern
+ Show Spoiler +

I hated his entrance + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#95
because it's a lot of fluff with him saying that he shouldn't be lynched. Directly scummy because he arguing asking to not be lynched day1. Indirectly townie because "would scum be this obvious?".

But then, he wrote this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#134
which sounded townie to me because (i) he had no reason to townread me for that if he was mafia, he could just go against me, and (ii) he had fair reasons to read me as town (in other words, he is trying to solve alignments by evaluating posts through mafia/town perspectives). Preliminary townpass.


9. Half the Sky
+ Show Spoiler +
I hate this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#98
because Toads entrance was really scummy and giving a townread because someone is having fun can never be a reason to townread someone. Just look at Artanis play at Imperial, completely relaxed, and any Slam's scumgame. Felt like possible mafia not knowing how to interpret an entrance and saying it looks townie because her view is already tainted by her perfect information.

INCONSISTENCY ALERT!!!!
Say everyone but lian is leaning town here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#140
but still haven't tried to figure out lian's alignment by pushing him yet. BUT thinks my entrance is horrible and puts suspicions on me here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#125

Where did those suspicions go? Weird.


Townreads so far:
Toadsteem
liancourt


Possible scums (in order):
Eden
HTS
Onegu


Also interesting that he spoils it. It might be confirmation bias, but I think that he expects no one to read it, which is why he spoils it. Like, who the fuck is actually gonna open 9 spoils. I opened the first one, saw his read on me, laughed to myself and then moved on.


On January 27 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Both Toad and GB are picking on Onegu, the easy lynch. Toad is driving that push...hmmm. GB took him out of context. Hmmm.

yes...onegu is only mafia if GB isn't.



On January 28 2015 01:28 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.


GlowingBear, you realise I'm not the only one scumreading you, right?

Oh wait, is that a scum I see giving up?


Yeah, that is a scum giving up.

Gg well played

Whoop whoop! Throw another notch on my bedpost (i don't keep them for sexual conquest, just for mafia that I've fucked



On January 28 2015 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Were you making them big plays GB with that self-vote? Was that your grandiose plan this whole time? You're a fucking genius!!!!

Oh wait, nope, you're just mafia who got scared about getting banned for playing against win-con.



On January 28 2015 03:31 IAmRobik wrote:
He has LITERALLY claimed mafia. What the fuck are you guys doing?

[/spoiler]

I didn't even mention his epiphany bullshit of me and onegu being mafia together then in there next page of his filter saying that onegu is mafia if I'm not.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 30 2015 13:22 GMT
#1450
REFORMATTED

On January 26 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:
You call me scum and have me on your scum list. Why aren't you voting me? You literally have me atop your scum list.

Especially since your top scum voted you for being a hypocritical POS who is calling HTS scum...I vote HTS and you call me scum. You're not even thinking about the game. You're clearly just throwing around a bunch of names of people who you want to lynch and are noncommittal about any of it.

Get Rekt Mafia Scum


Starts suspecting me because I'm not making associative reads.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 26 2015 12:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, your read on onegu pls

who the fuck is that and has s/he posted since i started playing?


Nope, read the thread and player list please.

Or you can just read my mind note on him, but you'll be spoiled.

I think you're scum, so your "read" on him doesn't matter to me



This is where I started to suspect Robik. His reluctance to read onegu striked me as odd. As I said I had a read on onegu at that time and asked Robik just to give thoughts, he just says I'm scum and he won't read what I wrote. Bizarre. If you have a scumread, you're probably give some thoughts at key posts so you can keep confirming of rediscovering the guy's alignment. But pursuing it is a thing Robik isn't doing.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]



I thought this post was genuine but re reading it its ridiculously fabricated. Why? Because posts made out of anger will never have "revisions" like "this was redacted because I don't want to get modkilled". It's completely fabricated. Even his argument that a game where we're together never moves forward because I scumread him everytime is bullshit. Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU. And I am one of the most prolific players in TL. I know how to generate discussion. Student mafia V had a busy day1. It stopped moving forward after I died.

