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On January 05 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:20 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 05:19 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I think it is pretty clear what he is talking about. Yes he's saying I'm trying to lynch unlynchable townies as an argument for me being scum when a quick look at the votecount should tell him that I'm trying to lynch geript since nobody will vote for you today anyway. He says: "Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies". There is nothing wrong with this statement. I don't really know what you're doing this game. It's like all you're doing is constantly masturbating on how townie you claim you look instead of trying to lynch scum. You drag me into these useless discussions in an attempt to ridicule me for suspecting you all the time. As I said, you're not playing mafia, you're simulating a chat session. If you really want to make yourself useful then start posting actual arguments for which lynch is better to pick. I drag YOU into the discussions? hahahaha Stop making idiotic reads on me and we don't have to discuss them. You know that I will never be lynched.
Pretty much. I replied to Lazer about something that didn't seem right to me and you led the discussion back to yourself without even spending a single thought to analysing what he just said. Most recent example is the easiest to see.
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On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH.
You agree with me?
Then why aren't you voting for him and instead say I'm scum for not only talking about him.
This doesn't make the slightest sense.
I mentioned DrH as being likely town with some reservations if I recall correctly, I don't know what the fuck you are reading. It's like you're constantly "misreading" things to push wrong information (like at the start of D1 where you tried to sell us a "bonus" association between me and Dam and then it turned out you forgot to read something), scumtell (you're probably just not thorough enough).
I mentioned marv a few times but my main focus still lies on geript as I have actual content that I can rely on rather than just marv's filter size and engagement (which isn't a bad tell but I prefer my argument on geript for the moment).
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On January 05 2015 05:34 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2015 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH. Marv is unlynchable? I do think its highly unlikely that we will be lynching him today, and it was even more unlikely when vivax was pushing marv the hardest. It didn't gain any traction yet Vivax spent super much time attacking marv. I don't remember it this way. In my memory it was marv that attacked vivax. They were up in each other ass.
First of all: I was arguing with JAT. MArv was on the sidelines, he said I was crazy for thinking the guy with the biggest filter was town, so I told marv I'd surpass him in filter size so he'd either unscumread me or claim scum (in jest). He replied. Whatever. I didn't spend much thought about marv at that time. Only in the course of the day when the wagon was slowly steering towards my lynch and marv was nowhere to see when I was discussing a shitton, I started wondering what he's up to. So no, you are again recalling something incorrectly.
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On January 05 2015 05:38 geript wrote:
If we're going to pull some Shanahanigans then we should do so onto Superbia. He's was exceptionally wrong on me and doesn't seem to care whatsoever. I'd much rather lurker lynch than not. Especially when said lurker has been brought up infrequently at best.
What happened to your D1 marv scumread "He's 100 % scum, never was wrong on him, never will" and now that basically everyone else starts becoming suspicious of him you go into the opposite direction.
It's like there's a skatepark between your D1 and D2, everything is 180°ing.
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On January 05 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
hihihihihihihi. Am miles behind. Cliff notes?
Switch to geript and walk away.
Also my filter is bigger than yours.
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On January 05 2015 05:42 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 05:32 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH. You agree with me? Then why aren't you voting for him and instead say I'm scum for not only talking about him. This doesn't make the slightest sense. I mentioned DrH as being likely town with some reservations if I recall correctly, I don't know what the fuck you are reading. It's like you're constantly "misreading" things to push wrong information (like at the start of D1 where you tried to sell us a "bonus" association between me and Dam and then it turned out you forgot to read something), scumtell (you're probably just not thorough enough). I mentioned marv a few times but my main focus still lies on geript as I have actual content that I can rely on rather than just marv's filter size and engagement (which isn't a bad tell but I prefer my argument on geript for the moment). I just said I thought geript looked scummy, didn't I? And yhea, you weren't attacking DH, mixed you up with geript. Sorry for that.
Very genuine scumhunting yes. You mix me up with another player to push an argument for a townie being scum.
