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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 26 2015 23:45 GMT
#581
On January 27 2015 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:38 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:35 Half the Sky wrote:
FFS Palmar where is this substantial post you have promised us earlier today?

Where did I promise a substantial post?


Not those words per se, but something of interest to driving discussion in the game.

On January 27 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
Announcement: I am considering releasing the first read I have this game tonight. Stay tuned!


Unless it was that damned troll vote on Toad.

No VE is probably town.

/facepalm
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 26 2015 23:48 GMT
#582
On January 27 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts.

I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck

About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now...
I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time.

That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone.


the more I think about that one point, the more I like it actually. It is clearly showing mafia agenda, more so than any other case done so far, including my own reads that are all based on how people are interacting here because d1 is usually really hard to get some mafia agenda when noone has flipped yet.

I'd be voting him if I didn't want to make sure we get more time right now. There's still the lingering fear that he's bad and the easy mislynch but it makes me feel way better about this.



Why are you only on me for this?

On January 26 2015 10:50 liancourt wrote:
i'd read gb town for the analysis not because he went against popular views which imo is really an odd reason to say someone is townie.



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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 26 2015 23:50 GMT
#583
Crap moment I quoted the wrong thing
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 26 2015 23:56 GMT
#584
Never mind I can't find it. I thought someone said I was scum for only saying effort on GB, but then didn't say anything about liancourt.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 00:03 GMT
#585
I took a closer look at VE just to make sure I'm not overlooking anything.

His posts are showing a townie feel through page 1 of his filter.

I cannot comment on the meta posts regarding Palmar as I have not played with either of them. I personally don't like Palmar's trolling, but I don't know how he should be interacting with VE.

That said, VE clearly has a reason for scumreading him as he has been pushing Palmar for 3 pages of his filter, so that should be indicative of a more prolonged town push. Whether it's accurate or not is another issue.

I like this post from VE not so much because he has the same scumread as I do, but because he's calling out an inconsistency in his target's behaviour.

On January 27 2015 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still relatively fine with a GB lynch. I still don't like his "mind dumps" and he warned us he'd be doing them all game and now that he's been called out on it they've stopped. Like, it all just stinks of trying to APPEAR to be doing things.


I see VE is annoyed with Toad's comments on Palmar but I have interpreted those as him disputing the read, saying he's just reading too much into things.

Overall generally a good impression on VE.

VE, I am curious to see whether your reads on GB, Eden have changed or even Liancourt at this point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 27 2015 00:34 GMT
#586
I'll update my reads in a bit.

##Unvote

Spoiler alert: I still think Palmar is mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 00:42 GMT
#587
Another harder look at Robik,

Mostly trolling until page 3 of his filter. I'm also going to say leaning town on him as well. I like how he tries to tackle Palmar's trolling and I especially liked this post from him going through point by point his reservation on GB.

On January 27 2015 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.

His case on me is that I wasn't posting thus I'm mafia. I started posting. He continues to say I'm mafia for meta reasons, even though I've since broken that meta. Thus he's just making shit up and doesn't have any actual thoughts on analysis. Especially since all he does is talk about me. Additionally, he has made 4 posts today that amount to "i'm going afk be back later," which I find inherently scummy.

first sentence: He is bad
second+third sentence: well... that's him being bad because he told you about it if he really thinks that way
He shouldn't have done that. We'll have to see what he posts in the next couple hours.
fourth+ sentence: he has only made 4 posts ever since (trusting you on this) so it's obvious there's not a lot of actualy thoughts on analysis.

how is "I'm going afk be back later" something inherently scummy?
HTS has said something along those lines multiple times. I don't see you all over her (pun might be intended)
I actually do that a lot as well depending on my mood, as all three alignments.

See the thing is -- the first sentence is probably valid, but a townie recognizes that my posting has changed since he made that statement and he hasn't adjusted his read, which is scummy, not "bad". Well bad too. Plus, he just played a game with me where I was the cop and didn't play d1 because of New Years and became way more active after that and he tried to meta read me as mafia based off of me playing similarly to how i played as the cop, but i couldn't be the cop since there are no roles thus i have to be mafia. DAFUQ KINDA READ IS THAT. Especially since I was town and ended up with a 30+ page filter anyway, 3rd highest in the game, having lived 2 days shorter than total game time.


My only reservation is that he should be providing more of his reads (like say on VE, Onegu, etc) but otherwise, he seems okay. Leaning town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 27 2015 00:45 GMT
#588
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 00:45 GMT
#589
So where I stand:

Town: Toad, with leans on VE, Robik, and at this point Eden. Not lynching any of these four today.

Null: Onegu

Null leaning scum: Liancourt

Scum: GlowingBear (preferred lynch), Palmar
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 00:46 GMT
#590
On January 27 2015 09:45 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still


I am. Top lynch preference.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2015 00:46 GMT
#591
Untouchable Votecount

GlowingBear (2): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes
IAmRobik (1): GlowingBear, Palmar
Eden1892 (1): liancourt
Toadesstern (1): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes
liancourt (1): Toadesstern, Onegu

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 27 2015 00:47 GMT
#592
On January 27 2015 09:45 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still

Yeah it's amazing how easy it is for me to townread you when you don't claim mafia and fuck around the first half of D1.

Also pretty sure I townread you for the entirety of last game, whether correct or not.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 27 2015 00:49 GMT
#593
Er...yeah, not Imperial. The one before it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 01:00 GMT
#594
did palmar or onegu give any original reads that made sense yet?

i think this is the bullshit heuristic i'm going to use for d1. shouts to my fave student who i told never to do this that one time~
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 01:05 GMT
#595
question also goes to liancourt but for now I care more about those 2
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 27 2015 01:13 GMT
#596
On January 27 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote:
did palmar or onegu give any original reads that made sense yet?

i think this is the bullshit heuristic i'm going to use for d1. shouts to my fave student who i told never to do this that one time~



All my reads make sense sorry you don't understand.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 01:26 GMT
#597
Almost 1:30am...alright, last few thoughts...before I pass out soon.

Still null on Onegu. His list post was one-liners admittedly, would like to see more from him, but he could be a low-content player so I'm not sure where to judge that.

If GB flips scum, I'd say it's unlikely that Onegu would be scum as he was grossly misrepresented, and highly unlikely in this setup that he would be bussed. I don't like associative reads, but it's something to consider on my end given my scumread on GB.

Speaking of GB, he hasn't returned to thread yet since my last followup.

Liancourt, I would like to see resolve the issues previously cited, I hope it gets done when I'm asleep.

Palmar's lack of reads, even amidst the trolling, is getting more annoying by the second.
We're on page 30 Palmar, get with the program please.

But yes, GlowingBear is my top lynch, and if he is offed when I wake up, I am fairly confident I'll wake up to one less scum in this game.

Good night everyone <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 01:28 GMT
#598
On January 27 2015 09:45 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still


How is the above (bolded) alignment indicative?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 01:31 GMT
#599
On January 27 2015 10:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote:
did palmar or onegu give any original reads that made sense yet?

i think this is the bullshit heuristic i'm going to use for d1. shouts to my fave student who i told never to do this that one time~



All my reads make sense sorry you don't understand.

original is the keyword, ese
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 01:32 GMT
#600
On January 27 2015 10:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 09:45 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still


How is the above (bolded) alignment indicative?

presumably the idea is that VE could be mafia, with the additional information about Robik's alignment implied as the cause of him being able to townread Robik so easily
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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