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On January 21 2015 09:53 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, I thought that we were supposed to post at least once every phase, not once every 48 hours. I had a bunch of work to do, I finished some of it, I will be be back and post more tonight.
Sorry, I didn't realize that I would be so busy.
This lynch wagon is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that everyone is voting to lynch me. Just because I am trying to change my play and figure out how the game works? That doesn't make any sense at all. I care enough to try different things and see what works. Evidently this didn't work.
You guys are seriously believing the guy who claimed cop? First of all, he started the game completely nonsensical, and somehow got townread, and then changed his behavior completely. Why would town do anything different after they get townread? I can't decide if he is simply a town liar or if he is a mafia trying to get a townie lynched, but I'm inclined to think the latter. If you don't listen to me know, hopefully you will at least lynch him next after I flip. A one to one change with a mafia is a pretty good result for a townie.
I'll look into some other scum options, but this wagon on me is really giving a lot away. I'm pretty sure that the mafia team is leading it.
Lol xP Gotta give you props for the attempt truffle <3
I will say this, though. If LS is lying, you can rest easy in that you'll be avenged.
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On January 21 2015 09:52 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.
I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.
I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.
I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.
I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter. No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you. But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point. That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another. If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh. The rational between those two posts is entirely different. No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane. You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh. Then why not state I was obv town as the reason you were not going to read my alignment in the context of discussing my alignment with Geript? Instead you said my alignment was 'not one way or the other' and that you Didn;t want to read my posts because they were meh. So which was it? Was I obv town and that is the reason not to read my filter or was it 'not one way or the other' and Meh posting that was the reason not to read my filter? Your story is shaky as fuck.
Not really sure what you want me to say, Geripts post was good but I didn't think it made you scum. Your posting style is meh to me.
I said later in the thread that you were obv town because of what I read when I was reading town, both truths can exist at the same time
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On January 21 2015 09:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:48 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it. The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch. There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town. When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process. Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all. This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then. I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure. That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play. I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok LS always hyperfocuses on meta. -_- I find it hard to believe you've failed to notice that. Just like I find it hard to believe you missed Trfel's EXTREME play change. It's not stupid. Just as it isn't stupid that you townread GB all through the game, then with apparently no explanation said maybe he could be a good lynch? How does that make sense? It certainly doesn't to me. Where did you first start thinking GB was boring, may I ask? Maybe I just missed that part when I went back into your filter before EoD. LS focusing on meta is good, LS ASKING someone else my meta isn't good. There is a distinct difference between the two. GB was boring before he pushed me, a boring GB is scum. When GB barely does anything hes boring, he didn't really do anything until he pushed me.
Hmmm I may be overreading the GB part, a skim didn't show me what I thought I read earlier o.0 which is weird. I could be wrong on that. Anyway, I think since we have this much time I'm gonna go solo on the analysis for a bit cause I get easily distracted in-thread.
If anyone has questions for me, I'll be around to answer, though.
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On January 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
Unless your point geript is that mafia does tend to pick on the fumbling newbies in this game as the easy mislynches xP Which I would have to agree with from personal experience, limited though that is.
No. My point is that what you're reading me town for makes me nothing. Like if I'm mafia I could be trying to get a blue lynched. Like that's such a god awful reason to read me as town. Like read me town for what I've done in the game that matters. Leading or not leading a vote on town/mafia isn't alignment indicative. Last minute shenannies or no do not make me or anyone else anything.
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On January 21 2015 10:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
Unless your point geript is that mafia does tend to pick on the fumbling newbies in this game as the easy mislynches xP Which I would have to agree with from personal experience, limited though that is. No. My point is that what you're reading me town for makes me nothing. Like if I'm mafia I could be trying to get a blue lynched. Like that's such a god awful reason to read me as town. Like read me town for what I've done in the game that matters. Leading or not leading a vote on town/mafia isn't alignment indicative. Last minute shenannies or no do not make me or anyone else anything.
Your analysis was too good as a scum coach who already knew the scum team for me to say definitively that those two posts alone make you town, geript. But I will look closer at you, too. No worries. I'm usually better at identifying town than I am at identifying scum >< usually.
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Fake claiming cop wouldn't necesarily be bad play by mafia. It's also mechanical play to some extent.
