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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2015 16:18 GMT
#23
/in

I will be picking reaver.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2015 12:40 GMT
#45
Clearly the weak amongst us prefer the known and normal over the unknown and mysterious
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 20 2015 23:29 GMT
#48
I haven't read the rules either but aren't all pyp games the same?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 22 2015 10:58 GMT
#55
robik you can just sign up tbh. (I missed your pm, sorry).

PYP is real simple. It's literally that (pick your power). Game starts with host using some method to organize the player into a draft order, and after that we literally draft the roles we want to play.

It's easy enough to just sign up and start playing. No need to read ops.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 22 2015 22:58 GMT
#63
On January 23 2015 06:30 Superbia wrote:
How acceptable is publicly discussing the numbers you send in for drafting btw?

This shit is half the game.

I usually afk through that part, but people coming up with plans to try to break the setup is what you tend to do.

These games tend to be fairly town-favored-ish.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 22 2015 22:59 GMT
#64
And yeah, I'm EU and 1am is sort of fine for me. 5-8pm is basically family time and I'm rarely around at these hours.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 10:25 GMT
#95
Morning.

I'm picking 1, 1
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 10:26 GMT
#96
If anyone picks 1, 1 too, he's claiming mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 11:47 GMT
#101
yeah I literally have no clue what's going on.

The game _should_ be started, as the guy in charge is accepting numbers for the queue thing, but he didn't formally announce it. I am going to assume the game has started until told otherwise.

I haven't actually read the roles, do we want to do any of the "assign slots roles" thing?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 12:51 GMT
#107
On January 24 2015 21:43 mderg wrote:
rng told me 3,3

sounds like mafia numbers.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 17:12 GMT
#120
On January 24 2015 22:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
so 1, 1 is looking like a good pick

I will do everything I can to kill you if I do. I don't care what your alignment is.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 17:13 GMT
#121
On January 25 2015 02:09 The Milkman wrote:
That was quite an ambiguous situation.
Anyway, you know the drill, every time we either go for some big crazy plan or just let the draft flow and from that we try to read what we can. There is a lot to read moment we get a single red hanging - but - that's future.
If somebody has not yet read the setup-unique rules I really advise you to do so. We are going to be running some sweet, sweet WIFOM joint during this game. What I am talking about? The KP rules. On that note
Is anything known about Mafia KP? Does it have 100% chance to hit anybody or the rule of KP having a reduced chance of hitting based on armor stands?
Do types of armor have any significance besides actions being related to them?


Now, because I have some time I'm going to go through the roles and figure what is what and what I don't want to land as a combination for the scum team.

Scummiest post in the thread btw.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 18:12 GMT
#128
On January 25 2015 02:25 Superbia wrote:
Yo Palmar, want to be town together?

Sure, if you join me in a holy crusade against anyone who picks [1][1]
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 22:35 GMT
#173
On January 25 2015 06:39 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 04:27 Onegu wrote:
We have

Palmar 1,1
Oats and superbia 2,1 (the edited post was him saying he was claiming 2,1)
Mderg 3'3
Me at 5,13
Robik at 6,9

I didn't actually pick 3,3. It was just what rng told me but I don't trust rng

you can't back out of your mafia numbers now...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2015 23:45 GMT
#177
On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though

mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 09:56 GMT
#226
why on earth did I sign up for this, this game is a RNG fest, I'm reading the roles.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:21 GMT
#228
It's amazing that I have to be the one that tries to come up with a strategy. You all suck and mafia will 100% win this game.

I'm reading the roles and here is what I have so far.

Mothership can be picked by town. As the mothership is not a high priority target for mafia to hit, the PGO part is fairly useless. The doc part on the other hand is strong. This means that anyone who picks mothership and doesn't claim day 1 is always going to be mafia.

zealot/stalker is essentially the same role. I think it's a bad role for town, but I think the zealot may be less bad because of transparency.

Dark templar pick = mafia. We're policy lynching/shooting anyone who at any point claims the Dark Templar. Seriously, picking probe is better for town than that mf.

High templar pick = mafia. Way too much random uncontrolled KP in a setup that can literally end on day 2 or something dumb because town shoots each other.

Sentry is just a roleblocker. I don't think we should allow this role to be picked.

Archon is a great pick for both factions. I might pick it, or we might try to find someone really townie to pick it for us in the top player list. Please start being townie guys.

Observer is quite strong, although I think his delayed check is just pointless. Another role I might pick. Observer is probably going in the top 3-ish, so whoever is mothership should absolutely claim and then protect the obs.

I like the immortal. Strong role that has potential to protect other players from KP.

Colossus is probably a good vigi role. This is a role that needs to be 100% controlled by town. We have to make the colossus shoot whoever we want it to shoot. Basically because I don't think the colossus can be roleblocked, he should claim day 1 or night 1 and announce his targets and allow town to discuss them. Basically lynches are generally better for town than vigi shots, so if you allow other people input into where in the player list you shoot, the chance of success increases. I might actually just pick this role so we know where it is.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:28 GMT
#229
oh phoenix is another cop. We need to get that one in good hands, and the oracle is one too, although the oracle is the most mafia favored one (only one check which is easy to "fake" and they get a shot).

Void ray is just yet another vigi it seems like. It's good for town as it doesn't allow shots until n2.

Tempest is a good bait target. ie we should pick it and claim it. He's sorta hard to kill and gives the observer and phoenix a free night of checks it seems?

