[M][N]Hammertime Mafia - Page 31

On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.

Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.

I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.

My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"

I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error.

I'm gonna go reread but off the top of my head, I have the impression that Toad was town for a particular sequence of decisions: (1) intro post kickstarting discussion into (2) repeated attempts to question/probe other players for their positions while (3) demanding more scrutiny onto himself from other players. Mafia can emulate (1) just fine and regularly do (which is why I just called him a chill dude instead of something alignment-indicative), mafia have a harder time with (2) and especially with (3) - (2) because they struggle to get into a townie mindset and ask questions that make sense / are going somewhere (although it's not a huge struggle, it still requires effort, which is a harder threshold to achieve than you'd think), and (3) because they don't know whether or not they're actually being suspicious/not doing enough to be townread, and so daring people not to townread them so hard/so quickly can come off as tone-deaf with regard to how much a townie should suspect someone and backfire badly. (Imagine the sequence: "Why don't you suspect me?" "Why should I?" "...shouldn't you?" It would clearly indicate a guilty conscience on the part of the first speaker, which wouldn't automatically exist with a townie. Naturally it would never be that obvious, but you get the idea behind it.)

None of this is to say that he strictly speaking couldn't do any of what he's done as mafia, but that I think it would be far more likely for him to do it as town. So he's town.

I also feel like GlowingBear was townie but I don't remember why. Maybe I'll know when I reread.

Robik is suspicious to me because I feel like he's not really been very genuine with his posts. I'll reread to see if I'm right about this, but I remember his post about why he voted for HTS, and his post against GB, and both of them seemed illegit. The HTS thing was probably a joke so eh, but he says "get rekt mafia scum" or whatever when arguing for a kill on GB and it's just like... no one says this. Not even Robik says this. C'mon man.

I forgot Onegu even posted so we could kill him too. Palmar as well until he posts

On January 14 2015 07:51 Eden1892 wrote:

I'll do it instead since SL apparently isn't in an explaining mood.

If lalalipop is mafia then the d2 wagons were mafia/mafia. Oatsmaster only went on a late tiebreaker -- Breshke switching off of lalalipop onto a 3rd party. If Breshke and lalalipop are partners, Breshke probably isn't on lalalipop in the first place and he's definitely not switching to a 3rd party and hoping for no vote switches; he's moving onto Oatsmaster to ensure his teammate gets saved or, alternatively, he's not moving to get that bus cred.

So Breshke's vote move makes no sense if lalalipop is mafia, ergo lalalipop is town

On January 27 2015 11:13 liancourt wrote:


The part where you HARD defend toad kinda looks familiar to a certain game I played with you...



HARD defending your partner lala.

There is literally no reason for town to HARD defend another town this detailed. Not sure if toad is his partner yet, but I'll keep my eyes open. Town should be scum hunting not hard defending other players. Everyone who has ever played mafia knows it's less stressful to call someone town than to call someone mafia. And eden here is doing the same thing calling me scum because I caught him and he is OMGUSing me like he did in new years.

On January 26 2015 10:05 Eden1892 wrote:
liancourt is aggressively null. He's my kill right now, because I'm actually a bureaucrat tasked with the charge of increasing Toad Town's literacy rate at all costs, and I fear he may be illiterate.

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

On January 27 2015 11:46 liancourt wrote:


I played that meta last game in void. Got me killed d1. I'd policy lynch you too if you don't do anything. Koshi's words.

On January 27 2015 10:28 Half the Sky wrote:


How is the above (bolded) alignment indicative?

On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

On October 26 2014 15:28 IAmRobik wrote:
There's my flip. Good luck town. These mods are literally the worst things in any game ever. Gb has been shit talking me all game and that fucking piece of shit didn't even get warned most likely. Like fuck that. I literally don't give a fuck. I'm not getting mod killed this game for playing the game.

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Please clarify how you suspected me based on me having a similar playstyle to my previous game when my filter was 4 pgs long by the time you voted me and my filter didn't hit p4 until day3 of the game you're citing

On January 27 2015 02:37 IAmRobik wrote:

WTF are you doing? You literally just said you think Palmar is town and now you're grilling him. Palmar will play the game when he wants to play the game and if he doesn't want to play the game then he'll sub or we'll lynch him

On January 22 2015 05:52 Koshi wrote:

I now lynch people I know will be though to read later over people that will be readable. Because I don't lynch enough scum D1.

On January 27 2015 04:01 Half the Sky wrote:


Lian is in Korea AFAIK. I'd say give another 4h. If he doesn't do jack all, then I think a pressure vote is appropriate then.