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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 20 2015 18:11 GMT
#1121
Trfel (red check previous stated reasons), LM (its in my filter but disconnected from the game, doesn't really have reads the eod stuff was just trying to find a spot to seat a vote)

And the third i'm not really sure, my hope is that tr is the roleblocker and they have to pick between shooting one of you and they can check one of the last unconfirmed to me. Right now I have it at

Dp/Breshke
Shining
Rsoultin
Geript

I can't really get closer than that. I really doubt bresh, its a bit wifom but I don't think dp would connect himself so much to his team mates so idk.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 20 2015 18:15 GMT
#1122
On January 21 2015 03:11 Damdred wrote:
Trfel (red check previous stated reasons), LM (its in my filter but disconnected from the game, doesn't really have reads the eod stuff was just trying to find a spot to seat a vote)

And the third i'm not really sure, my hope is that tr is the roleblocker and they have to pick between shooting one of you and they can check one of the last unconfirmed to me. Right now I have it at

Dp/Breshke
Shining
Rsoultin
Geript

I can't really get closer than that. I really doubt bresh, its a bit wifom but I don't think dp would connect himself so much to his team mates so idk.

I had Trfel (I checked him myself), LM as the first members but the 3rd one I having trouble with myself. Also can you link the games when rsoultin was Scum so I can compare the play there to here?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 20 2015 18:34 GMT
#1123
Rsoultin has never been scum here and I couldn't find the other games I played with him in. But it doesn't look like this
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 20 2015 18:47 GMT
#1124
On January 21 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Rsoultin has never been scum here and I couldn't find the other games I played with him in. But it doesn't look like this

Ok I thought'd ask since I never played her when she was scum that's all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 20 2015 22:16 GMT
#1125
Anyone here want to talk?
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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 22:29 GMT
#1126
Just got home. Eatin that BK. You still there?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 20 2015 22:30 GMT
#1127
I still here JarJar who you think is the entire scum team and why?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 22:30 GMT
#1128
On January 20 2015 16:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 15:27 jarjarbinks wrote:
On January 20 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 14:44 jarjarbinks wrote:
On January 20 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote:
@ Jarjar who is your top 3 lynches other than trefel.


I'll rank them.

1. LM- The lurky mafia of the group. Was scumming me after I felt mafia knew I was blue. A lot of people had talked about them. I voted for LM before forced to leave and I'll stick to it for now. The Trfel vote on LM worries me, but I could see him doing that to throw people like me off.
2. Breshke- GB was suspicious of you, I'm suspicious of you. You were on me after I felt mafia knew I was tracker.
3. Geript- I could see Geript pulling off killing Waffle as mafia and thinking he could get away with it. Plus GB didn't like him.
4. DP- This is more based on what other people have said about DP being the #3 if LM and Trfel are Scum.



Who did you track? I know you got RBd, but who were you going to track?

^That mirrors my PoE, too, though I don't see why geript would move a train off a town onto another town. Can you explain why you think he could still be scum? To me that seems too risky unless he's super confident he'll get townread for it even though he was saying he didn't like WW as the lynch earlier.


Ugh sorry sis. Laptop issues xD keyboard need to come in soon xD

I tracked Breske, first thought about LM but seeing how the thread was going I figured Breshke would be a better choice. I was looking for the suspicious quiet types.

Only reasons I could see why Geript would make the vote go to Waffle:

1. Waffle was getting towned by most despite limited posts. Could be a hard sell to lynch (although I guess not due to geripts influence)
2. Bragging rights. Got us all to vote him based on "not the best" logic.
3. He started the GB train. GB was on to him. Could look bad. I feel like this isn't the vet play though.
4. Shifts the lynch on to me without voting for me. Causes me to either die or claim blue. If he was mafia he would probably know I was blue by that point. I'd have to admit I didn't do the best job of hiding it. If I was cop, they might have tried to kill me N1 instead of someone else. They would know for sure if I claimed.
5. He looks a little bad, but do you notice how many people think he's still town? He probably wouldn't see it as that much of a risk.

