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On January 21 2015 08:18 jarjarbinks wrote:
@Rsoultin
I looked at the votes. Definitely doesn't conclusively show that Geript switched to screw me.
Right before he switched I had 4 and GB had 6. His switch made it GB-5 me-4. LS switched to me about 10 seconds later. THEN others followed. I mean it is possible that he did switch to screw me, but he would have had to figure people would get off the GB train if he switched and/or saw that the GB train was losing traction.
Damdred was hard bussing me. It is possible he saw it coming, but he was definitely not the only factor in putting me on the chopblock.
And thanks again for defending me at EOD! You get some more bro brownie points lolz
I still haven't had a chance to look closely. Just got home from work. But I will say that it is a bit of an out there sort of play unless scum was all nicely settled on GB.
It's a cool theory though lol. I kinda like the outlandish ones just to have a different viewpoint to approach things from. I'll still look but it seems like there would be too many unknowns to pull it off effectively.
Geript is questioning you about bussing because bussing means mafia pushing or voting their own mafia teammate. Assuming you're town, it's okay lol. I did it my first game, too, calling it bussing when it was just a push.
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Like JJB literally just was 100% wrong. Damdred never really heavily pushed JJB. He procrastinates on reading him for like half the day then lackadaisically tells people to vote for him. Like there's never even a good reason for Damdred to even say the shit he is other than his flipfloppery on GB (town-mafia-town).
Plus JJB is literally claiming mafia with Damdred. Idk. I'll think about this more but I can't fathom a reason JJB says anything like that as town.
In the least, we lynch Trfel and have more time to think about it.
##vote Trfel
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On January 21 2015 09:03 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I'm here all day on and off cause im not working.
Gonna read the game again. If anyone wants to chat feel free.
Read Damdred and tell me what you see.
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On January 21 2015 09:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:03 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I'm here all day on and off cause im not working.
Gonna read the game again. If anyone wants to chat feel free. Read Damdred and tell me what you see.
ok.
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On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it.
The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch.
There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town.
When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process.
Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all.
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You really have to take the wifom out. GB flipping town doesn't give credibility to anyone. It doesn't really lessen credibility either. It's a NK. Like we're the people pushing him pushing him for good reasons? Does GB have any valuable reads we've missed out on now knowing he's town. That's what matters.
Regarding the Damdred wagon, that's a quite interesting point. Just like mafia tend to not lynch claimed blues or in the least tend to move off their wagon. Mafia tend to not help lynch vets. So if Damdred is town it makes sense for him. Like if you assume for a second that DP and I am town. That same vote count makes GB look awfully scummy.
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On January 21 2015 09:25 geript wrote:
You really have to take the wifom out. GB flipping town doesn't give credibility to anyone. It doesn't really lessen credibility either. It's a NK. Like we're the people pushing him pushing him for good reasons? Does GB have any valuable reads we've missed out on now knowing he's town. That's what matters.
Regarding the Damdred wagon, that's a quite interesting point. Just like mafia tend to not lynch claimed blues or in the least tend to move off their wagon. Mafia tend to not help lynch vets. So if Damdred is town it makes sense for him. Like if you assume for a second that DP and I am town. That same vote count makes GB look awfully scummy.
I need to reread you both, but I think my first instinct on you was right, and you're probably town based on EoD. Paranoia is normal for me -_- that and an argumentative soul lol.
So you're saying that mafia wouldn't be on Damdred if he is town? If DP and you are town...how does that make GB look scummy? o.0 I think I'm missing your point, lol. I thought the only "vets" in this game were you and DP. Everyone's a vet compared to me but y'all have a different line.
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Unless your point geript is that mafia does tend to pick on the fumbling newbies in this game as the easy mislynches xP Which I would have to agree with from personal experience, limited though that is.
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On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it. The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch. There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town. When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process. Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all.
This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then.
I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure.
That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play.
I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok
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On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points.
On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh',
TO:
I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter.
That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter.
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On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter.
No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you.
But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point.
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Day 2: Current Vote Count
Trfel (8): LightningStrike, DarthPunk, Breshke, Damdred, rsoultin, jarjarbinks, The Shining, geript
Not Voting (2): Trfel, LoneMeow
Currently, Trfel is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter. No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you. But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point.
That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another.
If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh.
The rational between those two posts is entirely different.
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LoneMeow has been warned for inactivity.
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Remember, voting is mandatory, and it is required you post at least once per phase. If you fail follow activity requirements, you will be modkilled or replaced.
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Anyway I read Damdreds filter again.
Brief summary:
Lots of shitty one liners and he switches his opinion on things ALOT.
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On January 21 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it. The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch. There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town. When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process. Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all. This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then. I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure. That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play. I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok
LS always hyperfocuses on meta. -_- I find it hard to believe you've failed to notice that. Just like I find it hard to believe you missed Trfel's EXTREME play change.
It's not stupid. Just as it isn't stupid that you townread GB all through the game, then with apparently no explanation said maybe he could be a good lynch? How does that make sense? It certainly doesn't to me. Where did you first start thinking GB was boring, may I ask? Maybe I just missed that part when I went back into your filter before EoD.
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On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter. No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you. But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point. That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another. If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh. The rational between those two posts is entirely different.
No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane.
You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh.
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On January 21 2015 09:48 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it. The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch. There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town. When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process. Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all. This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then. I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure. That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play. I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok LS always hyperfocuses on meta. -_- I find it hard to believe you've failed to notice that. Just like I find it hard to believe you missed Trfel's EXTREME play change. It's not stupid. Just as it isn't stupid that you townread GB all through the game, then with apparently no explanation said maybe he could be a good lynch? How does that make sense? It certainly doesn't to me. Where did you first start thinking GB was boring, may I ask? Maybe I just missed that part when I went back into your filter before EoD.
LS focusing on meta is good, LS ASKING someone else my meta isn't good. There is a distinct difference between the two.
GB was boring before he pushed me, a boring GB is scum. When GB barely does anything hes boring, he didn't really do anything until he pushed me.
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On January 21 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter. No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you. But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point. That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another. If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh. The rational between those two posts is entirely different. No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane. You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh.
Then why not state I was obv town as the reason you were not going to read my alignment in the context of discussing my alignment with Geript?
Instead you said my alignment was 'not one way or the other' and that you Didn;t want to read my posts because they were meh.
So which was it? Was I obv town and that is the reason not to read my filter or was it 'not one way or the other' and Meh posting that was the reason not to read my filter?
Your story is shaky as fuck.
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Sorry, I thought that we were supposed to post at least once every phase, not once every 48 hours. I had a bunch of work to do, I finished some of it, I will be be back and post more tonight.
Sorry, I didn't realize that I would be so busy.
This lynch wagon is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that everyone is voting to lynch me. Just because I am trying to change my play and figure out how the game works? That doesn't make any sense at all. I care enough to try different things and see what works. Evidently this didn't work.
You guys are seriously believing the guy who claimed cop? First of all, he started the game completely nonsensical, and somehow got townread, and then changed his behavior completely. Why would town do anything different after they get townread? I can't decide if he is simply a town liar or if he is a mafia trying to get a townie lynched, but I'm inclined to think the latter. If you don't listen to me know, hopefully you will at least lynch him next after I flip. A one to one change with a mafia is a pretty good result for a townie.
I'll look into some other scum options, but this wagon on me is really giving a lot away. I'm pretty sure that the mafia team is leading it.
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