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You really think that's likely on Day 2, geript? I'd think it would be more likely in lylo.
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It is kinda odd that he doesn't flat out call alas mafia.
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On January 21 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
You really think that's likely on Day 2, geript? I'd think it would be more likely in lylo.
No. Not really. But it's not bad play. Like if you can get town to waste two days discussion it's quite good play in fact. Doesn't really make sense from LS point in the game but not unreasonable.
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If LS is not counterclaimed then he is the cop. If Trefl flips green we lynch LS.
LS doesn't even need to be counterclaimed at this point cause he claimed with a red check.
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On January 21 2015 10:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
You really think that's likely on Day 2, geript? I'd think it would be more likely in lylo. No. Not really. But it's not bad play. Like if you can get town to waste two days discussion it's quite good play in fact. Doesn't really make sense from LS point in the game but not unreasonable.
Hm. Maybe. I'd expect something that bold with scum's back against the wall, though, rather than just sacrificing a scummate out of the blue. Was anyone really in so much danger that a Day 2 lynch would be inevitable?
Maybe it's just how I play scum, but I'd rather not lose members unless I have to. Makes it harder to win.
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The only problem is if LS is fake and red checked a partner then we lynch trfel. A doc claims D3 and we only have 2 mislynches until we lose so we could theoretically lynch jarjar and the doc incorrectly. But that seems like a very thought out play and im not sure if mafia goes for it.
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On January 21 2015 09:08 geript wrote:
Like JJB literally just was 100% wrong. Damdred never really heavily pushed JJB. He procrastinates on reading him for like half the day then lackadaisically tells people to vote for him. Like there's never even a good reason for Damdred to even say the shit he is other than his flipfloppery on GB (town-mafia-town).
Plus JJB is literally claiming mafia with Damdred. Idk. I'll think about this more but I can't fathom a reason JJB says anything like that as town.
In the least, we lynch Trfel and have more time to think about it.
##vote Trfel
my bad I thought bussing was like heavily pushing xD
He definitely was telling everyone to vote me though.
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On January 21 2015 10:22 Breshke wrote:
The only problem is if LS is fake and red checked a partner then we lynch trfel. A doc claims D3 and we only have 2 mislynches until we lose so we could theoretically lynch jarjar and the doc incorrectly. But that seems like a very thought out play and im not sure if mafia goes for it.
It's possible, I suppose. Ballsy but possible.
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After I die, PLEASE lynch LightningStrike.... Don't lynch jarjarbinks. He is new, but he isn't scum. Seriously, read his play from last game and you will understand. His filter looks fine to me.
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We wont ever lynch JarJarBinks unless someone claims another blue and no one else claimed blue either on me or JarJar so sorry bud but your time is up!
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On January 21 2015 11:02 Trfel wrote:
After I die, PLEASE lynch LightningStrike.... Don't lynch jarjarbinks. He is new, but he isn't scum. Seriously, read his play from last game and you will understand. His filter looks fine to me.
Why would we lynch even think of lynching jarjar if you flipped green which i what i assume you are trying to sell.
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Trfel if you are really town and LS is mafia which is highly doubtful. You should leave us with some form of last will or do something towny which you aren't doing.
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On January 21 2015 13:03 Damdred wrote:
Trfel if you are really town and LS is mafia which is highly doubtful. You should leave us with some form of last will or do something towny which you aren't doing.
I have so much homework... I would love to....
First is lynch LightningStrike.
After that I'm not really sure. I'd have to take a look at who started leading my lynch and why. DarthPunk jumped on my wagon pretty quickly, as did Breshke. But DarthPunk defended me earlier, which I don't understand when he is willing to lynch me now.
As for lurkers, LoneMeow and The Shining are probably the biggest options. I am still scumreading LoneMeow pretty heavily. His inactivity is really scummy, and I posted my case earlier. Sneaking under the lynch didn't help. The Shining, on the other hand, seems rather towny. He hasn't posted that much, but I do like the analysis that he has provided, and I can forgive the lack of activity.
Hopefully I can be on more tomorrow and help share the lynch list.
I suppose it's probably too much to ask to spare myself from being lynched, but I hope that you guys can still manage to win the game, with LYLO coming up soon. Would it help to save myself if I claimed?
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Let's start the counterwagon.
##Vote: LightningStrike
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