But the most important argument on Robik is that although he says he is pushing me, he actually isn't trying to solve the fucking game and he isn't trying to discover my alignment. I give reads, he doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't try to see where I'm getting them from.

He isn't trying to convince the thread I'm scum, although he is hard scumreading me. I can't stress this enough. He doesn't search for others alignment, he doesn't gives townreads like he does as town. He just scumreads me without convincing anyone.
The only thing he does is saying I'm scum for bad reasons.
Like these in spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 27 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.

Robik starts posting

GB: Robik is scum because: meta


Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched?



On January 27 2015 02:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vote Palmar with me Robik. Quick, let's hammer him before he gets back.

I like Palmar...not for anything he's said or done, but because he made a string of posts atop the previous page that seemed townie to me. Plus, GB is pretty damn confirmed scum, as well as a bunch of other things that I'll get banned if I say, so like:

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On January 27 2015 03:06 IAmRobik wrote:
literally every posts of GBs today that I've read has been "sleep brb"..."showering brb"..."gym brb"..."beach brb" And the ellipses is "robik is mafia cause meta"


On January 27 2015 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 27 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Pop quiz time.
Who can name something of relevance that Onegu has done this game?

The answer key is below, please don't peek until you've guessed.
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Nothing


Actually, would lynch this guy too.

HOLY SHIT. I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY.

So GB and Onegu have both essentially done what Ritoky did in the previous game we played.

GB is making lists with little substance.
I didn't read all of Onegu's posts, but I remember one where he calls me town for being scummy. THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT WORDS THAT RITOKY USED IN THAT GAME IN HIS LIST POST:


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On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post


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On January 26 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
Ok GB is town mafia isn't going to post notes like that.

Toad is being thread mayor town for now.

Robik also most likely town, stupid for scum to come in and drop a huge dump in thread.

Eden no idea I can't read drunk people with a buzz myself.

Liancort mentions me and palmar but not VE. That's fairly suspicious to me.

The chick hasn't posted much worthwhile either, but that face palm was hella funny.

Palmar VE I miss you ok that is all I can think of for now

Goodnight


Bolded are the reads on me. Both of them end up calling me town because they know I'm town but do so after saying that I'm scummy.

Also, GB's post looks mighty similar to Ritoky's, where he forces himself to include/"read" everyone.

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On January 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
GB's 1st Mindnotes

(disclaimer: this is something new I'm trying to keep track of my thoughts)

1. IAmRobik
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Argh


2. Onegu
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I don't like this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=6#102
because it just seems that he just posted to comment on something without having clear intention to discover alignments. Potentially scum.

I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127
because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments.

Again, Onegu just comments with a single "lol" + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#139
. This is bad.


3. GlowingBear
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Adorable


4. Eden1892
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Too jokey for like 4 pages long. Could be scum.


5. liancourt
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EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TOAD'S ENTRANCE + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=8#143
. Probably town.


6. Palmar
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Playing DotA


7. VisceraEyes
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Cool beard


8. Toadesstern
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I hated his entrance + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#95
because it's a lot of fluff with him saying that he shouldn't be lynched. Directly scummy because he arguing asking to not be lynched day1. Indirectly townie because "would scum be this obvious?".

But then, he wrote this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#134
which sounded townie to me because (i) he had no reason to townread me for that if he was mafia, he could just go against me, and (ii) he had fair reasons to read me as town (in other words, he is trying to solve alignments by evaluating posts through mafia/town perspectives). Preliminary townpass.


9. Half the Sky
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I hate this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#98
because Toads entrance was really scummy and giving a townread because someone is having fun can never be a reason to townread someone. Just look at Artanis play at Imperial, completely relaxed, and any Slam's scumgame. Felt like possible mafia not knowing how to interpret an entrance and saying it looks townie because her view is already tainted by her perfect information.

