TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells

On December 05 2014 02:50 GlowingBear wrote:


HIJOLE VATO WEI

On December 05 2014 04:47 Palmar wrote:

What the hell is wrong with you?

On December 05 2014 04:10 The_Templar wrote:

Dammit

On December 07 2014 16:47 Tubesock wrote:



I'm not opposed to just jumping in. I do think that this type of game isn't something you can prepare for.

On December 09 2014 08:18 KelsierSC wrote:


yeh but you have to get her a present aswell and that is always a minefield.

bitches love slippers though

On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it.

Get rekt mafia

On December 09 2014 08:21 The_Templar wrote:

This is a useless post.


That's WIFOM.

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Bolded: So you are OK with people not believing in the true spirit of christmas? Why does that sound like a corporate figure talking?

On December 09 2014 08:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Curious on your thought process here hun.

What did Froggy do, or not do, to be put into your scum pile?

On December 09 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:


i have a soft spot in my heart for good jokes.

hey hey hey hey hey!!!! don't forget our first game where i rolled doctor and protected you like a victoria's secret push-up bra all game long!!!!!

but yes, my read on you is generally dog poop.

On December 09 2014 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:

Grab the sumo suits, I'm down for a rumble.

Why are you wasting posts trying to get people to talk about you wasting posts?

On December 09 2014 08:46 Damdred wrote:


Why with everything going on do you not comment on it and instead only post about a joke and focus on fighting slam?

On December 09 2014 08:47 Holyflare wrote:


Well no. You said people talking about lynching lurkers are "off" and he was an "easy target to look scummy" which is already a contradiction in one post and now you are saying you know what he said and it doesn't look bad and people are making mountains out of mole hills which is a contradiction with your first post. There's a great deal of backtracking in what you are saying and I don't like it.

On December 09 2014 08:48 Alakaslam wrote:

http://youtu.be/Nc9yr4urskA

It is the right way

On December 09 2014 08:46 KelsierSC wrote:
So i have noticed something with this set up. If you are scrooge just claim.

On December 09 2014 08:52 Half the Sky wrote:


Greetings everyone! 27NB, I'm also female, join the club and I drew town as well, so victory together!

Good luck and have fun with your date. As for me, well, shopping for my significant other is done and dusted. Some years it's easier than others.

Kelsier, can you please explain the Scrooge claim post? Agreed with HF, what are you seeing in this?

On December 09 2014 08:52 Fecalfeast wrote:


I commented once before so there's nothing to read, we start this fite on equal footing. You seem like you're fishing for something to me by blatantly posting nothing.

On December 09 2014 09:00 The_Templar wrote:

Additionally, Santa noted that one of the suspects, KelsierSC, was trying to discover the location of the sought-after Scrooge, but would not say why. Why was this? Scrooge could be the key to making Christmas the best for everyone, and was on Santa's Nice list already. Yet, Kelsier withdrew as soon as his search was revealed, for reasons that Santa could not discern. Indeed, Kelsier was acting differently than his jolly past had suggested.

On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

On December 09 2014 09:04 The_Templar wrote:

Yes, but who made the snowmen in this game?

On December 09 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
KITA

KITAKITAKITA

WHERE ARE YOUR ANALYSIS POSTS WHERIZIT

WHERIS ALAKMSLAM? HIJOLE

On December 09 2014 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
You should also stop wasting your time trying to read slam and just try and make him interact with you about this game instead. He can actually play mafia and says insightful things.

On December 09 2014 10:37 KelsierSC wrote:


I'm not reading slam. But the free town passes he is getting are good info.

especially people who call him semi town.. Wtf is that

On December 09 2014 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAM!!!

FITE ME

On December 09 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:


Uhm, I've never called them town?

I've called bats scum and slam only reveals himself as scum at later days. You won't have a read on him day one.
Bats is scum for that wasted post on my entrance. Pointless and wishy washy (hey this guy is calling himself scum! Or color blind? Oh nevermind, SUDDEN REALISATION, BB code says blue)

Slam, you're scum because you haven't post any insights yet.
Defend thyself.

