Imperial Mafia - Page 2

On December 31 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote:
The game was balanced around 21 people btw.



Now with 15 vs 5 if town hits 1 scum / 1 town, town still loses with 3 ml and they need 5 correct lynches.


So... this game got a lot harder on town.

On December 31 2014 09:33 Superbia wrote:
Maybe only RNG if both shots are on town or both on scum. Else only let the shot through on scum if 1 shot on mafia and 1 shot on town. Free green check if both vigis are donkey.

Yeah, it's weird as fuck. But it's fun.

On December 31 2014 09:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
A bright person once said "Keep it simple, stupid."
This is a normal game. Let's not add in more variables like vig RNGs and stuff like that, please.

On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.

On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote:
Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop.

I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu.

Your setup :-)

On December 31 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:

well yeah, now that scum has a bunch of kp removing the rb makes sense.

Framer is awesome, I agree with you. I like wifom hey

sorry about that jat

On December 31 2014 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
let's kill ritoky. he pushed absolute bullshit reasons for all his scumreads in Carol and was generally unwarrantedly aggressive. I can't believe he's so dumb to push something for 10+ posts here which was a joke.

Literally the only hesitation is that I can't believe he would play exactly the same for another game running.

Nothing else is very interesting. Chyz gets time. DrH didn't demonstrate Chyz was mafia, just maybe that he made a read he shouldn't have. tbc.

On December 31 2014 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end.

I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc.

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.

On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote:
My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv.

On December 31 2014 17:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Oh, I finally get what's happening. I wasn't softening or backing down on anything - there was nothing to begin with. I don't care what anyone thinks about any policy. When I said "I strongly believe" it was just the first words that popped into my mind. When I say lying I don't mean rhetorical contradictions necessarily (because I'm prone to them by mistake) or errors, but more specifically fake claims or lying about night actions. When town does this it immediately starts a huge bandwagon and derails the thread. Seeing as I have been in many games where some brilliant townies tried to do this and it turned out badly I do have some genuine concerns but they mean nothing in the context of this game. What does matter and what IS the point is the conversations, accusations, cases that follow. I think of those fluff and policy posts as the spark to start the mafia game proper. I'm not trying to push any kind of conversation or discussion or anything about any sort of actual policy itself. I hope you can understand this. I can see why you would make this mistake and I have not played in a game with so many players unfamiliar with these kinds of things out of me in a long time, so I guess I should be very clear about things like this?