Carrier = mafia role. Multi-shot vigi that can be set up to go off? The shots are set up before information is available? It's a terrible role for town just like DT. Picking it = scumclaim.

Tempest = doc that's hard to kill. This is the doc that doesn't have to day 1 claim (the core should always day 1 claim because of the PGO part that can be activated).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:29 GMT
#230
I don't understand the warp prism so I just ignored it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:32 GMT
#231
The OP specifies that attacks on warping targets have a 60% chance to hit. Does the same hold true for doc saves, checks and roleblocks?

Nevertheless I think anyone doing an unauthorized warp-in should be considered mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:34 GMT
#232
I wish I had like 2 town reads to act as "checkers"

Basically it's a good idea to force people to pick something, and then have a check on some of the mafia roles. So if we make a townread in slot maybe.. 8? pick DT or Carrier or HT or any other clear mafia role, they can then immediately claim as the day starts and tell us if they got the role, or if they became probes which means someone in front of them is mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:35 GMT
#233
It's good talking to you guys.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:39 GMT
#234
Okay so to make it more clear:

Good town roles:

Core (only with a day 1 claim)
Archon
Obs
Immortal
Colossus
Phoenix
Void Ray
Tempest (only with a day 1 claim)
Mothership

That's 9 roles and there are 13 players. I'm trying to figure out if we should really allow any other roles. Warp prism messes with the colossus shot, the zealot and stalker are both massive wildcards (mafia taking them can both shoot people, and mess with checks/town kp) Carrier/DT/HT are clear mafia roles.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:40 GMT
#235
oh I forgot the oracle.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:46 GMT
#236
The day 1 strategy SHOULD be this:

Core and Tempest claim.

We then proceed to day 1 scumhunting and lynching as normal.

During the night the following should happen:

Colossus shoots 2 people with the help of town. Void ray charges his lazer. Archon, immortal, and the motherships do whatever they please.

Obs
tempest (has claimed)
oracle
phoenix

All make checks. Hell, we could even claim all these 4 roles because it will take mafia a long time to kill off all the check roles (that's assuming they're all controlled by town of course )

Actually yes, we force all the checking roles to claim this means that by day 2 we have the following info:

3 checks (assuming mafia kills one, and doesn't get owned by the mothership docs)
1 lynch
2 people killed by town
1 people killed by mafia

+ whatever shenanigans the mafia pulls.

This is clearly a MUCH better strategy than "everyone does his own thing".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:52 GMT
#237
I just read Milkman's role analysis, seems we sorta disagree on some things.

In other news, I have a townread now, it's Obi.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:53 GMT
#238
sorta weak but him insisting he should pick the DT and immediately claim it, along with the reasons he gave for doing so (I'm easy to read!!!) feel sort of town.

It just seems not very mafia like to immediately saying "hey look, imma do something controversial, and something that means people will look extra hard at me, to help town".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 11:30 GMT
#243
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 11:31 GMT
#244
If anyone ever warps I'm policy lynching the fuck out of that guy
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:04 GMT
#249
On January 25 2015 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
I need a good marv-role for low down the order. Someone do that thinking for me

probe.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:05 GMT
#250
On January 25 2015 20:59 Onegu wrote:
And you need to pick the warp prism palmar it's the most op thing here for scum as it gives them dt and ht.

Maybe we make obi pick that?

If I'm right he's town that makes sure superbia isn't doing shenanigans.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:06 GMT
#252
On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 20:30 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

My list was a list of roles that aren't 100% anti town.

If you pick dt/ht/carrier, and to a lesser extent sentry/zealot/stalker, you're literally claiming that you're going to pick an anti town role.

My list includes all the good roles for town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:09 GMT
#253
The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.

If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).

The goal here is to CONTROL KP.

The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:11 GMT
#257
On January 25 2015 21:09 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:30 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

My list was a list of roles that aren't 100% anti town.

If you pick dt/ht/carrier, and to a lesser extent sentry/zealot/stalker, you're literally claiming that you're going to pick an anti town role.

My list includes all the good roles for town.



Ok, but then I did realize it was on your list.

Right that's fine then.

You're so low on the list that you probably won't get a role, but you not getting a role gives us ton of information.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:12 GMT
#258
On January 25 2015 21:10 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:59 Onegu wrote:
And you need to pick the warp prism palmar it's the most op thing here for scum as it gives them dt and ht.

Maybe we make obi pick that?

If I'm right he's town that makes sure superbia isn't doing shenanigans.

I'd prefer you picking Warp Prism and Obi picking dt. That's like the most scum favored roles out right at the start.

DT isn't that strong though.

Because we just lynch probes if there is unexplained KP.

If on day 2 more than 3 people end up dead (mafia kp + colossus kp) we force a mass claim and kill whoever is scummy among the probe claimers.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:12 GMT
#259
On January 25 2015 21:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I picked a cool town role yay

You're not meant to pick until we have a plan.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:14 GMT
#262
Btw Archon, if ever in danger of being lynched, should claim and claim who he is going to shoot if he gets lynched anyway.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:15 GMT
#263
On January 25 2015 21:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well the plan is that i picked already

you can re-send in your choice...

Well, if you do something stupid we'll maybe let you pick on which side of you the colossus shoots.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:16 GMT
#265
Help me figure that out bro?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:18 GMT
#268
Approved protection/survivability roles
Mothership Core (claims)
Mothership
Immortal
Archon

Approved investigative roles
Observer
Phoenix
Tempest (claims)
Oracle

Approved vigilante roles
Colossus
Void Ray

Mafia roles. Pick = scumclaim
Warp Prism
Zealot
Stalker
Sentry
HT
DT
Carrier
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:18 GMT
#269
On January 25 2015 21:17 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:13 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 21:11 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 21:09 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 21:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:30 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

My list was a list of roles that aren't 100% anti town.