On December 09 2014 11:26 rsoultin wrote:


And thank you for a real answer. Now I don't have to take my vote off SL just to get you to play. Sumo fight! Where are your reads slamtheman?

On December 09 2014 11:33 Holyflare wrote:


Huuuuh?

On December 09 2014 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:


You tell me, bby.

I feel you don't like me, slam. Personally.

On December 09 2014 12:47 LightningStrike wrote:

Oh I just thought it would be cleaner to have all the votes in the voting thread that's all.

On December 10 2014 09:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm also trying to understand why people are scumreading NB.

I have no idea.

On December 10 2014 09:05 liancourt wrote:
where did ninja claim mason

On December 10 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
And seeing as I'm being completely ignored at the moment
(Seriously what's the point of me defending myself if no one is even going to interact with me?)

I'll leave you with a video of my college choir singing Christmas Music. This is us singing Carol of the Bells

On December 10 2014 09:06 Half the Sky wrote:


I see you just voted him. Because....?

On December 10 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I didn't.

On December 10 2014 09:07 batsnacks wrote:




(Campus Mafia)

On December 10 2014 09:10 liancourt wrote:


sson hijole chupazi loco

On December 10 2014 09:12 ritoky wrote:


i was the top proponent of his lynch and he has moved back toward null for me because:

a) he says he is a role. #%##But he knows he has been lynches as a role so others from those games will lend weight to such claims. WIFOM.


b) he vehemently defends his meta reads as legitimate even in the face of everyone calling them terrible. #^#%} THIS IS MOAR WIFOM YESSSS
c) he responded directly to almost every question and accusation tossed at him. #^}%%# townie points I guess but is it really alignment indicative? Don't you have to defend as scum too?

... WIFOM!!
d) ff is worse. #%%#% prove this

i wouldn't be terribly opposed to going back on him, but ff is way worse.

On December 10 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Ah cool tubesock didn't read the thread.

my scrooge play was to get a specific read on ff i explained that before. Outside of that i have given lots of good town reads, all of which are developed reads not one liners, weird misrepresentation of my play again. If you need more explanation , ask.

fyi a guy talking to a girl isn't flirting, grow up.

On December 10 2014 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:

I was scum with Slam on Student and he was Scum on Titanic he not being as useless as those two games as he did tried to start a discussion after a bit of fluff posts prove it I have no memory of that place and he tried to steer people in the right direction when although he does think I'm scum which is not alignment indicative unless GUS but everyone got their opinions.
@bats I tried to frame you in that game to save my scum team and I not sheeping anyone in this game although yes my post might of looked like OWS but I guess it just our posting style are similar and it was FF post about sicklucker got me to look at sicklucker although I misread his shenanigans this game and thought he was scum but now I think he is town.

On December 10 2014 09:53 kitaman27 wrote:


HTS, bunnies, LS, Tube/anyone else in the thread currently. Do you guys feel this is noteworthy as well?

On December 10 2014 10:55 rsoultin wrote:


I think I phrased it as "new and learning" but I agree. Nitpicking him is pointless at this stage.

So is nitpicking tube. Let the guy get his sea legs a little first before you start scumreading him like he actually knows how to play scum @Vivax.

Speaking of Vivo la Vida Loca...you're definitely coming across as lazy in those reads. Still. Same opinion on 27NB, by the way, or has anything changed?

On December 10 2014 11:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Also @Templar I guessing you played like 100 TL Mafia games knowing you from ABL and you guys there talking about TL Mafia there in the past.

On December 10 2014 12:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay slam explain why am I and Rsoultin are scum?

On December 11 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:
So yeah.
Please spend time talking about 27nb.
Look at her filter. Look at what she says make sense. Convince me she is town.

Even if you don't believe it yourself. Can somebody make a towncase on her?

