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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 01 2015 19:50 GMT
#1001
On January 02 2015 04:33 marvellosity wrote:
lol is your argument that I called you suspicious (without knowing if i thought you were scummy) in order to later push a lynch on you in case you caught me?

is that really it?

It has to do with your mentality at the time. Initially I thought ScumMarv would want to push me (for funsies). But reading into what you're thinking is kinda how I read you.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:50 GMT
#1002
plus this:
On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote:
Mr DrH what do you think about this:

First TheChyz posts this:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the tahread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.

I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive.

I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him.
##Vote: Lazermonkey


And he earned town points for it:

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him.


Then later he posts this:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


And gets more town points:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.

I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right?

It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense.

I feel better about Chyz for this post




Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points?


if he got town points from eden he got town points from you for the same thing seeing as you both liked thechyz as town for the same reason. but you never really gave your reason why you thought that post made him town in the first place, just parroting eden. if he got town points from you that would imply you genuinely believed it was a town-indicative post so why would that be suspicious in the first place?

wouldn't the more natural conclusion be that thechyz was just trying to ape the town sentiment anyway? that's not really the same thing, this is a really awkward and conspiratorial argument
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 01 2015 19:51 GMT
#1003
On January 02 2015 04:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:48 Koshi wrote:
Superbia/batsnacks/geript/Lazermonkey/GlowingBear

ezgame ezlife

Why is Superbia scum and RoL isn't?

1 posted and 1 didn't.

Incorrect.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:51 GMT
#1004
On January 02 2015 04:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:33 marvellosity wrote:
lol is your argument that I called you suspicious (without knowing if i thought you were scummy) in order to later push a lynch on you in case you caught me?

is that really it?

It has to do with your mentality at the time. Initially I thought ScumMarv would want to push me (for funsies). But reading into what you're thinking is kinda how I read you.

So what you're saying it was your intention to paint or see him as scum from the beginning? why would you be thinking that before knowing anything about his alignment. you omgus'd a null read
RIP Aaliyah
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 19:52 GMT
#1005
On January 02 2015 04:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:50 Koshi wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:48 Koshi wrote:
Superbia/batsnacks/geript/Lazermonkey/GlowingBear

ezgame ezlife

Why is Superbia scum and RoL isn't?

1 posted and 1 didn't.

Incorrect.

ow. embarrassing.

But I feel like I got to stick to my initial reads.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 19:52 GMT
#1006
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:52 GMT
#1007
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything
RIP Aaliyah
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 01 2015 19:53 GMT
#1008
On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi again.

I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can.

As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch!

LOL WHAT? (about bolded part) If you can show me any proof that you "tunneled on me" I'm more than happy to hear it, but are you being sorry for trying to get a read on me? Only person that can say they tunneled on me is dr.H. It seems like your trying to just back up because your getting some flame and to save yourself.
And the second paragraph is like UGH. just gives me the creeps.

Later on you go on to say that your cool with killing geript and such and one of your main reasons is that "he wants to wait for vets". Like thats not allignment indicative at all. You can take that to mean shit all, especially since it was near the start of the game. When artanis clears up why koshi is towny then he just drops his case. It's like hes just jumping from wagon to wagon and giving soft reads and dropping them asap. Super wishy washy.

Even tho I don't like geript atm it is more based on the fact that I have seen nothing similar to either his town game when I played with him and also in the game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia?user=geript&page=2 where you can see that he is scum hunting. But this game he isn't and while that is cause for some alarm I think laser is much more scummy than geript atm. Although I don't at all like his top scum reads (especially since I think keslier is really towny).

I'd be fine with a geript or laser lynch but I feel that laser > geript.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:53 GMT
#1009
On January 02 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.

any thoughts on my two posts about bats? i feel like his reads are forced or just one size fits all throwaways
RIP Aaliyah
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 19:54 GMT
#1010
On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything

Jeezus didn't explain anything when he wispered it in my ear.

You should trust me like I trust Jeezus. Our Lord and Savior.
I had a good night of sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 01 2015 19:54 GMT
#1011
On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 01 2015 19:55 GMT
#1012
On January 02 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.

Good idea. Maybe that helps me with my lynch list. It is still way to big.
Regarding batsnacks it definitely looks more like scum batsnacks. I don't know why I am not as certain as I was in FFL2.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:55 GMT
#1013
On January 02 2015 04:53 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi again.

I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can.

As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch!

LOL WHAT? (about bolded part) If you can show me any proof that you "tunneled on me" I'm more than happy to hear it, but are you being sorry for trying to get a read on me? Only person that can say they tunneled on me is dr.H. It seems like your trying to just back up because your getting some flame and to save yourself.
And the second paragraph is like UGH. just gives me the creeps.

Later on you go on to say that your cool with killing geript and such and one of your main reasons is that "he wants to wait for vets". Like thats not allignment indicative at all. You can take that to mean shit all, especially since it was near the start of the game. When artanis clears up why koshi is towny then he just drops his case. It's like hes just jumping from wagon to wagon and giving soft reads and dropping them asap. Super wishy washy.

Even tho I don't like geript atm it is more based on the fact that I have seen nothing similar to either his town game when I played with him and also in the game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia?user=geript&page=2 where you can see that he is scum hunting. But this game he isn't and while that is cause for some alarm I think laser is much more scummy than geript atm. Although I don't at all like his top scum reads (especially since I think keslier is really towny).

I'd be fine with a geript or laser lynch but I feel that laser > geript.

tell me why a town geript would omgus a null read. do you realize how insanely paranoid and defensive that is?

lazermonkey hasn't been very active but at least for that time period all of his posts are basically focused on the fact that he suspects you. calling that tunneling might be exaggerating a tad but idon't see why that would make him scum or something. is that really significant
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 01 2015 19:55 GMT
#1014
On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything

I guess he keeps town on a need to know basis...
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 19:56 GMT
#1015
On January 02 2015 04:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.

any thoughts on my two posts about bats? i feel like his reads are forced or just one size fits all throwaways

"this is a really awkward and conspiritorial argument" - you're using that as an argument for mafia but in bats' case it's usually an argument for him being town. tis why it's tricky.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:56 GMT
#1016
On January 02 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything

I guess he keeps town on a need to know basis...

day 1 is almost over and he hasn't made one point. that's a bit different
RIP Aaliyah
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 19:56 GMT
#1017
On January 02 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything

I guess he keeps town on a need to know basis...

ha!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 19:58 GMT
#1018
I don't get the joke. :/
I had a good night of sleep.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:58 GMT
#1019
Can we all start voting for geript
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 19:59 GMT
#1020
On January 02 2015 04:58 Koshi wrote:
I don't get the joke. :/

im a hypocrite and a jerk with questionable reading comprehension

let's go lynch geript
RIP Aaliyah
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