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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 07:05 GMT
#297
Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 07:08 GMT
#298
On January 20 2015 15:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward

"lets vote on marv"

yeh "lets vote on marv trololol"

"why do you think im voting on marv"

"here is why you are voting on marv"

"hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv"

I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything.

On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun



On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud.


yeh


I agree with this, and I don't think Dam actually voted marv even tho he said so.

Now finding the part where KSc is supposed to mirepresent somebody.


Oh and this post. I mean the second part is what I agree with. I like your way of thinking. Tell me where ur supposed to misrepresent somebody. Cba to look for it with this fever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 07:50 GMT
#301
On January 20 2015 16:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 16:08 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 15:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward

"lets vote on marv"

yeh "lets vote on marv trololol"

"why do you think im voting on marv"

"here is why you are voting on marv"

"hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv"

I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything.

On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun



On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



On January 20 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud.


yeh


I agree with this, and I don't think Dam actually voted marv even tho he said so.

Now finding the part where KSc is supposed to mirepresent somebody.


Oh and this post. I mean the second part is what I agree with. I like your way of thinking. Tell me where ur supposed to misrepresent somebody. Cba to look for it with this fever.


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:15 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun


I like this reason.

Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling.
But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens.


Does not compute. You either like damd's point or you agree with kelsier and don't like damd's point.


It does compute cause at the time Damdred wrote that I agreed but Kelsier pointed out a good different interpretion.

So either Kelsier is tring to attack Dam for that post as mafia, or Damdred as mafia with marv wrote that post to get a reason for townreading him like Kelsier suggested.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 07:53 GMT
#302
On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 16:05 Vivax wrote:
Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats?

How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all?

I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason.

I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it.


Dude I just lost a game to marv in Empire cause I couldn't see Dam and Artanis being his scumbuddies.

Marv is for me a D1 policy lynch. 90 % scum winrate. Or he is so posty and insightful and actually lynches a mafia that I feel confident in townreading him the later days.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 09:50 GMT
#312
On January 20 2015 18:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 17:50 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:53 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:05 Vivax wrote:
Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats?

How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all?

I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason.

I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it.


Dude I just lost a game to marv in Empire cause I couldn't see Dam and Artanis being his scumbuddies.

Marv is for me a D1 policy lynch. 90 % scum winrate. Or he is so posty and insightful and actually lynches a mafia that I feel confident in townreading him the later days.

So you basically dont want to play with marv then?

##vote Vivax


is not wanting to play with marv alignment indicative?

I mean my ass still hurts from last game

Vivax is avoiding actually playing the game.
You know, scum hunting and all that.


Dude yesterda Iahd 39° degree fever and was delirating.
Today I just came back from the dctorog giving me paraetamol and glucose infusions and freeing me from further lesssons (today I'd have had a suturing course, sigh)

I started the marv wagon as policy lynch and as you see it was a great way to get information on Damdred and kelsier.

I don't like the way you're handling all this Oats. You're just looking like you want to start a mislynch on me.

Btw gonna take a nap soon cause I was already falling into sleep when the DR was giving me infusions.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 09:51 GMT
#313
Before the nap though I'm gonna do a quick reread and post interesting bits.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 09:55 GMT
#314
Oh and currently thinking mafia is marv/Oats and one of Kelsier or Damdred.

Kelsier cause he suddenly started going after VA when there should be bigger fish tofry atm (marv/Dam/Oats). VA is a guy who in his standard trolls games so starting to attempt reading him looks like a deflection.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 10:37 GMT
#321
On January 20 2015 03:57 sicklucker wrote:
I think we should call today push on marv day. Im in

Pros - If hes mafia he will concede
Cons - None


On January 20 2015 04:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun


Hes just as likely to be mafia as anyone in this game...

and hes like the only one im sure that will give up as mafia day 1 and will be useful as town. I played with marv in two games both as mafia.

Game 1 town got marv to concede
game 2 town ignored marv and he won da game.

Lets not ignore marv



Townreading SL for this ( I think I confused him with JAT while I was delirating yesterday

____________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 02:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
sup im here most of the day which is weird, have my first monday off in quite some time.

I think everyone should write a sentence about how much they enjoyed Artanis' flavor and those who can't procure an emotional reaction from me are probably mafia because they are too rigid from anxiety to create a beautiful memoir.



On January 20 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote:
yeh it was good


Mental note for the point where Kelsier asks people to look at Vayne
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On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots


On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleeeepppppppp

horrific bad reason by damdred.