If you pick dt/ht/carrier, and to a lesser extent sentry/zealot/stalker, you're literally claiming that you're going to pick an anti town role.

My list includes all the good roles for town.



Ok, but then I did realize it was on your list.

Right that's fine then.

You're so low on the list that you probably won't get a role, but you not getting a role gives us ton of information.


Should I pick a kp role and claim then? So we know if someone has it already and I can be directed to use if needed?


Like carrier, then at least I have armor and massive at least.


No carrier should under no circumstances be in the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:19 GMT
#270
Of the mafia roles, carrier and warp prism seem by far the strongest. So the questions becomes, do we deny them?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:21 GMT
#271
marv on a scale of 1 to supertown, tell everyone how much town I am now btw. Just so they know.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:30 GMT
#276
On January 25 2015 21:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:19 Palmar wrote:
Of the mafia roles, carrier and warp prism seem by far the strongest. So the questions becomes, do we deny them?



Again warp has to be denied and checked n1. Then I would say dt is a better pick then carrier as it make them immune to checks and kp. And with 3-4 alignment checkers...

Yes but DT can't claim DT and he can't do jack shit, we just lynch him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:31 GMT
#277
Also I'll pick warp thingee but I feel like checking me is a waste of check, but whatever.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:31 GMT
#278
also all probes claim day 1.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:33 GMT
#279
How does this look:

1. Palmar (Warp Prism)
2. superbia (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
3. ObiWanShinobi (Colossus)
4. IAmRobik (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
5. rsoultin (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
6. Fecalfeast (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
7. mderg (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
8. sicklucker (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
9. The Milkman (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
10. Oatsmaster (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
11. Onegu (DT/Carrier/HT/Zealot/Stalker/Sentry)
12. marvellosity (probe)
13. Alakaslam (Tempest/Obs/Oracle/Phoenix/Mothership/Core/Immortal/Archon/Void Ray)
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:36 GMT
#282
Reasons:

I pick Warp Prism Day 1. Someone can check me (probably the tempest as not only will he claim, he's massive and can't be roleblocked, and one of the motherships might be protecting him).

Obi sounded like town for a bit there so he gets the colossus

Onegu sorta sounds like town here (or at least he's trying. If he's mafia you guys are all shit anyway and we deserve to lose) so I'm giving him a FFA "security vent" role thing. He will basically pick one of the roles at his discretion, not use it, but he will therefore hopefully scare mafia in the playerlist above him from trying to pick one of these mafia favored roles.

marv gets probe because he's mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:37 GMT
#283
On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

well I'm not sure what is better, to just slot the roles in and let mafia deal with sorting out the order of shooting, or trying to leave some uncertainity.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:38 GMT
#284
On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp.

The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:42 GMT
#286
On January 25 2015 21:41 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:38 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp.

The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.

It's incredible how town you are.

yeah it worries me too, I'm waiting for the "Palmar is trying too hard to be town"-brigade.
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January 25 2015 12:44 GMT
#288
On January 25 2015 21:42 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:36 Palmar wrote:
Reasons:

I pick Warp Prism Day 1. Someone can check me (probably the tempest as not only will he claim, he's massive and can't be roleblocked, and one of the motherships might be protecting him).

Obi sounded like town for a bit there so he gets the colossus

Onegu sorta sounds like town here (or at least he's trying. If he's mafia you guys are all shit anyway and we deserve to lose) so I'm giving him a FFA "security vent" role thing. He will basically pick one of the roles at his discretion, not use it, but he will therefore hopefully scare mafia in the playerlist above him from trying to pick one of these mafia favored roles.

marv gets probe because he's mafia.



Yeah I'm good,with this. I'll just claim day 1 what I chose and if I got it or not.

yeah that's the idea.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 14:15 GMT
#303
Whatever you do, don't overconfirm me.

Like if you have a legitimate reason to think I'm mafia, go for it, double, triple, quadruple confirm me if you must. But you gotta remember that wasting resources on confirming someone you ALREADY townread (I think most people townread me by now?) is much less productive than using these same resources to clear out the muddy waters of null and red reads.

At some point people need to trust their reads. If you think I'm mafia, force me to take something self-confirmable and make someone else get the WP. The point is to actually use analysis (scumhunting) to give that dangerous role to someone who is always going to be town.

For me it's easy to know I'm town, but if you're so paranoid that I'm mafia, then just go ahead and find a better target in the top 2-4 ish to give it to. In the top 4 players there is always going to be one townie right?
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 14:16 GMT
#304
My point is, don't make a decision and then waffle on that decision with half the shit we could be doing.

Make a decision, run with it and see where it takes us.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 14:17 GMT
#305
Also, marv seems to have vanished which probably confirms I'm right that he's mafia. If he actually is I'm going to start seriously doubting that hosts actually RNG people into teams.
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January 25 2015 15:35 GMT
#312
On January 25 2015 23:53 The Milkman wrote:
I go bowling and this happens, Palmar firing up some additional engines to mass post. At least they are meaningful.
I disagree that VR and Colossus are Town roles. Colossus has no power over who is his second shot, VR packs too strong of a punch. I'd put VR at best on neutral ground, but Colossus with double shot + coward + massive is just no bueno.

