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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
December 13 2014 02:23 GMT
#1981
@ GB

So you thought froggynoddys entrance was bad but didn't give a shit about him afterwards, also you include arguments for him being scum but only focus on HF today.

Needless to say how that looks to me. Unless you have an explanation for only bringing up that entry as scummy now that you use it in your case against HF.

Not impressed at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
December 13 2014 03:25 GMT
#1982
Tentative naughty list, it would be cool if we could lynch one of these baddies today:

- GB for this discrepancy in his case. The froggynoddy suspicion is entirely new and he doesn't look included among his scumspects. Rather fresh scumread stemming from that HF case, still have to look for more stuff thoroughly.

- TheTemplar for not being the ballsy, (scumhuntingly) talkative town templar who always gets townread D1 and mostly NKd N1. Gut based explanation, check for inconsistencies also pending here (yes I'm not going through as many filters thoroughly as I probably should yet, besides we can't lynch all of em today so I think it's fine)

- Fecalfeast for some of the stuff I found in his filter and already mentioned, plus he martyrs at various points, like during N1 and lately when he sort of expressed he doesn't care about the scumreads. But it's not the sort of righteous townie martyr when somebody is genuinely pissed off about people scumreading him or the sort, it's more like the "I don't care about the game"- martyr. Additionally he was in the focus of the night killed guys.

- Trfel for playing extremely subpar to his last game when he's capable of much much more. He doesn't want to stand in the spotlight in this game.

There's probably 5 scum since the formula for scummers is usually amount of players / 5. I don't know why people go on so much about tubesock claiming there's 5 scum being a scumslip. Scumslips are overrated in all the games I've played in save very few exceptions. Overall I find him tedious to read cause he has such a weird way of expressing himself, if I would give him a read it certainly wouldn't be cause of that.

Finding the likely 5th scum pending. Tempted to look into the direction of Oats, soultin, Kelsier for this one.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 13 2014 03:32 GMT
#1983
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
December 13 2014 03:50 GMT
#1984
On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


What do you think about the other guys.
I'm up for any of them really. Waiting for people's feedback and seeing where they stand.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 04:02 GMT
#1985
On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


Na hes the same hes always been vulgar, rude n mean in all his posts you just didnt notice that game because you were too ;p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:03 GMT
#1986
On December 11 2014 11:53 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2014 11:45 ritoky wrote:
On December 11 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2014 11:13 ritoky wrote:
HF can you start getting salty so i can read you as town already? you're doing town things, but you're not angry at idiots for lynching town....why?


you're telling me I should berate people for.... listening to me!? what the shit are you even talking about


you do that a lot...lol. especially when people listen to you for bad reasons and when you got people like koshi saying they are okay with it and rsoultin saying i told you so and kels pre-emptively saying i told you so.


stop wasting my posts with insignificant bs I have like 7 left, I literally just said kelsier is very likely mafia for talking about all that crap pre-lynch and I'm not going to berate other people who have the same reads as me because that means they are likely town. I'm confused why you even have this read when you literally just expressed how I "fooled" you last game which means this salty read is clearly not a proper read at all if I can emulate it as both alignments, not to mention you said I've been doing towny things and somehow that's pushed under the rug

I also said I was extremely sick and wouldn't be here post-deadline but here I am.


you are mafia


I found him first.



On December 12 2014 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
Kush
Ritoky
HF

probable scum team. Posting for cred.

On December 13 2014 03:32 batsnacks wrote:
HTS is mafia. Ritoky isn't.

On December 13 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:
I think HF is mafia though


On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


This is pretty scummy. How do you go from agreeing with me all game and then agreeing to this post above and then somehow pulling out that I'm mafia? Only to then just tell vivax you in fact don't want to vote me but instead trfel or rsoultin who imo is posting good tidbits.


ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:06 GMT
#1987
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:07 GMT
#1988
Also notice how gb has commented on multiple posts that had me as town in them and has started this day by saying "alert hf isn't dead" only to then only base the majority of his scum read on day 1 and a lot of it on my first post.

I also just destroyed his case and he ignored it and posted it up all over again. Dude is so 1 track mafia minded.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 04:08 GMT
#1989
On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


Lol, I think you called me a stubborn, ignorant ass, actually. But maybe I was a calm stubborn ignorant ass? (Not sure where the not calm comment is coming from, though.) Also think Oats called me something like depressive and...another word that means an asshole, I can't remember. It's not really that unusual for me to take a strong stance on something or someone. I think anyone from my last game would corroborate that.

Regardless of meta reads...

You never did tell me your case on HF bats.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:10 GMT
#1990
On December 13 2014 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also notice how gb has commented on multiple posts that had me as town in them and has started this day by saying "alert hf isn't dead" only to then only base the majority of his scum read on day 1 and a lot of it on my first post.

I also just destroyed his case and he ignored it and posted it up all over again. Dude is so 1 track mafia minded.