On December 12 2014 09:46 Tubesock wrote:


You are wrong about Alakaslam this game. His posts are pretty short, except for the first several. Those he was fishing for information. Fishing for people who would put in the effort. He spent time on templar and when templar stopped giving him what Slam wanted he moved on. He wanted to FITE. Fecal tried but was unable to interpret anything. GlowingBear also tried and dropped some meta read on him (understandable) and Slam deemed him worthless. The conversation would only add to confusion. It would not have been finding scum, channelling Bamcis or using the eyes of Chupazi. None of the things Slam wants.

Find another person who was less wavering in Ninjabunnies lynch than Alakaslam. I think his first post on her was to indicate he was suspicious. It was early in the wagon. Then later he said:




Here, Koshi is trying for a read from anyone thinking Ninja was Nice. His response and reasoning is "She didn't mind posting and drawing attention." Certainly town, and turns out he was right.

Then "HELLO" asking the rest of us why are we disgarding this information. Other people brought it up. One was the target of a wagon, and another was night killed. If you won't put in the effort to find out who I am talking about then you are not worth any Naughty hunters. The rest are scum.

He then scum reads HF. This is significant. He is wrong, HF is merely scum as are the 18 of us nice still alive. Slam is the ONLY person who refused the naughty case on Ninja by post AND vote. He was the ONLY person 100% right.

Go back, research yourself. Then tell me WHY I am wrong.

I am scum until Alakaslam comes and confirms.

On December 12 2014 09:54 LightningStrike wrote:

No it was on Slam.

On December 12 2014 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I think Slam lost his mind entirely from playing 2 scum games in a row before this one T_T

On December 12 2014 09:59 Tubesock wrote:


Absolutely! Finally, someone who sees this as a credible threat. Because you are naughty.

GlowingBear you DEFEND Sicklucker with "Lian, SL is town. Let him alone." Yet, you are using plays on schemes and roles to discredit Ritoky and gain confusion. Tell me how Sicklucker is so Nice, you tell Lian to lay off. You defend Sicklucker and not just once but use what he's doing to go after a CONFIRMED Nice (RIP Damdred). Tell me why and how Sicklucker is NICE.

##Vote: GlowingBear

On December 12 2014 10:31 Tubesock wrote:


If you are not Alakaslam, do not bother to read this, you can not comprehend it. You are the savage down below.



It is merely happenstance this post spoke to me. I read this and immediately labelled you a Gucci Pilot. Worthless, talentless and garbage. Later you scummed me, Rsoultin or perhaps Ritoky who really cares, and LightningStrike. You told him, you ASKED him to step up, to elevate or he will never understand. You scummed him but Niced him. There is a difference. I see that. It's not nulltown, null, or iffy. There is only Nice, Naughty and Scum. Nothing else. I knew then I was the savage in the trees looking at the iron bird in the sky. I went back and filter dove you. I LOVE speed, I know it. 200 MPH??? That my friend is slow, it's rare you see a bird with "phase changes" that only go 200MPH. I know of none that can and I am Proffessional. I then saw the dirt and rubber. Ah, it is not asphalt and rubber, it is merely 200 which may seem fast.

I thought I could play your game. Dropped a Go West reference, a Lear reference, an ALPA reference. If you don't know these it tells me you are not Professional, but you are amateur but we are NICE.

On December 13 2014 05:01 Vivax wrote:


One interesting bit I find in retrospect is this one. He wanted to talk about the 27nb stuff apparently and when catching up with his comment he seems to rehearse what HF said but without taking any opinion on it. 27nb also doesn't appear in his further reasoning. As shown here:



This reply, in context, is meant to imitate what GB wrote, not really sure if trolling. I'll assume he isn't for now. I really hate posts like these cause they are so ambiguous. It's the sort of stuff people can use to say "but look I have made reads", or if you question their validity they can say "nah man I was just joking as a reply" as they see fit in a specific moment. Needs clearing up from FF.

______________________

Another matter is how he starts the game going after Alakaslam in a dramatic sumo-suit fashion. Again ambiguous so hard to tell if he's joking or serious, assuming serious again, then this later post of his doesn't make much sense:





So he's telling us he can't read Slam but still tries to at the start of the game. Obviously a futile effort. I have the same opinion about reading Slam and my solution to it is to ignore his posts until it really becomes a pressing matter to decide on him. Yet he tries it at the start of the game but sees 27nb as a secondary issue he barely comments on.