It's weird that you haven't understood Warp Prism Palmar, what is more worrying is you (then) ignoring my role analysis. It is true I did not create plans, but at that time draft wasn't public and then I am not one of sandroba's or syllogism's kin to do things like that. I don't think Sentry is that 'Mafia', I think it's 2 Armor aura could be used to great extent. Although rightly so somebody can just stick to the RB and shout obscenities. Anyway, I want Palmar to get WP, Obi picking Colossus on 3rd would be imho a waste if he is Town, which he kind-of-seems-like, because of the carelessness of his behaviour, but I'll have to think a little more about that, having quite hectic days.
Anyway, I am down on the list so I'll probably get a Probe, but that's fine with me. I think my icon is still a Probe.


I didn't read warp prism, I have now. It is a strong role and I'm taking it.

The roleblock just messes with us. If mafia doesn't get KP roles the sentry is useless.

You're missing the point on colossus. It's a double "lynch" for town and he has perfect control over who he shoots, the only condition is that those two have to be right next to each other. The reason I like Colossus over the other vigis for town is that:

a) it cannot be roleblocked, so no shenanigans.
b) it doesn't have the warp ability which is incredibly mafia favored (taking control away from townies). We WILL policy lynch anyone who at any point in the game uses a warp ability.
c) it is two KP that can be aimed into the playerlist and controlled, so it is much harder to "fake" than other KP roles.

It's basically a brilliant ability to give us more KP. Basically we'll find a scummy player and shoot him and pick whoever of his neighbours is more scummy than the other. It might even be very useful for discussion.
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January 25 2015 15:39 GMT
#313
On January 25 2015 23:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I kinda realized the DT is useless outside of stopping alignment checks but I was in the mindset to deny anything that can't be checked.

At this point it seems like a waste because I managed to get so high on the draft list but idrk.

I honestly don't care if mafia picks DT.

If there is an undocumented shot, we lynch probes.

DT can only shoot and fakeclaim: zealot, stalker, oracle, ht, tempest. the oracle and tempest should be checking on night 1, not shooting, and the zealot, stalker and HT are autolynches just like DT.

DO NOT PICK MAFIA ROLES.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 15:41 GMT
#314
Like it's the entire reason I like void ray and colossus, those two vigis have something that makes them "special" and they don't have shenanigans abilities. The colossus is the ONLY ability in the game that hits two people next to each other, and the void ray is the ONLY ability in the game that requires charge up and can then hit three people.

The void ray claims on day 2 btw.
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January 25 2015 15:49 GMT
#316
On January 26 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 23:53 The Milkman wrote:
I go bowling and this happens, Palmar firing up some additional engines to mass post. At least they are meaningful.
I disagree that VR and Colossus are Town roles. Colossus has no power over who is his second shot, VR packs too strong of a punch. I'd put VR at best on neutral ground, but Colossus with double shot + coward + massive is just no bueno.

It's weird that you haven't understood Warp Prism Palmar, what is more worrying is you (then) ignoring my role analysis. It is true I did not create plans, but at that time draft wasn't public and then I am not one of sandroba's or syllogism's kin to do things like that. I don't think Sentry is that 'Mafia', I think it's 2 Armor aura could be used to great extent. Although rightly so somebody can just stick to the RB and shout obscenities. Anyway, I want Palmar to get WP, Obi picking Colossus on 3rd would be imho a waste if he is Town, which he kind-of-seems-like, because of the carelessness of his behaviour, but I'll have to think a little more about that, having quite hectic days.
Anyway, I am down on the list so I'll probably get a Probe, but that's fine with me. I think my icon is still a Probe.


I didn't read warp prism, I have now. It is a strong role and I'm taking it.

The roleblock just messes with us. If mafia doesn't get KP roles the sentry is useless.

You're missing the point on colossus. It's a double "lynch" for town and he has perfect control over who he shoots, the only condition is that those two have to be right next to each other. The reason I like Colossus over the other vigis for town is that:

a) it cannot be roleblocked, so no shenanigans.
b) it doesn't have the warp ability which is incredibly mafia favored (taking control away from townies). We WILL policy lynch anyone who at any point in the game uses a warp ability.
c) it is two KP that can be aimed into the playerlist and controlled, so it is much harder to "fake" than other KP roles.

It's basically a brilliant ability to give us more KP. Basically we'll find a scummy player and shoot him and pick whoever of his neighbours is more scummy than the other. It might even be very useful for discussion.


Okay...so I get that it can't be, what's the word, easily faked. Kinda. Assuming that you don't have 2 kp available in scum and they hit people side-by-side for the wifom and lols watching town flip shit over it, (I haven't double-checked to be certain there are no other roles with splash effect type kp, but I seem to remember reading that in there somewhere). The next question is how useful is a vigi shot to town that isn't targeted?

You're assuming town gets lucky enough to have a scummy next to a scum where getting rid of both actually is a good play. I mean, it happens, but I dunnae how likely that is.


We can always tell the colossus not to shoot... we ASSIGNED it to Obi.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 16:41 GMT
#330
Slam read my plan.

Oats might be mafia
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January 25 2015 17:23 GMT
#336
On January 26 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
Not gonna lie, apart from seeing that there are certain roles that are obviously made for town and certain ones obviously made for scum, I'm a little lost. I chose my role awhile back.

We're not thinking of massclaiming, are we? I don't actually think that would be the worst idea, especially if you wanted to maximize roles that help town narrow down scum and not end up with too many probes.

We will mass claim.