That's only the first part of his case, though.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 13 2014 04:10 GMT
#1991
On December 13 2014 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


Lol, I think you called me a stubborn, ignorant ass, actually. But maybe I was a calm stubborn ignorant ass? (Not sure where the not calm comment is coming from, though.) Also think Oats called me something like depressive and...another word that means an asshole, I can't remember. It's not really that unusual for me to take a strong stance on something or someone. I think anyone from my last game would corroborate that.

Regardless of meta reads...

You never did tell me your case on HF bats.


I don't need a case to think he's mafia. I need a case to convince you he's mafia.

I have the former, not the latter.

capisce?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 04:13 GMT
#1992
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


Not really its just the easy lynches tho. Hes so townie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 04:14 GMT
#1993
You also need a case to convince me that you actually think he is mafia there, bats.

For instance, your meta-read on me was laughable. SL doesn't like me at all this game (or most of last game) and still called you on it.

You've been pretty all over the place lately. That and if you're town wouldn't you want us to lynch the right person? Or you're just content throwing names out...
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:14 GMT
#1994
On December 13 2014 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also notice how gb has commented on multiple posts that had me as town in them and has started this day by saying "alert hf isn't dead" only to then only base the majority of his scum read on day 1 and a lot of it on my first post.

I also just destroyed his case and he ignored it and posted it up all over again. Dude is so 1 track mafia minded.


That's only the first part of his case, though.


What is? That post? Or you mean the part I'm commenting on? If it's the post he's literally posted the same thing twice which I've explained away a few pages ago. Bunnies and vivax were nothing alike and he's saying they are.

If he has more to post then he's wasting his time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
December 13 2014 04:15 GMT
#1995
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


What's bad about letting you know the synopsis of what I've been observing this game? I made a summary of different things I pointed out about different people, and instead of leaving it at that effectually achieving nothing cause I seem all over the place and with no clear goal, I'm trying to set a waypoint from where I officially want to go on for today's lynch.

And since I talk about multiple people, it becomes a list post. Which isn't bad in itself if it has a foundation. It just looks like you're bitching about me formatting it as a list rather than the content.

Also @ Bats I need more reasons than that to be sold on a rsoultin lynch, can you find anything special in his filter.

Another post from GB that freaks me out:

On December 12 2014 22:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 22:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 12 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog.

sounds appealing.

Er mainly its for the waffle around the policy lynch, not policy lynch shit that wasnt waffle but shouldve been waffle.
And the templar read.
Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads;
Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with)
Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active).

This is a super fluffy read that doesnt even show anything. Its super generalized and can be used for like half the players in the game. So its a contrived read that he did because he didnt feel comfortable doing something about nb and preferred to stay out of the spotlight.

He scum yo.


Frogs entrance is horrible, but I'm okay with this read on Templar. I don't see it like too fluffy.


I don't understand how somebody GB should be suspicious of makes "okay reads" when there is no indication that GB takes a good look at it, since I would expect him to agree with that read if he finds it ok. And if he agrees with it then he should find Templar lynch worthy. And if he doesn't, why doesn't he try to pick it apart and instead only finds it "ok"?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:16 GMT
#1996
On December 13 2014 13:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


Not really its just the easy lynches tho. Hes so townie


That's not the problem.

Go through his filter. All of his scumreads are incredibly spaced out and based on flimsy evidence, and he never follows up on any of it. The only hard scumread he had all game was Xatalos, in yet he completely abandoned that push over a nonreason and hasn't given him any thought.

Think about scum's objectives and think about town's objectives. Scum's job is to pass suspicion across a large number of players in order to increase the mislynch pool. Town needs to find and lynch scum.

I really don't get the feeling that Vivax is out to lynch scum. His scumreads are way too hazy for that.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:17 GMT
#1997
On December 13 2014 13:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also notice how gb has commented on multiple posts that had me as town in them and has started this day by saying "alert hf isn't dead" only to then only base the majority of his scum read on day 1 and a lot of it on my first post.

I also just destroyed his case and he ignored it and posted it up all over again. Dude is so 1 track mafia minded.


That's only the first part of his case, though.


What is? That post? Or you mean the part I'm commenting on? If it's the post he's literally posted the same thing twice which I've explained away a few pages ago. Bunnies and vivax were nothing alike and he's saying they are.

If he has more to post then he's wasting his time.


The post you're commenting on is only the first part.

You're not going to sway anyone with rhetoric.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:18 GMT
#1998
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:19 GMT
#1999
On December 13 2014 13:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


What's bad about letting you know the synopsis of what I've been observing this game? I made a summary of different things I pointed out about different people, and instead of leaving it at that effectually achieving nothing cause I seem all over the place and with no clear goal, I'm trying to set a waypoint from where I officially want to go on for today's lynch.

And since I talk about multiple people, it becomes a list post. Which isn't bad in itself if it has a foundation. It just looks like you're bitching about me formatting it as a list rather than the content.


I don't understand what you get out of setting a "waypoint." Clarify?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:20 GMT
#2000
On December 13 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha


That's cool.

Let him post the second part. Then you can tear it down relentlessly and I can analyze the value in what he's saying.
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