INCONSISTENCY ALERT!!!!
Say everyone but lian is leaning town here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#140
but still haven't tried to figure out lian's alignment by pushing him yet. BUT thinks my entrance is horrible and puts suspicions on me here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#125

Where did those suspicions go? Weird.


Townreads so far:
Toadsteem
liancourt


Possible scums (in order):
Eden
HTS
Onegu


Also interesting that he spoils it. It might be confirmation bias, but I think that he expects no one to read it, which is why he spoils it. Like, who the fuck is actually gonna open 9 spoils. I opened the first one, saw his read on me, laughed to myself and then moved on.


On January 27 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 27 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Both Toad and GB are picking on Onegu, the easy lynch. Toad is driving that push...hmmm. GB took him out of context. Hmmm.

yes...onegu is only mafia if GB isn't.



On January 28 2015 01:28 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.


GlowingBear, you realise I'm not the only one scumreading you, right?

Oh wait, is that a scum I see giving up?


Yeah, that is a scum giving up.

Gg well played

Whoop whoop! Throw another notch on my bedpost (i don't keep them for sexual conquest, just for mafia that I've fucked



On January 28 2015 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Were you making them big plays GB with that self-vote? Was that your grandiose plan this whole time? You're a fucking genius!!!!

Oh wait, nope, you're just mafia who got scared about getting banned for playing against win-con.



On January 28 2015 03:31 IAmRobik wrote:
He has LITERALLY claimed mafia. What the fuck are you guys doing?



I didn't even mention his epiphany bullshit of me and onegu being mafia together then in there next page of his filter saying that onegu is mafia if I'm not.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
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January 30 2015 15:12 GMT
#1451
Where's everyone?
I'm adorable.
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Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 30 2015 15:15 GMT
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 30 2015 15:17 GMT
#1453
Here's my case on GB, in case you click through his spoilers and think that he actually quoted all my relevant posts about him. He's purposefully excluding shit, just so that he doesn't have to respond.

On January 29 2015 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Let's start with this bullshit read on me. I came into the game and voted for HTS for taking HF's spot. He then asks me a follow up about my thoughts on the game. I clearly wasn't following along and I clearly hadn't (and still haven't) read the beginning of the game before I entered. I then mention that I'm willing to lynch him after HTS. This is all clearly not game related and he starts to push me here for it. If he were paying attention to the game at all or actually reading what I said in context, he wouldn't come to these conclusions as a town:

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On January 26 2015 11:20 GlowingBear wrote:
GB's 2nd Mindnotes


1. IAmRobik
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Robik entered the thread completely disinterested. He didn't try yet to do anything. I thought he could be busy and afk, then I asked a question to also see if he was here. Answer: he is, and he says he isn't reading the thread + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=11#213
. Well, why is he FOLLOWING the thread but not actually READING the thread to try to figure the game out? Leaning scum.



Next, he votes me in a joking matter for calling him a bitch.

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On January 26 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:28 IAmRobik wrote:
GB, you're supposed to vote me bitch


Ooooooh you called me "bitch"
%%Vote: Robik


Only to leave a few meaningless posts later, come back the next day and instantly vote me for not having a long filter. This is problem 1. He had just finished playing a game with me where I had a really short filter d1. I was town. I was busy. Clearly he should realize that it's not alignment indicative of me. And regardless, by the end of that d1 I still have like a 5-6 page filter.

He then continues to mock me with this post:

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On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win


This is the argument of a spiteful lil bitch.

More spiteful bitchery:
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On January 27 2015 00:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 26 2015 23:48 Onegu wrote:
Robik is reminding me of Cora in BttB just shit in the thread and flip town after I tunneled him all game...


And GB how is getting rid of town robik a win!?

Like you say he isn't interested, but he's been around more than palmar, me and VE.

@ palmar what logic? Ru scum? I expect better than that from you.