You can change your role and you should if it doesn't fit my plan.

You're not a unique snowflake. Fall in line.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 17:23 GMT
#337
by "we will massclaim" I mean eventually, not at day 1.
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January 25 2015 17:24 GMT
#338
It's pretty clear which roles should claim on day 1 (I will, the tempest should and the core should).

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January 25 2015 20:57 GMT
#348
Superbia is sounding pretty damn townie right about now.

Also marv is basically confirmed mafia at this point. Sucks to be him I guess. It's super hard to break out of your town meta when all you do is roll mafia.
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Palmar
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January 25 2015 22:58 GMT
#359
marv is mafia so he's not playing.

Robik might be dead?
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January 26 2015 08:03 GMT
#459
##vote Milkman
Policy
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 08:14 GMT
#460
Just to explain why we have to kill him.

a) the reason I didn't say "hey someone take carrier or ht or dt or something" but specifically assigned the task to Onegu, is because I want control over these roles and I don't want them to people unless there are at least reasons to believe they are town.

b) Milkman wasn't being particularly townread by anyone I can remember. I actually think the only read that was given on him was me calling him the scummiest person in the thread.

c) We had a plan, milkman had plenty of time to argue against the plan and he didn't do it well enough to get people to follow an alternative.

d) of all the possible scum roles, Carrier is by far the best for this purpose because it is silent. If we get convinced he is town and he is actually mafia (for example if we don't lynch him and agree to check him instead) he gets to start setting up kills. Hell, he could even be the DT and claimed carrier just so he could say "hey go check me if you don't trust me"

Also, if he somehow is town, which I don't think is likely, I'm fucking nostradamus:

On January 25 2015 21:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes.

tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp.

The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.


On January 25 2015 21:09 Palmar wrote:
The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.

If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).

The goal here is to CONTROL KP.

The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.



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January 26 2015 09:33 GMT
#463
On January 26 2015 17:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said that but with less words.
AM I TOWN PALMAR??!?

No.
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January 26 2015 09:35 GMT
#464
On January 26 2015 18:09 The Milkman wrote:
I was the one putting the plan forward Palmar, I was first. I was talking about the roles. I was saying which ones should be picked or not. I landed on 9th, I said to myself that I won't probably get a strong town role and I might as well pick something that is hard to kill during the night and if not (this is something that you omit! 2 armor and massive give great night survivability, for which Mafia does not need to care!) , I gain important information that in the eight of people above me this role sits.
I'll say that again: I was first to acknowledge that Carrier is Mafia role, I was first to acknowledge that Warp Prism is the most Mafia role. I don't care about what read people had on me before the pick. I could've not claimed and I would not be lynched. Why would I claim then? I knew what I was undertaking. I honestly thought Carrier would be gone. I just wanted to know where it landed approximately, of course.
I won't send interceptors. Moment somebody claims you lynch me, confirm me as Town and lynch the liar. It doesn't take a big brain to know that I should send them as fast as possible! But what if I am part of Mafia and I claimed Carrier, but some other guy actually has it? Well, nobody said that they gunned for Carrier in higher positions and I am full of shit, so I guess Carrier was not much of an importance to the Mafia team and supposing Onegu is Town, HT was neither. I honestly have no idea how these two roles might have landed in Town hands, especially at the spots I and Onegu are.

Palmar, did you go for WP as planned?
Obi, did you go for Colossus as planned?


Snowflake alert!

Yes I went for WP.
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January 26 2015 09:36 GMT
#465
Actually on second thought. Making the colossus shoot you would probably be a good idea. I don't think SL or Oats have done actually anything this game to warrant being called town.
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January 26 2015 09:36 GMT
#466
We'll see, need more people to get in on the action.

Marv is a good alternative lynch because he is mafia.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 09:41 GMT
#469
On January 26 2015 18:39 The Milkman wrote:
Also I thought you were against a KP rampage my dear citizen.

Uncontrolled KP rampage.

I am 100% fine with KP I control. In fact, if I kill everyone in the game that is not me, I win the game. So it is directly in my best interest to kill everyone in the game.

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January 26 2015 09:42 GMT
#470
On January 26 2015 18:38 The Milkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 18:36 Palmar wrote:
Actually on second thought. Making the colossus shoot you would probably be a good idea. I don't think SL or Oats have done actually anything this game to warrant being called town.

Okay. I have an even better plan if you really want me dead. Onegu storms me. He can do that right now. We confirm him being a HT and we get rid of me and potentially SL/Oats that I am also suspicious of. Just don't cry over the spilt milk, citizen.

I didn't actually think about that.

Also, whatever, you could be town (unless there is some magical way of dodging storms that I don't know about). Mafia probably wouldn't suggest a new way of getting themselves killed with 80% chance or something at the start of day 1.

You're still a moron.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 09:44 GMT
#471
This is beautiful though, Onegu controlling the high templar means more KP for us on day 1.

Only problem is I'm not sure he'll agree with storming marv, with risking his own death, but still I think that'd be a fine idea.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 10:49 GMT
#473
On January 26 2015 18:47 The Milkman wrote:
Are we really with an SK here? Jesus.
I am not a moron. You are for suggesting that. Would you really STILL uphold your claim that I am Mafia because I wanted to check whether Carrier is in game, because I wanted night protection and I could spite IdrA with my useful skill toi have if I were the last guy in the draft? Like Chezinu got a CPR Doc once off an unthinkable position, but I ain't a CPR Doc citizen.
If I did not claim you would not lynch me, so think why would I claim. All I got is some bullshit on my ass while I could send interceptors and laugh my ass off with people running in circles screaming that they are going to die.