As of now I'd lynch this guy for making so little sense and talking about stuff that should be irrelevant to him (Alakaslam), and when he pretends it's relevant (comment on 27nb without ever further elaborating something on her) it really isn't. Overall his play is a pain to read and I have a hard time imagining him as town.

On December 13 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
I think slams mafia but ive only really ever played with him as his mafia brother so I have no clue. He was obvious that game and he feels obvious this game. Did you really roll scum 3 games inarow slammy baby?

On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:


I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia.

On December 13 2014 15:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow..


I'm extremely drunks


Ok


HF is mafia

Si is Vivax

Maybe Templar

For sure froggy


Wooioooooooe

On December 13 2014 15:19 GlowingBear wrote:


Hahahaha
What is Jô

I don't even

On December 13 2014 15:36 batsnacks wrote:
The FF case is literally just what Lonemeow said and FF possibly being apathetic. I can summarize that in one lame sentence. I am extremely disappointed with how HF and Vivax are voting right now.

On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:


You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you?

On December 13 2014 15:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, seriously, marry me

On December 13 2014 15:41 GlowingBear wrote:


DNOJY

WJSODM COURSGE AND POWER

PBAMBAMBAM

On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:

How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread.

To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads.

On December 13 2014 16:17 Trfel wrote:
Ok, a few comments to the people who feel I am a good lynch (which to be honest, is probably everyone, or at least ought to be).

First, other than me being a lurker, the only argument is a meta read. Which is based off of a whole one game. A student mafia game, with 13-14 people, where I was shot on Night 1. Meaning, I played for 72 hours in an "easy" game and only had to read ~30 pages the entire time. Then, I jumped into a game with ~26 players, including several veterans and skilled players. And it's already over 100 posts. I'm simply not able to play at the same level I was last game, and yes, that's not ideal.

In addition, one thing that my last game taught me is that meta reads have limited use. So at the moment, I don't intend to make any meta reads. That doesn't mean I'm not trying, it just means that I decided that spending hours pouring over previous games for minimal value isn't a good use of time.

Again, I realize 100% that I appear to be a very good lynch. But that is just for me being a policy lynch, the meta argument really lacks backing. My request is that people spend the next while looking into other people to lynch, as with this much time in the day I don't believe you should start looking at a policy lynch already.

Anyway, I'll be looking at Fecalfeast's filter and the cases made against him again now. If anyone has any (specific) questions they would like me to answer, I should be up for a short while. But I will ignore general questions like "who is scum", as I'll answer that when I can.

On December 13 2014 23:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Wooooow.

My head.

It hurts

On December 14 2014 04:46 Tubesock wrote:
First, I don't expect anyone to really dig into what I saw until we lose a few more towns and have 0 mafia kills.

I do absolutely think I can be wrong. This is why I'm hoping and asking for help, if people don't see what I see and have asked many times, then it's not right. But, my reads have slightly changed. I'm replacing GB, in my published 4 (temp, kel, sick and GB) and my 5th changed and found my 6th. But before I say, I think I need people to try more to see from my eyes. When they do, they will understand more.

It's just like my interaction with Slam. He had no interest in me. I showed him I had something he wanted. Unfortunately, he (and the rest of you) thought I personally attacked him. I did not. I was seeing if we saw eye to eye. Now, I think he sees that I wasn't at all insulting him. Not one bit.

Specifically, aviation isn't like professional sports, the best pilots are not necessarily the best pilots. Amateurs and professionals are equal. We are all pilots. I think Slam would agree.

So, I need to figure out how to convey my thoughts on who I think are mafia. Unless I do that, then no matter what I say will be useless. Absolutely useless.

On December 14 2014 05:13 batsnacks wrote:


If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you.

On December 14 2014 05:15 batsnacks wrote:


You have problem with this?

You are voting HF yes?