Because it's Robik. Getting rid of him is always a win


He then starts jumping on HTS for giving a read that GB's vote was spiteful and mine was town trolling. IT WAS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FOR ANYONE INVOLVED THAT MY VOTE ON HTS WAS TROLLING REGARDING THE HF SITUATION. I EVEN WROTE "JE SUIS HF." He has nothing to go on and is really fucking stretching to call me scum here:

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On January 27 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
A question here: why my vote was scummy and Robik's probably town trolling? How can you still say everybody was leaning town when you had suspicions on me? How can you suddenly think I'm mafia for that?
You've played once with me and you are trying to push meta reads. You're analysing last games of mine. Yet you disregard Robik's meta saying that "you haven't played with him yet". Well, you could do what you're doing with me now. Why the double standards?


And subtly trying to push scum on HTS for thinking I'm town as well.


This progression is something he's done all game. It's really fucking scummy. He is openly avoiding situations where he has to give reads on people because he's facing a lot of pressure and doesn't know how to respond on the spot. He possibly is deciding whether or not to go into anti-spew mode or what, but I think a lot of people have already been spewwed with his actions and their actions towards him:

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On January 27 2015 11:05 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm home.


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On January 27 2015 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Never mind I'm too tired to read things, gone sleep.

Someone online wants me to address to something before that?

Again, this is just one example of a multitude of times where he has come into the thread FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF SHOWING THAT HE'S NOT AFKING. Note, this is different from what you do HTS. When you say you're leaving or are going afk or wahtever the case may be, you provide some game relevant information. Notice how this is NOT what GB is doing.

Then there's this post:

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[B]On January 27 2015 21:46 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote

Robik is town. That reaction is genuine.
Calm down, Robik. You take what I say too seriously.


He's finally "come around" to me being town. I think he has 3 votes on him at this point. He has finally succumb to the fact that I am being universally town read and that I am no longer a possible mislynch. He either gave up because of that or because he now has to try to win my favor so that I don't vote him. It's probably the latter given that AS SOON AS PRESSURE IS OFF OF HIM, HE IS BACK ON THE "LYNCH ROBIK" TRAIN.

I will continue this later, but I'm just so fucking mad that I just wasted 20 minutes reading through his posts and explaining the some simple fucking concepts to people who should know fucking better.


Also, his case on me is nonsense. I'll debunk it in my next post
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Profile Joined January 2014
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#1454
On January 30 2015 22:22 GlowingBear wrote:
REFORMATTED

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On January 26 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:
You call me scum and have me on your scum list. Why aren't you voting me? You literally have me atop your scum list.

Especially since your top scum voted you for being a hypocritical POS who is calling HTS scum...I vote HTS and you call me scum. You're not even thinking about the game. You're clearly just throwing around a bunch of names of people who you want to lynch and are noncommittal about any of it.

Get Rekt Mafia Scum


Starts suspecting me because I'm not making associative reads.

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On January 26 2015 12:07 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 26 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, your read on onegu pls

who the fuck is that and has s/he posted since i started playing?


Nope, read the thread and player list please.

Or you can just read my mind note on him, but you'll be spoiled.

I think you're scum, so your "read" on him doesn't matter to me



This is where I started to suspect Robik. His reluctance to read onegu striked me as odd. As I said I had a read on onegu at that time and asked Robik just to give thoughts, he just says I'm scum and he won't read what I wrote. Bizarre. If you have a scumread, you're probably give some thoughts at key posts so you can keep confirming of rediscovering the guy's alignment. But pursuing it is a thing Robik isn't doing.

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On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]



I thought this post was genuine but re reading it its ridiculously fabricated. Why? Because posts made out of anger will never have "revisions" like "this was redacted because I don't want to get modkilled". It's completely fabricated. Even his argument that a game where we're together never moves forward because I scumread him everytime is bullshit. Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU. And I am one of the most prolific players in TL. I know how to generate discussion. Student mafia V had a busy day1. It stopped moving forward after I died.

But the most important argument on Robik is that although he says he is pushing me, he actually isn't trying to solve the fucking game and he isn't trying to discover my alignment. I give reads, he doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't try to see where I'm getting them from.

