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On January 27 2015 12:42 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:01 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:
let's vote liancout, he never had a vote on him
##vote liancourt Lian is in Korea AFAIK. I'd say give another 4h. If he doesn't do jack all, then I think a pressure vote is appropriate then. how do you know where i live??? Are you the stalker that's been stalking me online???????????????????
Why are you ignoring my posts?
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Seriously I know there are a few Americans in this game, why am I stuck in what feels like an echo chamber
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On January 27 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
Announcement: I am considering releasing the first read I have this game tonight. Stay tuned!
i'll actually take him off the lynchpool if he indeed did post a read in the later pages.
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Holy shit stop catching up and answer my question. You'll probably ignore it when you get to it too
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Swear to god I will make this thread unreadable by quoting myself one hundred times if he responds to something after the timestamp on my question
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On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing.
very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that.
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Eden that was uncalled for
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liancourt for the love of christ stop doing catchup posts like this. just catch up in one giant post. good god
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On January 27 2015 12:54 Onegu wrote:
Eden that was uncalled for
It was. I'm mad. This guy needs to quit ignoring my damn posts.
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On January 27 2015 12:53 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing. very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that.
Jeezus this is the scummiest post in the thread. Then convince me, and why wait. Palmar needs to play or ded.
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On January 27 2015 04:21 Half the Sky wrote:
In the Void game which we both recently played (disclaimer: that game is still in progress, but both of us have been eliminated from it...so my discussion on that is somewhat limited intentionally) Lian said the same thing about playing a certain meta and was lynched D1 for doing jack all, effectively policy lynched so I believe that's why he "switched metas" again this go.
But what has been consistent across all metas I've seen is the lockdown on a singular target. And his confidence about it.
Why you know so much about me? You are the stalker aren't you?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Thank you for calling it confidence. Some other ppl call it the S word...bad ppl
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Oh my fucking god why are you not replying to anything happening right now. Holy shit.
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On January 27 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh my fucking god why are you not replying to anything happening right now. Holy shit.
Lol, chill don't get yourself mod killed.
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On January 27 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh my fucking god why are you not replying to anything happening right now. Holy shit.
Lol, chill don't get yourself mod killed.
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On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point.
i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled.
i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall.
On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia
On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
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On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
Ok yeah I'm happy to kill this guy with fire now... Why the hell are you talking about that?!
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On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
There is no way this guy is town, this post says absolutely nothing worthwhile.
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On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
I will probably policy d1 you in every single game we ever play together until you learn that this is a terrible way to play the game.
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Like you just acknowledged that you, like any other human being, succumb at times to confirmation bias, and then you say "and therefore that's why I ignore posts from people I suspect," as though it's going to help you overcome confirmation bias. Holy shit.
Is this actually happening? I'm not having some absurdist nightmare, right? Because if I'm dreaming of TL that's a whole different problem and I refuse to believe an actual honest to god thinking human being can sincerely think this makes sense in his head
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What's really pissing me off is that there's no way liancourt is mafia and this stupidly aggravating. Thinking this through rationally I can't honestly say he's mafia. I want to lynch him anyway and god fucking forbid if we get to MYLO/LYLO and he's still in here with me. I wish I were a dayvig so I could shoot him and move on. Yeah I'm fucking mad.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Onegu
For not realizing the above about liancourt without the anger johns to justify it
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