For some reason Oats skips the whole marv wagon push thing and calls Damdred's reason bullshit before peacing out.

_________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Plus lian posted popcorn before game start and then didnt post.


Marv or lian today. Ojbections?


2 1/2 hours later, right


On January 20 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote:
voted oats, do the same and gg

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleeeepppppppp

horrific bad reason by damdred.


shuts down not really bad reason, doesn't explain why it's bad at all and fucks off to sleep

much like the last mafia game I played with him where he just shuts down anything and says it's bad and goes afk again


I thought lian posted popcorn just before game start, HF corrected this and points out what Oats did. Tentative townread on HF from this

______________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
So Damdred agrees but doesn't vote marv, Vayne writes something completely unrelated to what's going on, and JAt joines the bro club


Plus lian posted popcorn and then didnt post.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Plus lian posted popcorn before game start and then didnt post.


Marv or lian today. Ojbections?



why not vayne btw? and jat isn't even in this game?


Not sure why HF isn't inclined to push marv here to figure him out quickly. I couldn't care less abot what Vayne wrote and his Artanis story. But marv and Vayne both asked us to read Artanis story while the marv push thingy was going on.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote:
I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone.

HF makes me happy with that oats post.



Damdred agrees on Oats post looking bad for the reason and for the fact that HF defends with him it.

______________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Hum too early hf but I respect your oats mafia read


More townie points.

On January 20 2015 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Hum too early hf but I respect your oats mafia read


it's absolutely not too early, you should jump on this wagon with me


Why is HF ignoring marv still? Why focus on the VA bullshit so much?
______________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
Never to early, and what oats did is pretty crappy in retrospect.


On January 20 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
Never to early, and what oats did is pretty crappy in retrospect.


why didn't you comment on it being crappy earlier? especially when he calls you out specifically?


Good point here. Damdred only agrees with HF's arguments when they give him a chance to start a wagon on Oats.

____________________________________________________________________________________________--

On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward

"lets vote on marv"

yeh "lets vote on marv trololol"

"why do you think im voting on marv"

"here is why you are voting on marv"

"hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv"

I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun



Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



Another good point by Kelsier. HE's moving closer to the townpile, but still gotta read why he started asking about Vayne when we only have to find 3 scum anyway.

____________________________________________________________________________________________

On January 20 2015 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think it's bad and I don't see a town read in those quotes - want to know about the oats thing though


Holyflare here ignores that Kelsier posted the theory from Kelsier that Damdred was looking for reasons to townread marv. Then he points back to the Oats issue, still not caring if marv is scum or not.
______________________________________________________________________________________________

Posting this part of the game analysis now and will go further soon. But I think town will win this game easily.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 10:40 GMT
#322
On January 20 2015 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
So am I a policy lynch or mafia, Vivax?


First a policy lynch, now evaluating what happened in the game to determine if you're mafia.

For example while we were pushing the trololo wagon on you, you tried to get people to read Artanis story. So you don't look particiularly good.

On January 20 2015 19:24 liancourt wrote:
At least we know vivax is town


Correct and you go into the townpile.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 10:43 GMT
#324
Confirmed townies so far:

Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 10:46 GMT
#325
Adding HTS to the town pile as well.
What did she do to make you vote her, marv?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:15 GMT
#333
On January 20 2015 06:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward

"lets vote on marv"

yeh "lets vote on marv trololol"

"why do you think im voting on marv"

"here is why you are voting on marv"

"hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv"

I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything.

On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun



On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



This isn't a very genuine post.

You paraphrased their early convo pretty poorly ("trololol" really?). And saying damdred is happy to townread marv as soon as marv starts doing anything is kind of reaching. That's not the impression I got when I was reading damdred's posts.

@damdred who's early vote was better vivax, yours, or hf?


This last question from KSC hasn't been asnwered by Damdred when I read his filter. Damdred gets scumpoints.
Additionall, after writing all of this Damdred sheeps HF in his Oats vote, so currently leaning towards marv/HF/Damdred after reading this exchange.

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On January 20 2015 06:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Greetings everyone!

Reading through, I've not played a game with Marv so I'm not familiar as to how he plays as scum. I find it interesting though that when the pressure votes are on, he posts a few things on Artanis' story. (Why?)

HF, on VA, I agree with you as to why he is looking bad. However, last game with Vayne, I voted him for being completely useless not helping us solve the game and Batsnacks told me that his D1 meta is basically dicking around and not caring. He was lynched and flipped town.


i'm confused as to what you think on VA then, you think he is leaning town or mafia?