Obviously these are all hypotheticals. I don't know if he is town or mafia. But its not like he had 0 reasons to switch right?


...This one. The others don't make sense...but 4 is worth investigating. I think they could RB you regardless, cop or tracker, but this one...

I have to remember this when I'm going back through the votes. GB, right, was the train? You were the other. He tried to get people off of GB onto WW. It's untraceable to him if he doesn't get enough people to actually lynch WW and therefore lynches you by default, and he probably wouldn't have gotten enough if you didn't claim. And he didn't want to lynch WW before, on top of that.

It verifies you as blue if they're suspecting that you are, or gets you lynched. Damn, bro. There is a possible scum motive for that wagon switch after all.

...okay. Gonna have to think on this one ><. The town to town switch was my main reason for townreading him with some of the other things he's done. Tomorrow I'll look at it more in depth to see if it actually jives with the EoD voting.


I have to go back and check as well. I remember thinking, REALLY?! when the Waffle switch happened but I don't remember if it was geripts vote that actually got me in the bind.


jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 22:37 GMT
#1129
On January 21 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
I still here JarJar who you think is the entire scum team and why?


Honestly I need to read again. I feel like my reads are stale. My thoughts really haven't progressed since last night.

I like everyone else believe in your Trfel read. I voted LM at beginning of D1 but it seems like everyone likes LM as scum and LM isn't here to defend himself. Makes me worry. Still I'll have him as #2 now and go through the stuff again to see if I still like it.

#3 Could be Geript, I need to read over some stuff on him. Breshke could be it, but having two lurkers and Trfel on a mafia team seems like not the smartest. I figured there'd be somebody more vocal, but RNG picks the people I guess. Those would be my top two choices for #3.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 20 2015 22:41 GMT
#1130
On January 21 2015 07:37 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
I still here JarJar who you think is the entire scum team and why?


Honestly I need to read again. I feel like my reads are stale. My thoughts really haven't progressed since last night.

I like everyone else believe in your Trfel read. I voted LM at beginning of D1 but it seems like everyone likes LM as scum and LM isn't here to defend himself. Makes me worry. Still I'll have him as #2 now and go through the stuff again to see if I still like it.

#3 Could be Geript, I need to read over some stuff on him. Breshke could be it, but having two lurkers and Trfel on a mafia team seems like not the smartest. I figured there'd be somebody more vocal, but RNG picks the people I guess. Those would be my top two choices for #3.

I was the only vocal scum member vs your sister since the rest of the team was afk . So pretty much we going to lynch LM next Day Phase and try and get the 3rd member ASAP.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 23:11 GMT
#1131
Sorry LS I think I will murder my laptop soon. It specifically hates this game.

Ya I guess the game doesn't pick an optimal scum team. Did you mean in your game where you were mafia?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 23:18 GMT
#1132
@Rsoultin

I looked at the votes. Definitely doesn't conclusively show that Geript switched to screw me.

Right before he switched I had 4 and GB had 6. His switch made it GB-5 me-4. LS switched to me about 10 seconds later. THEN others followed. I mean it is possible that he did switch to screw me, but he would have had to figure people would get off the GB train if he switched and/or saw that the GB train was losing traction.

Damdred was hard bussing me. It is possible he saw it coming, but he was definitely not the only factor in putting me on the chopblock.

And thanks again for defending me at EOD! You get some more bro brownie points lolz
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 20 2015 23:20 GMT
#1133
Although it is worth noting that LM recently had put my vote tally to four right before the Geript switch. Not specifically RIGHT before, but a few minutes before.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 23:38:41
January 20 2015 23:38 GMT
#1134
Day 2: Current Vote Count

Trfel (7): LightningStrike, DarthPunk, Breshke, Damdred, rsoultin, jarjarbinks, The Shining

Not Voting (3): Trfel, LoneMeow, geript

Currently, Trfel is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2015 23:41 GMT
#1135
On January 21 2015 08:20 jarjarbinks wrote:
Although it is worth noting that LM recently had put my vote tally to four right before the Geript switch. Not specifically RIGHT before, but a few minutes before.