What on earth are you talking about with an SK?

And no, I don't stand by the claim you are mafia. You might be, but there are other more likely candidates at the moment. Although this outburst of anger AFTER I had changed my mind seems fairly strange.

I do stand by the claim that if you are town you have a massive dose of "unique snowflake"-syndrome, which also usually indicates morons.
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January 26 2015 11:47 GMT
#476
Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?

@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?
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January 26 2015 12:43 GMT
#481
On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?

@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?

i sound nothing like mafia.

Nah its not reasonable.
Mafia marv plays the game.
this marv apparently doesnt.

This is so wrong it hurts.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 12:55 GMT
#483
you're going to get so rekt when I'm scum mderg.
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January 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#488
On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 21:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?

@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?

i sound nothing like mafia.

Nah its not reasonable.
Mafia marv plays the game.
this marv apparently doesnt.

This is so wrong it hurts.

how about no?
Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1?

literally every game he has played as scum ever.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 13:19 GMT
#489
that's kind of his thing as mafia, just be so boring that I want to cry.
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January 26 2015 14:32 GMT
#513
we should just make Onegu storm himself for 40% chance of murdering both marv and oats

that'd be hilarious.
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Palmar
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January 26 2015 14:35 GMT
#515
16% chance both die
48% chance one dies
36% chance neither dies.
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January 26 2015 14:35 GMT
#516
milkman might be dumb town.
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January 26 2015 14:41 GMT
#518
Like I want to sort of murder Oats. Not because I don't think marv is mafia, but Oats' defense of him is just so blatantly wrong that it could be TMI.

Like no one on earth thinks that disinterested lazy marv is more likely to be town than mafia, and certainly not to the point of defending him as hard as Oats has.

If Oats was town I'd think his thought process was much less certain of marv's alignment. Like it's basically inconceivable to me that Oats can be this certain marv isn't mafia with as little information as marv has given us. There is obviously a case to be made for marv being town and disinterested, but it's not a strong enough case to act like oats does. Much more reasonable approach would be.

"chill guys, let's see if marv picks up. If he doesn't we gotta lynch him I suppose"
"look, he might just be disinterested and town. I don't know"

These kind of semi-hedged bets on his alignment make a lot of sense from a town perspective. It's exactly how you think when you're town. You're never certain of anything but you try to fit things to general rules.

Oats, on the other hand, is basically chainsaw defending marv for absolutely no good reason.

On January 26 2015 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 22:19 Palmar wrote:
that's kind of his thing as mafia, just be so boring that I want to cry.

Ok, i didnt really mean interesting, I meant ANY POSTS AT ALL.

CAUSE HE HAS NOT POSTED JACK SHIT PALMAR.

Scum marv is like scum palmar. He wants to win.

This is not definitively scum marv at all.
Its nothing marv.


On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 21:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?

@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?

i sound nothing like mafia.

Nah its not reasonable.
Mafia marv plays the game.
this marv apparently doesnt.

This is so wrong it hurts.

how about no?
Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1?

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January 26 2015 14:44 GMT
#523
On January 26 2015 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote:
Like I want to sort of murder Oats. Not because I don't think marv is mafia, but Oats' defense of him is just so blatantly wrong that it could be TMI.

Like no one on earth thinks that disinterested lazy marv is more likely to be town than mafia, and certainly not to the point of defending him as hard as Oats has.

If Oats was town I'd think his thought process was much less certain of marv's alignment. Like it's basically inconceivable to me that Oats can be this certain marv isn't mafia with as little information as marv has given us. There is obviously a case to be made for marv being town and disinterested, but it's not a strong enough case to act like oats does. Much more reasonable approach would be.

"chill guys, let's see if marv picks up. If he doesn't we gotta lynch him I suppose"
"look, he might just be disinterested and town. I don't know"

These kind of semi-hedged bets on his alignment make a lot of sense from a town perspective. It's exactly how you think when you're town. You're never certain of anything but you try to fit things to general rules.

Oats, on the other hand, is basically chainsaw defending marv for absolutely no good reason.

On January 26 2015 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 26 2015 22:19 Palmar wrote:
that's kind of his thing as mafia, just be so boring that I want to cry.

Ok, i didnt really mean interesting, I meant ANY POSTS AT ALL.

CAUSE HE HAS NOT POSTED JACK SHIT PALMAR.

Scum marv is like scum palmar. He wants to win.

This is not definitively scum marv at all.
Its nothing marv.


On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 26 2015 21:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?

@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?

i sound nothing like mafia.

Nah its not reasonable.
Mafia marv plays the game.
this marv apparently doesnt.

This is so wrong it hurts.

how about no?
Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1?


thats not chainsaw defending.
Chainsaw defending is calling you scum palmar.

Anyway, im super sure man.

I dont think you realise just how many games ive played with marv.

And I haven't?
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January 26 2015 14:49 GMT
#525
On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though


I initially called marv scum for this post. It's a super weak tone read. This sort of "I'm not going to work with you guys to show I'm independent, but I'm still not gonna be a complete asshole about it". Like it's the in between of "fuck you guys, Imma do my own thing" and "here's our plan and how we make it work".

like the point about it partially conflicting with someone has nothing to do with the game at hand and there is no need to even mention it.




the reason I'm explaining this is because marv reacts very starkly to me thinking he's mafia. One of his responses is, and probably what he'd normally do, is to simply clam up and make sure he doesn't give up his team. Which me might well be doing here.

