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On January 27 2015 14:30 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:25 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 14:17 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 12:57 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 12:53 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing. very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that. Jeezus this is the scummiest post in the thread. Then convince me, and why wait. Palmar needs to play or ded. Here you go lian my scum read on you. First was just a pressure vote, but now here is my reason care to enlighten town why this post is scummy? Sure because you come in here check random things post something that has no revalance and basicly omgus Eden with no back up, but then want a policy lynch. You then follow up this post with another post that is completely irrelevant, and no bearing on this game. Then I call you out on it and you switch your tune.
If you check FFL and FFL 2 I did this stuff. Nothing new. GB and robik will know this.
A policy lynch is a backup lynch really. And i've said in my previous post that my lynchpool was eden > palmar.
It's now onegu > eden > palmar
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whatever i'm ignoring everything he posts forever
confirmed VI in my mind
when i'm not incredibly fucking mad i'll maybe try to string something coherent together about onegu, suffice to say though that i didn't like onegu's reaction to liancourt and i didn't remember him having any original contributions to the thread that i liked before his reaction to liancourt
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but honest to god please never play with me again. this is infuriating beyond belief. i'm kind of ashamed of myself for getting so mad
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On January 27 2015 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:23 liancourt wrote:
@eden
Didn't I say I was co mod for imperial and you played a great d1 in that game. IMO you aren't playing like that in this game. I'm comparing your town to this game. And you aren't playing like town.
In new years where u were scum the game state was much different and the thread itself was stale most of the time. Comparing filter sizes seems irrelevant. The game state currently is much more active in this game thus naturally has more posts. I don't think the argument of comparing filter sizes is valid in your defense.
I welcome the change in perspective eden. Why do you think onegu is scum? I think he's scum because he just sheeped you after coming into the thread. He doesn't really have any original reads. He posted a list post of well townies and nulls. I have no idea on his meta so if someone can enlighten me that'd be great. my d1 was trash my n1 was ok why don't you actually read my posts and stop tunneling like a donkey? you are playing so antitown right now by continuing to antagonize me for no reason
##unvote
I'm not antagonizing you I'm saying give me reasons on why you think onegu is scum.
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Eden how are you not seeing this, if you have meta together why would antagonize you like this as town, it's only a scum strat to piss you off so much...
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Am I the only one seeing this?! I need another drink!
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On January 27 2015 14:43 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 14:23 liancourt wrote:
@eden
Didn't I say I was co mod for imperial and you played a great d1 in that game. IMO you aren't playing like that in this game. I'm comparing your town to this game. And you aren't playing like town.
In new years where u were scum the game state was much different and the thread itself was stale most of the time. Comparing filter sizes seems irrelevant. The game state currently is much more active in this game thus naturally has more posts. I don't think the argument of comparing filter sizes is valid in your defense.
I welcome the change in perspective eden. Why do you think onegu is scum? I think he's scum because he just sheeped you after coming into the thread. He doesn't really have any original reads. He posted a list post of well townies and nulls. I have no idea on his meta so if someone can enlighten me that'd be great. my d1 was trash my n1 was ok why don't you actually read my posts and stop tunneling like a donkey? you are playing so antitown right now by continuing to antagonize me for no reason ##unvoteI'm not antagonizing you I'm saying give me reasons on why you think onegu is scum.
i gave the summary. you'd get more concrete reasons if you didn't piss me off to the point where i can't think clearly by intentionally ignoring me
and don't even pretend you weren't antagonizing me, you outright said you were ignoring my attempts to work with you
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On January 27 2015 14:44 Onegu wrote:
Eden how are you not seeing this, if you have meta together why would antagonize you like this as town, it's only a scum strat to piss you off so much...
because outside of being petty and ignoring me i'm not convinced he was trying to
and i don't think his purpose in ignoring me was to piss me off so much as it was a probably-amusing-for-him byproduct
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On January 27 2015 14:45 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:43 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 14:23 liancourt wrote:
@eden
Didn't I say I was co mod for imperial and you played a great d1 in that game. IMO you aren't playing like that in this game. I'm comparing your town to this game. And you aren't playing like town.
In new years where u were scum the game state was much different and the thread itself was stale most of the time. Comparing filter sizes seems irrelevant. The game state currently is much more active in this game thus naturally has more posts. I don't think the argument of comparing filter sizes is valid in your defense.
I welcome the change in perspective eden. Why do you think onegu is scum? I think he's scum because he just sheeped you after coming into the thread. He doesn't really have any original reads. He posted a list post of well townies and nulls. I have no idea on his meta so if someone can enlighten me that'd be great. my d1 was trash my n1 was ok why don't you actually read my posts and stop tunneling like a donkey? you are playing so antitown right now by continuing to antagonize me for no reason ##unvoteI'm not antagonizing you I'm saying give me reasons on why you think onegu is scum. i gave the summary. you'd get more concrete reasons if you didn't piss me off to the point where i can't think clearly by intentionally ignoring me and don't even pretend you weren't antagonizing me, you outright said you were ignoring my attempts to work with you
when did you say you were trying to work with me? You were posting reasons on why I was scum all the time.
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On January 27 2015 11:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Someone save me from this tunnel if I'm wrong but this guy doubled down on a bad read with even more terrible reasoning than before and didn't even have the courtesy to answer some simple questions that might give me an opportunity to reconsider just lynching him for making no sense. You can ask people who played Imperial if you don't know this, but I'm pretty reasonable with people I suspect and I make it a point to give them a fair outing. If liancourt isn't gonna play ball then fuck him
##VOTE: liancourt
ignoring my questions is choosing not to work with me. if you actually read any of the game you gm'd then you would know this
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this is what's so infuriating. you have an alleged scum read on me due to "meta," but it's obvious from your posts that you aren't even looking at the game YOU HOSTED where i was town. you never considered it when you gave your "meta" read on me, your reaction to my attempts to question you was exactly the wrong response that anyone should take away from my play in that town game.
just what are you doing??
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Sanity please. Good morning.
Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work.
I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms.
This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why:
On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad
I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.
How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero.
This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter.
I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile.
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nope, i don't care right now. too mad to bother.
someone else show up in the thread and do something. hell, liancourt, do something. you have onegu as top scum, why not go after him yourself?
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Onegu's reaction seems indifferent at best. I don't know if he is naturally stoic or what, but I'm not seeing a sense of critical thinking, aside from mostly reactionary posts.
That to me is a red flag.
I'll have to look into this more.
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On January 27 2015 14:54 Eden1892 wrote:
this is what's so infuriating. you have an alleged scum read on me due to "meta," but it's obvious from your posts that you aren't even looking at the game YOU HOSTED where i was town. you never considered it when you gave your "meta" read on me, your reaction to my attempts to question you was exactly the wrong response that anyone should take away from my play in that town game.
just what are you doing??
like what are you trying to do with this post? Calling me scum? Defending yourself?
I'm scum hunting. I thought we were going to discuss onegu. Why are you still on this?
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but not about toad. just about tr'ing liancourt
toad could still possibly be mafia i guess but idt it's worth exploring d1. let's get onegu instead ya?
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I see comments from both Lian and Onegu regarding Robik being town because of the moderator warning.
Folks, moderator actions are irrelevant to someone's alignment. I have seen scum players get warned, my scum teammate from Newbie LX was warned himself, and a second teammate of mine was replaced and given a ban. Do not assume someone's alignment just because of a moderator's action.
Just my input there.
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