He isn't trying to convince the thread I'm scum, although he is hard scumreading me. I can't stress this enough. He doesn't search for others alignment, he doesn't gives townreads like he does as town. He just scumreads me without convincing anyone.
The only thing he does is saying I'm scum for bad reasons.
Like these in spoilers:

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On January 27 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.

Robik starts posting

GB: Robik is scum because: meta


Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched?



On January 27 2015 02:35 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 27 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vote Palmar with me Robik. Quick, let's hammer him before he gets back.

I like Palmar...not for anything he's said or done, but because he made a string of posts atop the previous page that seemed townie to me. Plus, GB is pretty damn confirmed scum, as well as a bunch of other things that I'll get banned if I say, so like:

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On January 27 2015 03:06 IAmRobik wrote:
literally every posts of GBs today that I've read has been "sleep brb"..."showering brb"..."gym brb"..."beach brb" And the ellipses is "robik is mafia cause meta"


On January 27 2015 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 27 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Pop quiz time.
Who can name something of relevance that Onegu has done this game?

The answer key is below, please don't peek until you've guessed.
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Nothing


Actually, would lynch this guy too.

HOLY SHIT. I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY.

So GB and Onegu have both essentially done what Ritoky did in the previous game we played.

GB is making lists with little substance.
I didn't read all of Onegu's posts, but I remember one where he calls me town for being scummy. THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT WORDS THAT RITOKY USED IN THAT GAME IN HIS LIST POST:


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On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post


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On January 26 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
Ok GB is town mafia isn't going to post notes like that.

Toad is being thread mayor town for now.

Robik also most likely town, stupid for scum to come in and drop a huge dump in thread.

Eden no idea I can't read drunk people with a buzz myself.

Liancort mentions me and palmar but not VE. That's fairly suspicious to me.

The chick hasn't posted much worthwhile either, but that face palm was hella funny.

Palmar VE I miss you ok that is all I can think of for now

Goodnight


Bolded are the reads on me. Both of them end up calling me town because they know I'm town but do so after saying that I'm scummy.

Also, GB's post looks mighty similar to Ritoky's, where he forces himself to include/"read" everyone.

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On January 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
GB's 1st Mindnotes

(disclaimer: this is something new I'm trying to keep track of my thoughts)

1. IAmRobik
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Argh


2. Onegu
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I don't like this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=6#102
because it just seems that he just posted to comment on something without having clear intention to discover alignments. Potentially scum.

I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127
because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments.

Again, Onegu just comments with a single "lol" + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#139
. This is bad.


3. GlowingBear
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Adorable


4. Eden1892
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Too jokey for like 4 pages long. Could be scum.


5. liancourt
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EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TOAD'S ENTRANCE + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=8#143
. Probably town.


6. Palmar
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Playing DotA


7. VisceraEyes
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Cool beard


8. Toadesstern
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I hated his entrance + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#95
because it's a lot of fluff with him saying that he shouldn't be lynched. Directly scummy because he arguing asking to not be lynched day1. Indirectly townie because "would scum be this obvious?".

But then, he wrote this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#134
which sounded townie to me because (i) he had no reason to townread me for that if he was mafia, he could just go against me, and (ii) he had fair reasons to read me as town (in other words, he is trying to solve alignments by evaluating posts through mafia/town perspectives). Preliminary townpass.


9. Half the Sky
+ Show Spoiler +
I hate this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#98
because Toads entrance was really scummy and giving a townread because someone is having fun can never be a reason to townread someone. Just look at Artanis play at Imperial, completely relaxed, and any Slam's scumgame. Felt like possible mafia not knowing how to interpret an entrance and saying it looks townie because her view is already tainted by her perfect information.

INCONSISTENCY ALERT!!!!
Say everyone but lian is leaning town here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#140
but still haven't tried to figure out lian's alignment by pushing him yet. BUT thinks my entrance is horrible and puts suspicions on me here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#125

Where did those suspicions go? Weird.