This is interesting cause later this happens:

On January 20 2015 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 08:58 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2015 08:57 liancourt wrote:
The votes on marv and oats are hilarious

i expect them to move to sl


Why are they hilarious? Are you saying that oats didn't do exactly what he was doing in carol? Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia?

##Vote: Half the Sky


HF is pushing Oats, Damdred joined HF on Oats after saying. HF says:
Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia?
.

Now we observe two things:

Marv glosses over the fact that HF calls him mafia. Still, HF votes Oats. And marv sheeps the guy who's calling him mafia for the HTS reasons.

Oats earlier said:

On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots


On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleeeepppppppp

horrific bad reason by damdred.


So, HF calls marv mafia and marv sheeps HF without asking him why he's supposed to be mafia, Damdred sheeps HF after HF gives him a reason to vote Oats and get off of marv. And marv doesn't care if HF calls him scum, he just sheeps him.

Thus, the scum team is MARV, DAMDRED, HF
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:19 GMT
#337
On January 20 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Plus lian posted popcorn before game start and then didnt post.


Marv or lian today. Ojbections?


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 19:43 Vivax wrote:
Confirmed townies so far:

Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt


reason - lian townread you...

please explain




Kelsier ignore that for a moment and just trust into me being town. Read all my analysis, and you will conclude I just fucking nailed the scumteam.

I'll answer it anyway:
On January 20 2015 19:24 liancourt wrote:
At least we know vivax is town


And that I thought he was mafia for posting popcorn and then not playing when I didn't consider tha he posted 2 h before game start.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:21 GMT
#338
Now awaiting reactions to my proposed scumteam while I can finally take a nap.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:24 GMT
#340
On January 20 2015 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think I'm "probably mafia", Holyflare?


This is all we've seen from marv since that post where HF called him mafia.
No way theye guys aren't scum together.

But now that I uncovered them, marv is going full out on lynching me cause that's his only chance to survive this day.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:32 GMT
#354
On January 20 2015 20:22 KelsierSC wrote:
viv just a few things wrong with the analysis.

why is HF scum, if dam sheeps him and marv sheeps him?

why is marv mafia for scum reading/voting the same guy as hf?

just because hf reads marv as mafia ( I thiought hf was undecided on marv) I didn't see marv reading hf as mafia anywhere.





1.Cause marv didn't immediately notice HF was calling him mafia, and instead focused on his HTS case that would allow him to get a bad scumread to look like he's doing something. HTS is town.
If they weren't scumbuddies, marv would insted immediately ask HF why he thinks HF is mafia instead of sheeping that bade case.

2.why is marv mafia for scum reading/voting the same guy as hf.
Cause if marv is town and HF scum and calls marv mafia, the first thing he will do is to immediate ask why he's supposed to be mafia, and not sheep the HTS case.

3. The only thing marv asked to HF in this game was this :

On January 20 2015 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think I'm "probably mafia", Holyflare?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:35 GMT
#359
Kelsier please spend as much time as I do analysing these connections and you will come to the same conclusions:

    Damdred finding a reason to townread marv, then sheeping HF on Oats.
    HF scumreading marv, but pushing Oats
    Marv not being suspicious of HF, just asking him if he thinks he's probably mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:37 GMT
#361
HTS,Vayne, Lian, Kelsier, Oats, SL, Coyote and Alakaslam (?) Probably all town.

Read my analyses, my exchanges, my conclusions, and look at how Damdred Marv and HF will try to deal with the pressure, and if we lynch one of them today, we win the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:47 GMT
#364
Here's the quote from HF where he scumreads marv


Why are they hilarious? Are you saying that oats didn't do exactly what he was doing in carol? Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia?


Will have to reevaluate later if KElsier is scum instead of HF cause right now he's trying to work against me a lot.

On January 20 2015 20:37 KelsierSC wrote:
also if you have dam as scum, why does it make HF scummy if dam sheeps him?


Cause HF gave marv a reason to to vote HTS (while HF was scumreading marv), while Dam immediately took the opportunity to sheep HF to get off of marv.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22261 Posts
January 20 2015 11:50 GMT
#366
I don't care, i'm taking a break, and I want the confirmed townies HTS,Vayne, Lian, Oats, SL, Coyote and Alakaslam (?) to sheep me on marv when they get back. Either marv or Damdred.
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