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On January 05 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
You [JAT]? "I liked it [the argument from you on geript ]but I don't think it makes him scum he plays like shit but I think he's town but I'm not trying to clear him in any way"
Synopsis of what DrH is alluding to.
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On January 05 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch. What makes me hesitant is that I just don't really see geript giving up like that as scum while as town he might believe in some retarded logic where him dieing somehow makes sense. In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. On the other I don't get how someone who is being shadowed would play this way anyways. The same applies to GB.
Well not really a townread, but at the time it really felt like one as everyone was discussing the points against him and JAT stood out with this.
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In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum.
Oh wait some more emphasis I didn't immediately spot.
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In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum.
I raise you the part where you directly reference this game.
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Wow we're talking about JAT's wishywashyness as if geript already flipped scum.
Let's go ahead and find out, we can talk about JAT later with this part of the game in mind after we saw what color geript bleeds.
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Geript if you want to make today's lynch a fully fledged out Koshi sheeping you best not forget the part where he also mentions you and Robik as scum.
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On January 05 2015 06:13 geript wrote:
The timeline argument is the most damning.
Yes damning for a guy who doesn't read the whole game in a straight line but instead sees one thing there, opens a filter here, etc. and then slowly starts forming his reads after having missed out on most of the day.
Koshi mistook my being scattered cause of the latecoming for being scummy, I already mentioned this when I talked to him about it during N1.
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On January 05 2015 06:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Short version "geript in this game is acting like town geript from other games"
You would agree with that JAT? Nope. Short version: I generally think geript would play better as scum (I could be wrong) while I know that his play can suck as town.
How can you tell if he's playing good or bad without knowing what the solution to the game is, it's like saying "if you look scummy I don't lynch you, if you look townie you're playing good and you're more likely to be scum".
This reminds me of Xatalos bad arguments I called out from D1 on in last game and everyone ignored them until he conceded in endgame. I still got a surge of e-peen from that game and I'm not getting mislynched on my birthday you scumbags.
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On January 05 2015 06:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 06:15 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Short version "geript in this game is acting like town geript from other games"
You would agree with that JAT? Nope. Short version: I generally think geript would play better as scum (I could be wrong) while I know that his play can suck as town. How can you tell if he's playing good or bad without knowing what the solution to the game is, it's like saying "if you look scummy I don't lynch you, if you look townie you're playing good and you're more likely to be scum". He has been one of the main wagons both days now. That is pretty awful play regardless of his alignment. And never ever did I say I would not lynch him. I clearly stated that this is the only thing that makes me HESITANT.
You say that how he plays doesn't matter for his alignment, but it still makes you hesitant cause earlier you said he would probably play better as scum, which means
that earlier you said that how he plays is relevant for his alignment,
and now you say that he's playing bad regardless of alignment
Full stop.
If I ignore this line of argumentation for now, I'd say it's time for you to clearly state where you stand on geript and make your decision public.
It made you hesitate that he's playing badly, ok.
You say he's playing badly.
You think my point on geript is good.
So what are you going to do now? Do you decide that he's town and keep your vote on me or do you decide that even though you hesitated my point on him is still better and vote for him? Cause that's all what matters today. Geript or me and you aren't making clear in any way where you want to head. You aren't pushing for me, you aren't pushing for him. So SAY IT.
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I like how JAT uses the first part of his post to simply find an excuse to not openly give a definite read on me or geript based on the flimsy reasoning he has been using when I prompted him to finally get to the point.
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He has been boasting that he pushed for the bats lynch and now he's doing exactly the opposite, he's sitting back, claims to hesitate on me, hesitates on geript, only reacts to what happens in a given moment, but never gets to the point who he actually wants to lynch between us two, and how he's going to prioritize his heuristics.
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On January 05 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
vivax every time i read stuff that makes me feel better about you you go and say something like that
I'm sure you have a clear picture of what JAT is thinking about the guy he has been sitting on all day long, ie me, and geript.
Oh wait, you can't cause he refuses to go in depth about us and it's not worth being called out in your opinion.
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