1 Looking at the category where Silver is telling the truth, you have ExO and Tube at the bottom, but controlling for them possibly being GF. You say ExO's actions are more likely to make him GF. Can you expand on this?
2 Partial extension of #1 - it seems like for the other reads you have this 3% buffer based on subjectivity. You subtracted 2% from Shining for instance. Can you explain why such a small buffer for the others, but seemingly a larger one for ExO? I mean you go from 11% (or 1/11 as you say) to 35%?
That looks like a double standard to me. If something jumped out at you, please explain.
Am I reading you wrong? It seems like you are putting in numbers based on voting and scumreads?
I am struggling to find context for your numbers yet again, and by the looks of it, Tube is as well.
Alright JJB, time to step it up. Please answer all the relevant questions. Several have commented on the subjectivity part of it and there's yet to be an acceptable response.
On January 12 2015 22:46 Half the Sky wrote: JJB - your turn.
Your formulas.
1 Looking at the category where Silver is telling the truth, you have ExO and Tube at the bottom, but controlling for them possibly being GF. You say ExO's actions are more likely to make him GF. Can you expand on this?
2 Partial extension of #1 - it seems like for the other reads you have this 3% buffer based on subjectivity. You subtracted 2% from Shining for instance. Can you explain why such a small buffer for the others, but seemingly a larger one for ExO? I mean you go from 11% (or 1/11 as you say) to 35%?
That looks like a double standard to me. If something jumped out at you, please explain.
Am I reading you wrong? It seems like you are putting in numbers based on voting and scumreads?
I am struggling to find context for your numbers yet again, and by the looks of it, Tube is as well.
The fact is, this is D3, so you've had a few days over now to explain the numbers in a way that make sense in context. After 3 days and trying to work through things we have to question why you are sticking to the methods that you are when we don't know how to use it and interpret it. I have tried just personally interpreting what you've put forth for the second straight day. In these games if questions go answered, we have to ask what you are hiding.
GG WP everyone. To my fellow scumteam, you were wonderful.
Geript and Sicklucker, your advice was priceless. Massive, massive shoutout for taking the time to work with us. I've learnt a lot to be a better player regardless of alignment.
To the townspeople I helped get lynched, I'm sorry. It's not personal. I just wanted to be Nina Myers this game, in every sense of the word
For you Rasputin...
Our scumteam theme song was LMFAO's "Shots" As you'll see written in Scum QT One shot for every townie nightkilled Three shots for every townie mislynched And endgame? Finish the bottle I suppose.
Again, it's true. I was 100% scum this go. But I'm not a horrible person. I swear. GGs.
On January 13 2015 09:10 jarjarbinks wrote: I think I will never say the word "number" again in this game! Although I definitely will be using them!
I'll tell you one word I don't ever want to hear again: tinfoil hat.
I have never heard that word ever and when Tube started using it I was panicking in our QT because I looked it up and I was still confused as to what he was saying. GG American slang.
On January 13 2015 09:16 Damdred wrote: Seriously though why wouldn't you guys listen to shining about how there cannot be a medic and a vet in a twelve person game. Especially when newb 12 person games generally only have 2 roles in it, crazy LS didn't talk about this. Medic+vet is way to town favored lol
I'm surprised that no one in my Student Mafia game brought up the Student Mafia example up - only two power roles, closed setup. 100% would have blown Celestial out of the water.
On January 13 2015 09:31 geript wrote: Also @Kita. I'm going to recommend HalftheSky for Most Impressive Newbie Performance. Essentially no one actually scumread him all game and he was able to push lynches from odd angles. While he wasn't a Mocsta running the show, he in many ways pushed people to decide lynches that were heavily in his favor. Plus, by the end of the game he wasn't in my scumreads despite being a coach.
I'm honoured, thank you...but honestly I'm so glad to have had you two as coaches.
Geript, fantastic, fantastic analysis. I definitely made a few rubbish/useless/contradictory posts, so I'll have to work on that so as not to get annihilated by the vets!
Finally managed to read through the other QTs during lunch...
First, Trfel, cheers. You know how to read people well. WP. Sicklucker called for your head in scum QT D1. I did not agree with it initially but there was enough fear of a Rasputin medic save that we ultimately took his advise. What made you think I was scum? PoE?
Second, <3 you Celestial. I had a load of fun playing alongside you, and I know whilst this game was frustrating, I honestly hope you come back for another, RNG town and have a good time.
In some of the other QTs I'd seen comments on me. One of the coaches had commented (I think it was LoneMeow) they saw multiple red flags but they couldn't figure out whether it was beginner play or if it was because I was scum. I was curious as to what may have stuck out. I know there were some WTF moments N2 on the mechanics debates, but I had trouble grasping those in Carol as well. I tend to overthink those regardless of alignment.
Also in one of the QTs, someone had complained that Tubesock and myself were making comments on coaches. Yikes. If I'd been told in scum QT or in thread, that would have stopped immediately on my end.
On January 14 2015 00:29 Tubesock wrote: @HTS I used tinfoil hat theory for stuff that I thought was true but knew it was based on bad reasoning or for something I couldn't explain or convince anyone about. I figured if I threw it out there, people would talk about it and I maybe able to find something.
It started with me thinking LS and Shining were town, both who were largely scumread. In my N1 post I intentionally left -Celestial- outside of the bullet pointed townlist but I didn't have any reasons to scum him really until later. Everyone but Trfel towned him.
Ah, no, no. "Tinfoil hat"...I had mentioned in scum QT to Celestial it was a language barrier. I got even more frustrated after looking it up on Urban Dictionary, it made even less sense. I know what a conspiracy theory is. But not that it was the same as tinfoil hat, much less I understood why it's called "tinfoil hat" until Celestial explained in our QT.
So no, I had no issue with you using conspiracy theories at all, more what it was called.
EPT
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