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On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever.
Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this.
But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway.
My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense.
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On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia.
I'm assuming you mean it's sub-optimal for 1 mafia to go for the same number as another mafia.
So what do y'all think of Palmar's assertion that Marv is scum this game? I know he supposedly doesn't play much as scum at times.
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Mrt -_- I overbooked.
Yeah, bad decision, I know.
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Anyone have a down and dirty while I get caught up?
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So...Slam is making sense. o.0 Have I just seen him play enough now to get through the weird or does that mean something?
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Yeah I read the next page. I rescind the making sense part, lol.
So, is the storm thing something seriously being considered? Statistically, unless you're certain your main target is scum, doesn't really seem town-favored.
Course if he already submitted the action this whole conversation is moot -_-
How certain are you on Marv, Palmar?
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On January 27 2015 19:31 Palmar wrote:
Like obviously he hasn't done anything super "LOOK I'M MAFIA" thing, but that's just a product of him doing nothing. I am not going to wifom myself out of lynching him when I think he's mafia. I'm on like a 4? game streak of calling him out as mafia (and losing every single one... of course).
Yeah, I watched Metal. That just went to hell in a hand-basket fast after a great start.
He definitely did next to nothing there, so I'm inclined to agree with you, but the not posting at all thing does kind of make me wonder. Doesn't he usually post just a little?
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Give the SL a little slack?
Or just call him stupid enough and he ignores you. Hi SL <3
He may just have been stormed to death (not sure exactly how the mechanics on that works) after all.
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So, SL, you said you could be one of two roles, right? Why the half-claim?
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On January 27 2015 22:52 Onegu wrote:
Marv is about to be mod killed I think since he didn't post today at all. I would storm slam but I don't want to hit palmar. I may just feedback tonight, or storm into lurkers.
Onegu, why slam?
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On January 27 2015 21:18 Superbia wrote:
I'm finding it hard to believe that mafia is just rolling over and dying.
I still think marv is mafia, but what the fuck is happening in this game?
+1
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On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.
Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia.
Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman.
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On January 28 2015 02:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.
Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia. Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman. How dare you speak to the King like that?
I'm brilliant that way 
Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol
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From a not-entirely-plugged-in perspective this town seems way too kill-happy for me.
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On January 28 2015 02:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 02:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 02:12 Palmar wrote:On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.
Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia. Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman. How dare you speak to the King like that? I'm brilliant that way Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol I didn't direct this one. Hence it was awful because I'm basically Stephen hawking except not + Show Spoiler +
Eh, you were talking about it, I remember that much. I don't really have the time to double-check the thread against my memory though cause have to shower and go into work.
I guess I'll just go with marv. Seems least damaging.
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On January 28 2015 02:17 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:
From a not-entirely-plugged-in perspective this town seems way too kill-happy for me. Gotta use that town-kp.
On day-one reads, though? Lol, I guess we're expecting a town massacre come nightfall or something cause that's the only thing that justifies scattershot kp on hunches.
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On January 28 2015 02:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 02:16 Palmar wrote:On January 28 2015 02:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 02:12 Palmar wrote:On January 28 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Onegu killed a townread of mine.
Either he's a right and a hero, or he's mafia. Weren't you voting him before Marv and calling him a "special snowflake" king Palmar? I know I wasn't reading the thread super close, but I don't remember a townread on Milkman. How dare you speak to the King like that? I'm brilliant that way Even if you are directing all the kills with your iron scepter lol I didn't direct this one. Hence it was awful because I'm basically Stephen hawking except not + Show Spoiler + Eh, you were talking about it, I remember that much. I don't really have the time to double-check the thread against my memory though cause have to shower and go into work. I guess I'll just go with marv. Seems least damaging. look at this shitty guy playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
##vote: Marv
My reads certainly aren't god-tier enough to pick out an entire scumteam in one go. I think it takes an exceptional form of arrogance, even for here, to think you're that good.
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On January 28 2015 02:27 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 02:20 rsoultin wrote:On January 28 2015 02:17 Superbia wrote:On January 28 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:
From a not-entirely-plugged-in perspective this town seems way too kill-happy for me. Gotta use that town-kp. On day-one reads, though? Lol, I guess we're expecting a town massacre come nightfall or something cause that's the only thing that justifies scattershot kp on hunches. I feel like spread KP on Onegu/Oats is excellent. They basically combined put KP on what is now confirmed town for who the fuck knows why? Onegu is scummy for doing exactly what unconfirmed, not-very-towny people told him to do. Then claiming he was drunk. Oats is scummy because he pushed on MilkMan (and off marv) for policy-reasons, even though MilkMan had displayed good reasoning behind picking Carrier and his interceptor logic was sound. Oats essentially ignored this (afaik). Prob 1 mafia between the two.
I'm going to have to reread and see if I mixed up which players said what to who. But the snowflake thing is definitely a Palmar-ism so I don't think I misremembered that.
I'll have some time right before EoD. At least Sent won't let the town nuke itself till nightfall lol.
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alaka <3 we may be entirely wrong but were on the same page. checked in after they killed me the bastards lol so ill have time to really play now
not for another hour or so though
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