He has done it before, in fact he has soft-claimed mafia twice after I figure him out on day 1 and just stopped trying. He tryharded last game and got carried by town-baddies. I don't think he'd be inclined to doing it again.
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January 26 2015 14:50 GMT
#526
So to me it's completely unreasonable to DEFEND him at this point.
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January 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#532
I don't think you can do both?
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January 26 2015 15:51 GMT
#533
also you should feedback a probe

just so we know he aint no sneaky probe P
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January 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#552
On January 27 2015 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
when marv flips town we lynch super k.

no we lynch you for totally tmi.
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January 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#553
also this is the towniest sicklucker has ever played, it doesn't mean he's not mafia though. It just means that he's contributing an enormous amount to this game by not spamming the fuck out of it with dumb shit.
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January 26 2015 16:32 GMT
#555
##unvote
##vote marvellosity
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January 26 2015 16:35 GMT
#559
On January 27 2015 01:34 Superbia wrote:
Palmar if we haven't hit anyone by d3, you're up for the lynch. You okay with that?

sure

by day 3 everyone will be dead anyway.
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January 26 2015 17:11 GMT
#561
On January 27 2015 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:
How do you know

I am nostradamus, remember.
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January 26 2015 20:57 GMT
#582
On January 27 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
KILL THEM ALL KILL THEM ALL! ok im into this game now sorry palmer

No by all means, keep doing whatever you were doing.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 26 2015 22:02 GMT
#586
I'm playing dota, I'm just dead at the moment.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 26 2015 22:13 GMT
#589
oh right.

yeah, tempest and mothership should claim.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 08:27 GMT
#662
Not approved
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 08:49 GMT
#666
If he actually submitted a storm action Milkman, do you think he's mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 10:30 GMT
#678
I am certain marv is one of the three:

1) mafia
2) dead (rip)
3) dick

I think 1 is by far the most likely. I hope it's not 2, I really like marv, he's a good guy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 10:31 GMT
#679
Like obviously he hasn't done anything super "LOOK I'M MAFIA" thing, but that's just a product of him doing nothing. I am not going to wifom myself out of lynching him when I think he's mafia. I'm on like a 4? game streak of calling him out as mafia (and losing every single one... of course).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 10:47 GMT
#682
On January 27 2015 19:37 sicklucker wrote:
Palmer you act like your some kind of god for calling marv mafia when hes claiming mafia

Again, your input is not appreciated.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 14:25 GMT
#719
I have zero problem with the colossus shooting robik and rsoultin
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#720
On January 27 2015 21:06 The Milkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 17:49 Palmar wrote:
If he actually submitted a storm action Milkman, do you think he's mafia?

Drinking just to storm me is an interesting way about it, that's for sure. I can't really tell, I mean the 40% chance is not really certain and not really that uncommon... That's a lot of gambling here. The only thing that is worrying really is that he is storming someone who is told to storm, not someone he wanted to storm out of himself.

I didn't tell him to storm you.

And I am the king.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:42 GMT
#737
psionic storm ignores armor so it's easy to figure out bro.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:44 GMT
#738
@Lightningstrike:

open command prompt (start, run, cmd, or on windows 8 just open metro search windowskey+s and type "cmd")

paste this in: SET /A number=%RANDOM% * 100 / 32768 + 1

This will generate a random number between 1-100

If it's 1-80, milkman dies. if it's 81-100 he lives

then do the same with the other two people with new numbers (just paste the line again)

1-40 they die, 41-100 they live.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:46 GMT
#743
tbh, if you don't suck and have an up to date powershell, it's much easier to just do get-random(100) in that.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:47 GMT
#744
On January 28 2015 00:45 Superbia wrote:
Are you sure cmd's RNG is truly random? If it's the same as the standard rand() function in windows it won't be seeded with the current time, hence it'll always give the same series of numbers.

It's not seeded with current time, just the time the cmd session was started, which is random enough for this instance.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:50 GMT
#749
On January 28 2015 00:47 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 28 2015 00:45 Superbia wrote:
Are you sure cmd's RNG is truly random? If it's the same as the standard rand() function in windows it won't be seeded with the current time, hence it'll always give the same series of numbers.

It's not seeded with current time, just the time the cmd session was started, which is random enough for this instance.


Really? That's fair enough then. Has that been changed in recent windows versions or something?

Eh, that's just what I recall. Don't quote me on this.

I know the powershell one is seeded based on current time (and you can specify your own seed too, if you want), but I don't expect people to know how to use powershell.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 15:59 GMT
#756
lol slam
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 16:13 GMT
#758
Onegu killed a townread of mine.

Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 16:58 GMT
#770
On January 28 2015 01:40 Superbia wrote:
I kind of want Colossus to kill oats and onegu.



I approve
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 16:59 GMT
#772
Lol best cohost
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:00 GMT
#773
I blame sentinel. LS did nothing wrong

#teamlightningstrike
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:06 GMT
#780
Onegu and Marv are mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:06 GMT
#781
Lynch Marv tho
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#785
On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.

Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia.


Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman.

How dare you speak to the King like that?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#790
On January 28 2015 02:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 02:12 Palmar wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.

Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia.


Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman.

How dare you speak to the King like that?


I'm brilliant that way

Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol

I didn't direct this one. Hence it was awful because I'm basically Stephen hawking except not + Show Spoiler +
clean shaven
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#797
On January 28 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 02:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:14 rsoultin wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:12 Palmar wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.

Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia.


Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman.

How dare you speak to the King like that?


I'm brilliant that way

Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol

I didn't direct this one. Hence it was awful because I'm basically Stephen hawking except not + Show Spoiler +
clean shaven


Eh, you were talking about it, I remember that much. I don't really have the time to double-check the thread against my memory though cause have to shower and go into work.

I guess I'll just go with marv. Seems least damaging.
look at this shitty guy playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#798
On January 28 2015 02:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar, can you tell me why I am really suspicious of you right now? How that could make sense?

I will if you can't, if you can you can probably do away with some of the suspicion.

Sorry bro I honestly can't. Usually I know when I am being scummy but I don't think I am this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 00:41 GMT
#867
wow much excite
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 00:42 GMT
#868
On January 25 2015 08:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though

mafia


On January 26 2015 23:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though


I initially called marv scum for this post. It's a super weak tone read. This sort of "I'm not going to work with you guys to show I'm independent, but I'm still not gonna be a complete asshole about it". Like it's the in between of "fuck you guys, Imma do my own thing" and "here's our plan and how we make it work".

like the point about it partially conflicting with someone has nothing to do with the game at hand and there is no need to even mention it.


If he flips mafia, this may be as cool as when I dueled him 2 minutes into a game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 00:44 GMT
#870
On January 28 2015 09:42 sicklucker wrote:
Lol ff trys to kill me in everygame regardless of my actions

You've been so useful this game for town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 00:50 GMT
#877
OWS is shooting you Onegu. How do you feel about this?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 01:21 GMT
#911
On January 28 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
OMGUS I think going on here sicklucker. How is anyone confirmed town to town right now?

I am confirmed.

Anyone who disagrees is basically just bad at everything.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 01:48 GMT
#921
On January 28 2015 10:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 10:37 sicklucker wrote:
oh hes scum no surprise there. robik no your not

First one to call out marv and made comments that I wouldn't make as maf/maf with him
it's really cute that you claim i'm not -- it's really cute

bro...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 02:04 GMT
#930
There will be problems if someone wastes a check on me
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 12:31 GMT
#976
I would be fine with killing rsoultin just for thinking he's a badass that should get a pass.

No one gets a pass, ever.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 13:33 GMT
#979
On January 28 2015 22:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 21:31 Palmar wrote:
I would be fine with killing rsoultin just for thinking he's a badass that should get a pass.

No one gets a pass, ever.


Bad reason xP

Where do you stand on your reads, Palmar?

I believe that if we kill everyone that isn't me that'd be wonderful.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 15:49 GMT
#982
On January 28 2015 22:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 22:33 Palmar wrote:
On January 28 2015 22:21 rsoultin wrote:
On January 28 2015 21:31 Palmar wrote:
I would be fine with killing rsoultin just for thinking he's a badass that should get a pass.

No one gets a pass, ever.


Bad reason xP

Where do you stand on your reads, Palmar?

I believe that if we kill everyone that isn't me that'd be wonderful.


Lol, not really an answer there, Palmar.

@SL, yeah, I know. But that doesn't make Palmar's reason less bad. He just didn't like what I said, and what I said was not alignment-indicative. I will accept a response of: that mofo was inactive as fuck Day 1. That would be a good reason.

I like killing people.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 15:49 GMT
#983
On January 29 2015 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am going to wall in.

Dont bother wasting KP.

confirmed mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 15:51 GMT
#985
On January 29 2015 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 16:47 sicklucker wrote:
On January 28 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, I like SL this game. If he got one of the roles he claims to have gotten it actually makes perfect sense for him to suggest storming me. (But stop that -_- SL. There are seven ahead of you lol, and at best only two can be scum.)

Gonna put you in my town pool despite the screaming of kill kill xP


KILL KILL




KILL ROBOK

What's your obsession with killing town!robik?

did he say he wanted to do that? I can't find townrobik.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 16:02 GMT
#988
I kinda wanna lynch you robik for trying to claim to be the first one to call out marv in what was clearly my lynch.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 16:36 GMT
#991
On January 29 2015 01:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 01:02 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch you robik for trying to claim to be the first one to call out marv in what was clearly my lynch.

read my posts. My filter is pretty small. Read what I wrote about marv. You think we're maf/maf?

Don't care
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 16:42 GMT
#993
On January 29 2015 01:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
On January 29 2015 01:07 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 29 2015 01:02 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch you robik for trying to claim to be the first one to call out marv in what was clearly my lynch.

read my posts. My filter is pretty small. Read what I wrote about marv. You think we're maf/maf?

Don't care

Well it's comforting to know that you don't think I'm mafia

I know you're not mafia because else you'd be in my QT
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 16:49 GMT
#995
People did exactly what I said?

or at least mostly.

They lynched marv. I said lynch marv. Life is good.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 28 2015 23:41 GMT
#1019
On January 29 2015 08:02 Onegu wrote:
Don't forget to check palmar, if scum he has to make a HT for kills because he gets checked tonight.

checking me is literally a waste.

whatever though, someone is probably going to be dumb/tinfoil enough to do it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 30 2015 16:16 GMT
#1357
I like how we won this super scum favored game with big plays like drunk storm.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 30 2015 16:19 GMT
#1359
marv

do you believe hosts rng their shit?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 30 2015 16:21 GMT
#1361
Also, jesus christ all you townies are fucking pussies. No one had the balls to pick the claim roles.

The snowflake is real.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 30 2015 16:22 GMT
#1362
Town LVP:

Milkman.
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