@GB, what do you think about it do you feel like he was blue fishing making a joke?
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@GB, what do you think about it do you feel like he was blue fishing making a joke? | ||
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Firstly his entrance to the thread was extremely safe and while he comes in with this On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz Its not really groundbreaking and by this point Chyz has been talked into the ground by multiple people (drH above all others), and it follows thread sentiment a bit about chyz being scummy. On January 01 2015 00:38 Lazermonkey wrote: I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk. I was scum that game. follows thread sentiment here that Robik could be scum, compares what robik is doing here to something he does in a scum game. It rubs me the wrong way and makes me think that its trying to throw dirt and see what sticks. On January 01 2015 00:50 Lazermonkey wrote: Its not necesarily wrong with making a post saying that a discussion is stupid. The problem is when the only post you have is a post calling a discussion stupid. Why is it, after all the of the discussion and multiple people calling out rikoty, that all Chyz did was saying that the discussion was stupid? Just like Artanis said, why say "do something usefull" and proceed to do nothing yourself? Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out. Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did. The bolded portion of this post is something that I feel lazer is guilty of, in his posts previous to this and this he hasn't really pushed things forward and has just seemed to be actively trying to do things while he sheeps the thread. On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. And mainly these three reads that he was asked for feel totally made up, he was asked specifically about them since a lot of the discussion was made about it and his reasoning for each seemed a bit off to me. On January 01 2015 03:57 Lazermonkey wrote: I dislike Koshi this far. Not only does his reads seem pretty off but he doesn't push geript one single bit, despite the fact that he is voting greipt. If you are town and think someone is scum but noone else is voting that person, you push that person. Koshi is not doing that. I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow. More sheeping thread seniment, the thread started turning against koshi and Lazer dislikes koshi. Overall to me it just seems like scum trying to blend in. | ||
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@bats, maybe but I think that their is a slight difference between parroting things you agree with and just blending in to the thread. The way you did it leads to conversations the way laser did it leads to nothing imo. Most of his reads feel forced and noncommittal while I can't say that about you | ||
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Kel you might have to convince me more that bats is scum, I can remember his posts so I don't think I would want to lynch him today. | ||
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Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable | ||
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On January 02 2015 01:36 Lazermonkey wrote: Because I think what Artanis posted was relevant maybe? Not sure why you think I don't want to lynch geript? I just said I'm super cool with killing him! Explain why what art posted was able to change your mind so much? | ||
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On January 02 2015 01:43 Lazermonkey wrote: lol. I'm done talking with you. Its obvious that I agree with what he said, the fact that you are not grasping this is beyond me. I thought it was a good point and thats why I changed my opinion on him. If you agree or not with Artanis thats another story. But why hold the fact that I changed my opinion against me? Would you like it better if I tunneled the shit out of Koshi no matter what? I asked you a simple question to explain your thought process i'm not trying to argue that the post was good by Artanis. I was asking you for your opinion and explanation, not sure why you got so defensive | ||
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Part one of your case and part three are pretty weak. Part three I think is the weakest because it is a flawed meta read comparing a game that is over a year old with a game that is current, He doesn't even have a ton of games posted on this site so its really hard for me to give credence to such a meta read, newbies change their meta and since its been a year since he last played here it is logical to think that his play would of changed or that he has rust and is getting back in it. So part three doesn't make him mafia I think. Part one, I just don't think it makes him mafia. Townies can be really guilty of that as time goes along and it was really early in the game at that point. Part two is probably your strongest point and it isn't really that bad, more time has passed in the thread and there is plenty of context. Question as i'm reading through it are you just trying to compare two lower activity players in lazzer and chy? It feels a bit out of place in the case and threw me off a bit. Besides that it does read like he is seeking approval and the lie you caught him in looks bad i will give you that. You put a good bit of work in but i'm just not sure if that makes him mafia necessarily. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:45 KelsierSC wrote: meh I read that as more frustration with DrH tunneling on him and having garbage reads. In fact he prefaces it, as such. seems more like a joke to me Meh, I could see that. Either way like I said I don't think it makes him mafia in either case as townies can do that as well. | ||
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Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. | ||
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SL what about the framer and millers? Do you think mafia really reacts the way that he did here? | ||
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I can see a scum bats doing this | ||
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Sure hes totally forgettable when hes not actually in the thread, most of what he said in the thread is parroted (which he himself has admitted to). Most of his posts are extremly strucutured and formulaic he has nothing crazy like normal bats would do. He has no reads or thoughts that I can really see and hasn't come to many conclussions if any | ||
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