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ExO...you're repeating yourself -_- And you're not answering my question to you. I just...you're frustrating me -_- | ||
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On January 08 2015 14:33 ExO_ wrote: I'm mad at WW for bad play. He has a blue role. but he's inactive as hell, and when he does post his reads are bad and filled with wrong information. Then he soft claims blue when he's about to die. I know I'd try to fake claim if I was a mafia and looking like the inevitable lynch, and that's what this looked like to me. So I'm mad that an important town player couldn't take the time to play the game, potentially fucking the rest of us over. I didn't switch my vote over to him because I didn't need to. But I was around at EoD and you better believe I was watching for last second shenanigans. If I saw people moving votes at the last second, I would've jumped on to the WW train. I still believe LS was the better vote. I still believe LS is scum now. But the case on WW was decent in my opinion. This is the first time you mention making a vote change, ExO, after I questioned your reaction to the flip. You didn't leading up to EoD. If you did, please link me to it, because I'm not seeing it. I'm sorry, but anyone can concoct a story later. | ||
ExO_
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Nobody tried to disturb the status quo, meaning I might've been on the wrong track about LS. However I really did think LS was going to flip scum, and that mafia were heavily bussing. | ||
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On January 11 2015 07:37 rsoultin wrote: This is the first time you mention making a vote change, ExO, after I questioned your reaction to the flip. You didn't leading up to EoD. If you did, please link me to it, because I'm not seeing it. I'm sorry, but anyone can concoct a story later. On January 08 2015 14:33 ExO_ wrote: I'm mad at WW for bad play. He has a blue role. but he's inactive as hell, and when he does post his reads are bad and filled with wrong information. Then he soft claims blue when he's about to die. I know I'd try to fake claim if I was a mafia and looking like the inevitable lynch, and that's what this looked like to me. So I'm mad that an important town player couldn't take the time to play the game, potentially fucking the rest of us over. I didn't switch my vote over to him because I didn't need to. But I was around at EoD and you better believe I was watching for last second shenanigans. If I saw people moving votes at the last second, I would've jumped on to the WW train. I still believe LS was the better vote. I still believe LS is scum now. But the case on WW was decent in my opinion. Check the date | ||
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ExO_
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And yeah that's the first time I mentioned a vote change. No vote shenanigans went down, so I didn't need to change my vote. If you're working from the assumption I'm scum, think about that for a second. Why would I bother telling everyone I thought the case on WW was fine and I would've switched my vote to him? If I'm scum, I have my vote stuck on another person and can argue that I really thought they were scum and that's why I didn't switch. Why wouldn't I just jump on the train initially? It doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On January 11 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote: Nobody tried to disturb the status quo, meaning I might've been on the wrong track about LS. However I really did think LS was going to flip scum, and that mafia were heavily bussing. So all that statement meant was that you could be wrong? Then why did you say we'd have a "much better idea" in 15 minutes? Again, it's not to be super picky about wording, but that implies you actually thought that there was some sort of significance to LS flipping town and you and Tube pushing Celestial earlier. We'd know in 15 minutes whether LS was town or scum. We'd have a much better idea of what? | ||
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That's bugging me. It's like you wanted him to settle there even though your choice was LS. | ||
ExO_
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On January 11 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote: It doesn't make any sense that with your vote parked on LS and trfel saying he was voting for LS, that you started arguing with him that the WW wagon had merit. That's bugging me. It's like you wanted him to settle there even though your choice was LS. Who was I arguing with that the WW wagon had merit exactly? | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:59 ExO_ wrote: I'm not sure I agree that it's a policy lynch. Go read his big read post. None of it makes any sense whatsoever. Its blatantly wrong about a lot of players thus far. Read it and then come back and say it's still just a policy lynch. That's the post I'm referring to. Am I misinterpreting it? | ||
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On January 11 2015 07:48 rsoultin wrote: So all that statement meant was that you could be wrong? Then why did you say we'd have a "much better idea" in 15 minutes? Again, it's not to be super picky about wording, but that implies you actually thought that there was some sort of significance to LS flipping town and you and Tube pushing Celestial earlier. We'd know in 15 minutes whether LS was town or scum. We'd have a much better idea of what? I'm not sure what you're getting caught up on. We'll have a much better idea of what the game looks like after LS flipped, one way or the other. | ||
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It just read to me like you had somewhere to go, some sort of read, analysis, something, that would have followed from an LS town flip. I mean...what really did that lynch by itself say? At least looking at the votes it just says everyone piled on LS when we shouldn't have -_-. So I was expecting some sort of follow-up that never came :/ | ||
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On January 11 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote: That's the post I'm referring to. Am I misinterpreting it? Well you made it sound like I'm pushing him off LS onto WW. That's not the case. I thought the case on WW was decent based on the fact that his reads were just plain horrible and wrong. It most certainly was not a policy lynch which was the main point I was trying to make. You've taken that, and turned it into me telling somebody not to vote for one of my scum targets. | ||
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On January 11 2015 08:18 rsoultin wrote: -squints at- It just read to me like you had somewhere to go, some sort of read, analysis, something, that would have followed from an LS town flip. I mean...what really did that lynch by itself say? At least looking at the votes it just says everyone piled on LS when we shouldn't have -_-. So I was expecting some sort of follow-up that never came :/ What I really thought was going to happen, is LS flips scum. This would've meant mafia bussed him heavily. Then we could've gone back and looked at where the votes ended day 1 and figured out who was bussing. On day 1 it looks like the mafia spread their votes out, then day 2 piled them all on the same target. I thought based on day 1, mafia would try to spread their votes out again, and we'd only see a pileup like that if they were bussing. | ||
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Do you have any reads now? A possible way ahead? LS was your main push, and Celestial you were scumreading Day 2, so who would be your possible lynch(es) Day 3? | ||
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On January 11 2015 08:21 ExO_ wrote: What I really thought was going to happen, is LS flips scum. This would've meant mafia bussed him heavily. Then we could've gone back and looked at where the votes ended day 1 and figured out who was bussing. On day 1 it looks like the mafia spread their votes out, then day 2 piled them all on the same target. I thought based on day 1, mafia would try to spread their votes out again, and we'd only see a pileup like that if they were bussing. Gosh this is eating at me. You said that his flipping town would be telling though >< And yeah, of course if he flipped scum it was a massive buss. Every single player was on him o.0. | ||
ExO_
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On January 11 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote: Gosh this is eating at me. You said that his flipping town would be telling though >< And yeah, of course if he flipped scum it was a massive buss. Every single player was on him o.0. Because I'm considering multiple scenarios? From my point of view right now you are trying to nit pick everything I said and hopefully something makes everyone think I'm scum. I'm not. I've done my best to help town, and yeah my read on LS was wrong. But I'm not getting a lot of help from anybody else. | ||
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