Townreads so far:
Toadsteem
liancourt


Possible scums (in order):
Eden
HTS
Onegu


Also interesting that he spoils it. It might be confirmation bias, but I think that he expects no one to read it, which is why he spoils it. Like, who the fuck is actually gonna open 9 spoils. I opened the first one, saw his read on me, laughed to myself and then moved on.


On January 27 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Both Toad and GB are picking on Onegu, the easy lynch. Toad is driving that push...hmmm. GB took him out of context. Hmmm.

yes...onegu is only mafia if GB isn't.



On January 28 2015 01:28 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.


GlowingBear, you realise I'm not the only one scumreading you, right?

Oh wait, is that a scum I see giving up?


Yeah, that is a scum giving up.

Gg well played

Whoop whoop! Throw another notch on my bedpost (i don't keep them for sexual conquest, just for mafia that I've fucked



On January 28 2015 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Were you making them big plays GB with that self-vote? Was that your grandiose plan this whole time? You're a fucking genius!!!!

Oh wait, nope, you're just mafia who got scared about getting banned for playing against win-con.



On January 28 2015 03:31 IAmRobik wrote:
He has LITERALLY claimed mafia. What the fuck are you guys doing?



I didn't even mention his epiphany bullshit of me and onegu being mafia together then in there next page of his filter saying that onegu is mafia if I'm not.



Point 1) Yeah, I expect someone who has a scum read on player A to think about the fact that if player A is mafia then player B is probably not mafia with that person. You didn't even bother to mention it.

Point 2) You "suspect" me because I didn't give a read on Onegu. I didn't give a read on a lot of people. I hadn't read the thread and onegu hadn't really posted around the time that I was around and posting. You can try to say I'm scum for not reading the 6 or so pages that occurred since day start when I entered thread, but even you know that would be quite the stretch to try to incriminate a player like me because of that

Point 3) How am I not trying to figure out people's alignment. I actually have been trying to discern people's alignment. I have given my town reads and I have explained them. Just because you're scum in my eyes and because I haven't "reevaluated" you because you keep doing the same mafia bullshit of tunneling me to no end under false pretenses doesn't mean I'm not trying to solve the game

Point 4) I had written out a bunch of fucking shit about how much I despise you as a person and actually went back and deleted it out of respect for the mod and the game. It certainly wasn't because I have any respect for you.

Point 5) More bullshit about me not trying to solve the game or not pushing my reads or convincing people that you're scum. The problem with this is that you include a bunch of irrelevant quotes that aren't full of substance but fail to include the major one which had me going into great length as to why I think you're mafia. Convenient for your fabricated case, huh? I'm also doing better of convincing people that you're mafia than you are of convincing other people of the incredulous notion that I'm mafia. And lastly, you still fail to say anything about Palmar being scum, even though his case on Toad was 45 posts of "KILL TOAD." You're being hypocritical and non-objective. If you were town you would actually think about the game and stop saying dumb shit that's fucking wrong.

I rest my case your honors.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 30 2015 15:35 GMT
#1455
Yeah maybe I'll flip on Robik today. Maybe today is the day I flip on Robik.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 30 2015 15:36 GMT
#1456
+ Show Spoiler +
<3 Robik
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 30 2015 15:36 GMT
#1457
On January 31 2015 00:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah maybe I'll flip on Robik today. Maybe today is the day I flip on Robik.

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 30 2015 15:41 GMT
#1458
Raise your hand if you think it's possible that Robik and GB are mafia together.

##Raise: Hand
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 30 2015 15:43 GMT
#1459
Like one tries to bus the other and the other gets pissed and it turns into a mutual death tunnel.

It's all in my sig there, just look it up. There's precedent.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 30 2015 15:44 GMT
#1460
I was the cop, and you tried to lynch me. You spent the majority of the last day I was alive sucking off DP who thought I was fake.
On January 30 2015 22:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU.



On January 30 2015 22:14 GlowingBear wrote:And I am one of the most prolific players in TL.


I literally peed myself a little when I read this.
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