Nice! GL HF everyone! SO EXCITED!!!!!

Trfel, FFS, put the noose away...unless you are claiming scum.

Celestial, welcome, and glad to see another LDer frequent this area. I remember you from the Dota QQ thread hehe. There's a few others here too, but they don't play too often.
Best of luck with your thesis, you deserve the finish line after so much hard work. Hopefully a good job/position somewhere nice afterwards.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 04 2015 01:02 GMT

#145

<3 Shining. I'll keep Trfel and Tube away from you

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Germany9029 Posts

January 04 2015 05:28 GMT

#150

I have a hunch Trfel is going to RNG scum this game. You heard it here first.

*takes Trfel's noose and gently places it around his neck*

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 00:12 GMT

#158

Negative, LS, about as straightforward as this can be. We need to burn scum before they burn us.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 00:45 GMT

#163

LOL Rasputin, I'm not anxious. I'm very determined to find the scummers and sniff them out. Damn straight I'm town, but here's the thing - It's one thing to be town, but it's another to step up and do something about it. And that's what I was driving at.

We have a lot of new players in this game, most have not played a game here, so we definitely need to see how things pan out. If you know any information Rasputin on any of the players you've played with in some of your other non-TL games (since it seems you've recruited a few of them here), give us a shout.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 12:56 GMT

#191

Shining, I read through Rasputin's filter and I don't see where he's trying to ferret out roles. What bothers me about your post is that you mention "questioning every one of us in the hope of a slip"...and that's what town should be doing. If questioning people gets them to reveal alignment-indicative information, then all the better. Why does this seem to be an issue?

Silverarte and Tubesock, what do both of you think of any the others who have posted so far?

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 13:14 GMT

#193

JarJarBinks, you had said on the previous page that you "would read and stuff". You post again now, saying "reading is hard."

I'll be honest, even if you were sarcastic there, you don't look good to me right now either because you don't give me the impression you want to scumhunt. Even with your computer broken, as you say, you still put in a few sentences on how you feel.

Your response to ExO indicates you are otherwise caught up on the thread, so aside from your question to him, why not a few lines on what you think of the 2 1/2 pages since beginning?

That shouldn't be too difficult from mobile.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 14:27 GMT

#201

First post in first game, I will also give you, Gumdrop, the BOTD for now. I am still interested in your reads.

Lightning, your thoughts on any of the new players that have posted so far?

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 14:29 GMT

#202

EBWOP - Just saw Celestial's massive post. Reading through...

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 15:18 GMT

#211

LS, unless I am misreading your sentence, moderator situations are not alignment indicative, but that aside, Celestial looks good for the most part for the in-depth analysis. I am a little surprised though you mentioned you had nothing alignment indicative on any of the veterans.

Celestial I have a question for you regarding your read on Rasputin. Since Shining also commented on bluehunting, was there something in the content that jumped at you or was it just his manner of scumhunting that indicated bluehunting?

Having played with Rasputin before, and taking on a proper D1 meta read, particularly from Carol, my impression was that he will ask questions if something sounds weird, if I recall right, he threw around many posts at people as he criticised circular reasoning and lack of explanations (which happened loads in that game), but didn't go as far to read scum let alone vote people for poor reasoning in of itself.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 15:40 GMT

#213

My reads so far (starting with the new players):

ExO appears to have picked up on a few things, but I feel he also needs to post more, so neutral to leaning town on him at the moment.

I am leaning scum on Shining for questioning the questioning that might lead to a scumslip. I don't agree with the bluehunting comment, but that was the lesser of my concerns.

JarJar, I am null leaning scum given his seeming lack of desire to scumhunt. I felt I made a good comparison basis (the comments he did post and the fact he did read what ExO mentioned to him) even with his excuses. That read could change once I see something more substantial, though on a separate note, I hope he recovers.

Silverarte, Gumdrop, are null for me, with little to go off at this point in time.

Rasputin is town for me, his game so far is largely similar to his previous town games. His reads are not always correct, but I'm seeing the scumhunting and probing I'm used to.

Tubesock needs to step it up IMO, D1 is not an excuse to slack off, but I won't scumread him yet. His first two posts are not alignment indicative and the third post, first paragraph regarding mislynches reads as factual to me, so again, not alignment indicative.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 15:48 GMT

#215

Thought I said it in the post before my reads...Celestial is reading town to me although based on meta, I feel he is off target on Rasputin.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 15:51 GMT

#216

EBWOP - To clarify, that should read "although based on Rasputin's meta, I feel Celestial is off target on Rasputin."

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 16:17 GMT

#219

On January 06 2015 01:10 ExO_ wrote:
Also I read through the setup and its my understanding we dont actually know the number of scum. Is this correct, and if so 3 would be the right number to assume correct?

ExO, my understanding as well. I'm not an expert in game balance/mechanics, but I'm going to assume 3 based on the fact that my student IV game was 3 scum for 13 players.

For larger normal games such as Carol, Vivax called a formula where scum was total nr of players divided by 5 (there were 5 for 26 players total in that game), but since this is a mini, only 2 players might seem small.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 05 2015 21:52 GMT

#233

I didn't know you were also female, Rasputin. Sorry about that, I feel a tad embarrassed having played a few games with you and not knowing that.

Not only does Shining owe a followup but so does Silverarte, JarJar and Gumdrop, to various posters' questions.

I do understand the differentiating point you made with Shining though. What would further bother me about him and the rest mentioned though is if there was a continued pattern of not answering questions, even after more activity.

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Germany9029 Posts

January 06 2015 00:10 GMT

#241

Shining, to answer what you had brought up:

On January 06 2015 07:57 The Shining wrote:
WarWaffle questioned a few things in HTS's opening posts and I've yet to see any sort of response to him, although HTS has posted a few times since.

A lot of the points regarding Waffle's read on me were already answered for by Rasputin, LS, and Trfel. Putting it into my own words, my post was worded in response to Ras's second post:

On January 05 2015 09:35 rsoultin wrote:
nope, not implying she's scum, just implying she's awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum

Which means, yes, I did take the anxious part to be her main point, which Waffle said otherwise.

On January 05 2015 19:40 TheWarWaffle wrote:
The first thing she puts emphasis on is the fact that she isn't anxious when it wasn't rsoultin's primary point.

The pronoun issue in the second paragraph was already accounted for by Trfel, LS and Ras.

That all said, Waffle still gets a slight town read from me for the effort he's taken to read my post to the best of his knowledge, even if the read was inaccurate. He doesn't know my meta, so I cannot fault him for that.