I'm not really buying this tinfoil theory on geript trying to get you lynched by switching to WW. I think he could have easily just switched to you pre claim instead of having to have so many things fall into place.

I also really don't think geript is mafia. I still need to reread him but the fact that he is town reading me or at least not wanting to lynch me like im not in his team of three makes me think he is more likely town. This is because thread sentiment right now is that LM is mafia and the third is me/DP. Geript however has had a town read on DP that he is fairly sure he is right on so the path of least resistance for him would be to scum read me. That isn't the case though as his scumteam instead has damdred in it.

I do need to look into him however because assuming he would take the path of least resistance is scum is not always going to be correct especially if he is a vet or good player or whatever.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 20 2015 23:42 GMT
#1136
So Damdred was hard bussing you JJB?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 20 2015 23:43 GMT
#1137
Like I'm already having a bad day. I know you're a newbie, but I really can't get my mind past you saying that a Damdred was hard bussing you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 20 2015 23:53 GMT
#1138
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 20 2015 23:56 GMT
#1139
Ok I really need to see LM in here. Still no post since the vote but no one is questioning it. I'd like to see his defense, if any. EoD actions, lack of contribution, disinterest in the game and scumhunting. I know I risk basically parroting thread sentiment here but even if he isn't reading the thread, he should be able to read and respond to these things and he hasn't even done that.

RSo, this is my 2nd TL game with you. I'm realizing it is a little different and lot more difficult than it is where we met. So I do believe I could correctly scumread you if I had to. Right now, I have to ask myself if I could see you bussing Trfel on D1 with all that early pressure, as well as maintaining a sizeable filter afterward that looks like active scumhunting and questioning. You keep trying to figure out the game while looking at things from both sides, particularly this post.(quote in spoiler)

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 20 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't lynch:

Geript, GB, dam dried, in counterclaimed blues.

Everyone else is on the table.

Also fuck phone posting and auto correct.


-snorts- seriously? you can't narrow it down more than the obvious ones? after going through everyone's filters? this is pretty disappointing.

Okay, well...

Trfel, LM for the reasons I described earlier...then look into DP/Breshke

unless it turns out JJB false-claimed, in which case:

Trfel, JJB...then look into Geript/LM/Breshke

At least, that's what I would do. Everyone else I'm more or less townreading, and geript should be townread unless one of those wagons were scum. Then he's on the table again.


This came before the EoN post. If she were scum, this would be the hardest bus since D1 ever. She can't know LS was going to come up with a red check on him.

Geript, read into you as well. I went from unlynchable to a tad suspicious for the wagon on WW but, like it was mentioned before, I'm not sure I see a scum motive for moving a town wagon onto another town. I think you might be putting more weight into your faith into DP due to past experience and his play than you should be but I feel that may actually be a Townie trait. I somewhat feel the same about Damdred right now. I know his playstyle and this is one of the stronger townreads I've gotten on him.

Also, RSo's last post said it'd look into JJB's reasoning for your wagon switch being scum driven. I looked at your EoD posts and it doesn't feel that way to me. Geript didn't pull the wagon from GB to WW half-heartedly or waiting for JJB's to take over. He posted 9 times trying very hard to get WW lynched after casing him, he didn't just afk it. Like I mentioned before, this reminds me exactly of how WW was tunneled last game. Tube did it and ended up flipping VT. I'm not sure where in this scenario Geript would've managed to get JJB lynched when he was actively trying to put all votes on WW.

Tldr: Looked into both of you like I wanted to and I think I'm right in thinking scum would be content pushing a mislynch on either of you.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 21 2015 00:03 GMT
#1140
OK I'm here all day on and off cause im not working.

Gonna read the game again. If anyone wants to chat feel free.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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