PYP: Pick Your Protoss Mini Mafia

On January 23 2015 06:30 Superbia wrote:
How acceptable is publicly discussing the numbers you send in for drafting btw?

On January 24 2015 21:43 mderg wrote:
rng told me 3,3

On January 24 2015 22:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
so 1, 1 is looking like a good pick

On January 25 2015 02:09 The Milkman wrote:
That was quite an ambiguous situation.
Anyway, you know the drill, every time we either go for some big crazy plan or just let the draft flow and from that we try to read what we can. There is a lot to read moment we get a single red hanging - but - that's future.
If somebody has not yet read the setup-unique rules I really advise you to do so. We are going to be running some sweet, sweet WIFOM joint during this game. What I am talking about? The KP rules. On that note
Is anything known about Mafia KP? Does it have 100% chance to hit anybody or the rule of KP having a reduced chance of hitting based on armor stands?
Do types of armor have any significance besides actions being related to them?

Now, because I have some time I'm going to go through the roles and figure what is what and what I don't want to land as a combination for the scum team.

On January 25 2015 02:25 Superbia wrote:
Yo Palmar, want to be town together?

On January 25 2015 06:39 mderg wrote:

I didn't actually pick 3,3. It was just what rng told me but I don't trust rng

On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though

On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

On January 25 2015 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
I need a good marv-role for low down the order. Someone do that thinking for me

On January 25 2015 20:59 Onegu wrote:
And you need to pick the warp prism palmar it's the most op thing here for scum as it gives them dt and ht.

On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

On January 25 2015 21:09 Onegu wrote:



Ok, but then I did realize it was on your list.

On January 25 2015 21:10 mderg wrote:

I'd prefer you picking Warp Prism and Obi picking dt. That's like the most scum favored roles out right at the start.

On January 25 2015 21:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I picked a cool town role yay

On January 25 2015 21:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well the plan is that i picked already

On January 25 2015 21:17 Onegu wrote:


Like carrier, then at least I have armor and massive at least.

On January 25 2015 21:22 Onegu wrote:



Again warp has to be denied and checked n1. Then I would say dt is a better pick then carrier as it make them immune to checks and kp. And with 3-4 alignment checkers...

On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

On January 25 2015 21:41 mderg wrote:

It's incredible how town you are.

On January 25 2015 21:42 Onegu wrote:



Yeah I'm good,with this. I'll just claim day 1 what I chose and if I got it or not.

On January 25 2015 23:53 The Milkman wrote:
I go bowling and this happens, Palmar firing up some additional engines to mass post. At least they are meaningful.
I disagree that VR and Colossus are Town roles. Colossus has no power over who is his second shot, VR packs too strong of a punch. I'd put VR at best on neutral ground, but Colossus with double shot + coward + massive is just no bueno.

It's weird that you haven't understood Warp Prism Palmar, what is more worrying is you (then) ignoring my role analysis. It is true I did not create plans, but at that time draft wasn't public and then I am not one of sandroba's or syllogism's kin to do things like that. I don't think Sentry is that 'Mafia', I think it's 2 Armor aura could be used to great extent. Although rightly so somebody can just stick to the RB and shout obscenities. Anyway, I want Palmar to get WP, Obi picking Colossus on 3rd would be imho a waste if he is Town, which he kind-of-seems-like, because of the carelessness of his behaviour, but I'll have to think a little more about that, having quite hectic days.
Anyway, I am down on the list so I'll probably get a Probe, but that's fine with me. I think my icon is still a Probe.

On January 25 2015 23:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I kinda realized the DT is useless outside of stopping alignment checks but I was in the mindset to deny anything that can't be checked.

At this point it seems like a waste because I managed to get so high on the draft list but idrk.

On January 26 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote:


Okay...so I get that it can't be, what's the word, easily faked. Kinda. Assuming that you don't have 2 kp available in scum and they hit people side-by-side for the wifom and lols watching town flip shit over it, (I haven't double-checked to be certain there are no other roles with splash effect type kp, but I seem to remember reading that in there somewhere). The next question is how useful is a vigi shot to town that isn't targeted?

You're assuming town gets lucky enough to have a scummy next to a scum where getting rid of both actually is a good play. I mean, it happens, but I dunnae how likely that is.

On January 26 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
Not gonna lie, apart from seeing that there are certain roles that are obviously made for town and certain ones obviously made for scum, I'm a little lost. I chose my role awhile back.

We're not thinking of massclaiming, are we? I don't actually think that would be the worst idea, especially if you wanted to maximize roles that help town narrow down scum and not end up with too many probes.

On January 25 2015 21:38 Palmar wrote:

tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp.

The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.

On January 25 2015 21:09 Palmar wrote:
The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.

If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).

The goal here is to CONTROL KP.

The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.

On January 26 2015 17:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said that but with less words.
AM I TOWN PALMAR??!?

On January 26 2015 18:09 The Milkman wrote:
I was the one putting the plan forward Palmar, I was first. I was talking about the roles. I was saying which ones should be picked or not. I landed on 9th, I said to myself that I won't probably get a strong town role and I might as well pick something that is hard to kill during the night and if not (this is something that you omit! 2 armor and massive give great night survivability, for which Mafia does not need to care!) , I gain important information that in the eight of people above me this role sits.
I'll say that again: I was first to acknowledge that Carrier is Mafia role, I was first to acknowledge that Warp Prism is the most Mafia role. I don't care about what read people had on me before the pick. I could've not claimed and I would not be lynched. Why would I claim then? I knew what I was undertaking. I honestly thought Carrier would be gone. I just wanted to know where it landed approximately, of course.
I won't send interceptors. Moment somebody claims you lynch me, confirm me as Town and lynch the liar. It doesn't take a big brain to know that I should send them as fast as possible! But what if I am part of Mafia and I claimed Carrier, but some other guy actually has it? Well, nobody said that they gunned for Carrier in higher positions and I am full of shit, so I guess Carrier was not much of an importance to the Mafia team and supposing Onegu is Town, HT was neither. I honestly have no idea how these two roles might have landed in Town hands, especially at the spots I and Onegu are.