On December 14 2014 05:17 liancourt wrote:
The fact that tube is spewing out scum reads should mean something. Totally bleeding town putting way too much effort to be mafia.

Get on the kel wagon

On December 14 2014 05:17 Vivax wrote:
Tubesock is so fucking town that anyone on his wagon should come out and beg for forgiveness for their sins.

On December 14 2014 05:19 batsnacks wrote:


HF is his second strongest scum read. If tube isn't willing to vote his second strongest scum read vs get lynched, he should get lynched imo.

On December 14 2014 05:21 liancourt wrote:


Say what now?

Kel is marley?

On December 14 2014 05:24 rsoultin wrote:


No.

Simply, no. Much as lynching bats can be fun...I want scum today.

On December 14 2014 06:09 The_Templar wrote:

I would scum hunt 100% of the time as pressured mafia.

On December 14 2014 06:18 The_Templar wrote:
Another thing about Tubesock is that he made a huge case on 6 mafia, even listing the order that he wanted to lynch them in, and then started switching his votes to whatever train had the most votes (besides him), even voting for someone that wasn't on his final list. His strongest read by far, HF, that he's voted for was for a grand total of 36 cumulative minutes. He goes after Kelsier because he was not there, when he was in the hospital (and if he wasn't, that would be a huge jerk move, which I seriously doubt). But he hasn't pushed a single one of his strong scum reads yet, despite going on about how he was exposing them in such a genius way.

On December 15 2014 03:57 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont be here for EoN but Rito and the vig if we got one shoot the following people
GlowingBear: Been trying to lynch HF since end of Day 1 and made a poor case of HF being scum
Tubesock: Called me and sicklucker the most obvious town players mafia with little evidence and scum slipped earlier in the thread on how many mafia there is plus been acting scummy since Day 1.
Oatsmaster: Totally off his game and wouldn't comment much at all and seemed scum because he normally would his points clear no matter what time of Day or Night to make sure a case is good and give clear direction which he didn't do this game.

On December 15 2014 05:33 Xatalos wrote:
Shooting LS would be stupid when he claimed the Ghost role and nobody counter-claimed him (which they should have done immediately if there was someone to counter-claim since the role became useless).

On December 15 2014 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:

There is WIFOM; there was no guarantee made that there were any ghosts.

But I see you

On December 15 2014 06:07 sicklucker wrote:
Slam if your town and gonna make a bad counterclaim here wait till eon please so you dont help mafia role hunt

On December 15 2014 06:12 Fecalfeast wrote:

He claimed "a role" nothing more

On December 15 2014 06:16 sicklucker wrote:
He claimed a blue role.

On December 15 2014 06:19 sicklucker wrote:
Can anyone give me meta on slams town play. Like is he ever bad enough that he would push a lynch on a confirmed town and not recant it?

On December 15 2014 08:43 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not really a town power role. I was just trying to be like the cool people and claim at night.

On December 15 2014 08:44 Vivax wrote:


Kush suicided himself like a douchebag, I visited hm N1

On December 15 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:


Hm.

Slam. What should town do?

I think it's reasonable to assume that the rolecop present fell in the hands of mafia. I want the first present holder to claim if he isn't mafia.

On December 15 2014 11:59 The_Templar wrote:

In addition to the scum slip, he continued to be over-the-top aggressive and finding conspiracies, insisting he's 100% right and that mafia would never kill him while finding any reason that he's town.
Specifically these:

On December 15 2014 12:23 ritoky wrote:
i am back, got some reading to do

SEA \o\

HAWKS /o/

On December 15 2014 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:

In N Out and looking at other stuff for meta reaons sorry

On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.

I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.

On December 15 2014 17:05 Holyflare wrote:


This is also silly. You can just branch your discussion into 2 themes. 1 where i flip mafia and 1 where i flip town. Stop giving excuses to not participate though. There's also reads that can be given independent of my alignment you know like a normal mafia game

On December 17 2014 10:30 Fecalfeast wrote:


Why did you ninja vote oatsmaster?