Palmar, did you go for WP as planned?
Obi, did you go for Colossus as planned?

On January 26 2015 18:39 The Milkman wrote:
Also I thought you were against a KP rampage my dear citizen.

On January 26 2015 18:38 The Milkman wrote:

Okay. I have an even better plan if you really want me dead. Onegu storms me. He can do that right now. We confirm him being a HT and we get rid of me and potentially SL/Oats that I am also suspicious of. Just don't cry over the spilt milk, citizen.

On January 26 2015 18:47 The Milkman wrote:
Are we really with an SK here? Jesus.
I am not a moron. You are for suggesting that. Would you really STILL uphold your claim that I am Mafia because I wanted to check whether Carrier is in game, because I wanted night protection and I could spite IdrA with my useful skill toi have if I were the last guy in the draft? Like Chezinu got a CPR Doc once off an unthinkable position, but I ain't a CPR Doc citizen.
If I did not claim you would not lynch me, so think why would I claim. All I got is some bullshit on my ass while I could send interceptors and laugh my ass off with people running in circles screaming that they are going to die.

On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

i sound nothing like mafia.

Nah its not reasonable.
Mafia marv plays the game.
this marv apparently doesnt.

On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

how about no?
Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1?

On January 26 2015 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:

Ok, i didnt really mean interesting, I meant ANY POSTS AT ALL.

CAUSE HE HAS NOT POSTED JACK SHIT PALMAR.

Scum marv is like scum palmar. He wants to win.

This is not definitively scum marv at all.
Its nothing marv.

On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

how about no?
Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1?

On January 26 2015 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

thats not chainsaw defending.
Chainsaw defending is calling you scum palmar.

Anyway, im super sure man.

I dont think you realise just how many games ive played with marv.

On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though

On January 27 2015 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
when marv flips town we lynch super k.

On January 27 2015 01:34 Superbia wrote:
Palmar if we haven't hit anyone by d3, you're up for the lynch. You okay with that?

On January 27 2015 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:
How do you know

On January 27 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
KILL THEM ALL KILL THEM ALL! ok im into this game now sorry palmer

On January 27 2015 19:37 sicklucker wrote:
Palmer you act like your some kind of god for calling marv mafia when hes claiming mafia

On January 27 2015 21:06 The Milkman wrote:

Drinking just to storm me is an interesting way about it, that's for sure. I can't really tell, I mean the 40% chance is not really certain and not really that uncommon... That's a lot of gambling here. The only thing that is worrying really is that he is storming someone who is told to storm, not someone he wanted to storm out of himself.

On January 28 2015 00:45 Superbia wrote:
Are you sure cmd's RNG is truly random? If it's the same as the standard rand() function in windows it won't be seeded with the current time, hence it'll always give the same series of numbers.

On January 28 2015 00:47 Superbia wrote:


Really? That's fair enough then. Has that been changed in recent windows versions or something?

On January 28 2015 01:40 Superbia wrote:
I kind of want Colossus to kill oats and onegu.

On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:


Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman.

On January 28 2015 02:14 rsoultin wrote:


I'm brilliant that way

Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol

On January 28 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:


Eh, you were talking about it, I remember that much. I don't really have the time to double-check the thread against my memory though cause have to shower and go into work.

I guess I'll just go with marv. Seems least damaging.

On January 28 2015 02:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar, can you tell me why I am really suspicious of you right now? How that could make sense?

I will if you can't, if you can you can probably do away with some of the suspicion.

On January 25 2015 08:45 Palmar wrote:

mafia

On January 26 2015 23:49 Palmar wrote:


I initially called marv scum for this post. It's a super weak tone read. This sort of "I'm not going to work with you guys to show I'm independent, but I'm still not gonna be a complete asshole about it". Like it's the in between of "fuck you guys, Imma do my own thing" and "here's our plan and how we make it work".

like the point about it partially conflicting with someone has nothing to do with the game at hand and there is no need to even mention it.

On January 28 2015 09:42 sicklucker wrote:
Lol ff trys to kill me in everygame regardless of my actions

On January 28 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
OMGUS I think going on here sicklucker. How is anyone confirmed town to town right now?

On January 28 2015 10:38 IAmRobik wrote:

First one to call out marv and made comments that I wouldn't make as maf/maf with him
it's really cute that you claim i'm not -- it's really cute

On January 28 2015 22:21 rsoultin wrote:


Bad reason xP

Where do you stand on your reads, Palmar?

On January 28 2015 22:37 rsoultin wrote:


Lol, not really an answer there, Palmar.

@SL, yeah, I know. But that doesn't make Palmar's reason less bad. He just didn't like what I said, and what I said was not alignment-indicative. I will accept a response of: that mofo was inactive as fuck Day 1. That would be a good reason.

On January 29 2015 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am going to wall in.

Dont bother wasting KP.

On January 29 2015 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:

What's your obsession with killing town!robik?

On January 29 2015 01:07 IAmRobik wrote:

read my posts. My filter is pretty small. Read what I wrote about marv. You think we're maf/maf?

On January 29 2015 01:39 IAmRobik wrote:

Well it's comforting to know that you don't think I'm mafia

On January 29 2015 08:02 Onegu wrote:
Don't forget to check palmar, if scum he has to make a HT for kills because he gets checked tonight.