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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:22 GMT
#2001
On December 13 2014 13:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha


That's cool.

Let him post the second part. Then you can tear it down relentlessly and I can analyze the value in what he's saying.


I've told you I'm in Belgium so my posting is limited. If I don't comment on atrocities and nip them in the bud and point out glaring inconsistencies in posts as they come out then who the fuck will? Not like anyone reads wall of texts about posts being bad anymore.

Why on earth are you shitting on multiple valid points that I'm bringing up?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:24 GMT
#2002
On December 13 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha


That's cool.

Let him post the second part. Then you can tear it down relentlessly and I can analyze the value in what he's saying.


I've told you I'm in Belgium so my posting is limited. If I don't comment on atrocities and nip them in the bud and point out glaring inconsistencies in posts as they come out then who the fuck will? Not like anyone reads wall of texts about posts being bad anymore.

Why on earth are you shitting on multiple valid points that I'm bringing up?


I'm not shitting on anything. I just want to see the second part of GB's case before I start tackling this predicament.

I'm kind of annoyed that he's doing it this way, tbh. I'm probably not going to be able to look at it until after deadline which really upsets me.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:27 GMT
#2003
On December 13 2014 13:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha


That's cool.

Let him post the second part. Then you can tear it down relentlessly and I can analyze the value in what he's saying.


I've told you I'm in Belgium so my posting is limited. If I don't comment on atrocities and nip them in the bud and point out glaring inconsistencies in posts as they come out then who the fuck will? Not like anyone reads wall of texts about posts being bad anymore.

Why on earth are you shitting on multiple valid points that I'm bringing up?


I'm not shitting on anything. I just want to see the second part of GB's case before I start tackling this predicament.

I'm kind of annoyed that he's doing it this way, tbh. I'm probably not going to be able to look at it until after deadline which really upsets me.


You're literally seeing I'm making valid points on why his case is awful and actually doesn't make any sense from anyone who had a thought process this game and how wrong it is, only to tell me to wait to criticise it altogether and then say you won't be able to even read it.?.???? Wtf
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 04:27 GMT
#2004
On December 13 2014 11:23 Vivax wrote:
@ GB

So you thought froggynoddys entrance was bad but didn't give a shit about him afterwards, also you include arguments for him being scum but only focus on HF today.

Needless to say how that looks to me. Unless you have an explanation for only bringing up that entry as scummy now that you use it in your case against HF.

Not impressed at all.


I wasn't following the thread as I said multiple times, so your argument is invalid. You are also using ad hominem instead considering my whole argument

GUUS IM DEUNK
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2014 04:28 GMT
#2005
On December 12 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 09:18 Trfel wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:11 Trfel wrote:
I still don't see very much reason to lynch Fecalfeast. Yes, his play hasn't been amazing yet, and I disagree with many of his reads, but I can still see where he is coming from. I would rather give him some more time before looking back at that lynch.


Did you read what lonemeow/kita/me wrote about him?

Yes, I have. I have also filter read his posts multiple times.

If you would like, I can elaborate, but unfortunately I will be really busy for a bit. In summary, his play is mostly fluff, but that doesn't incriminate someone (see Alakaslam, batsnacks, for example). And in the remaining posts, while I disagree, I see little reason to believe that those are his honest opinions after searching for scum.


What do you mean by this? That you don't believe it's ff's honest opinion?

Also if his play is mostly fluff and a lot of his play has mafiay agendas behind it as referenced mainly by lm, the bunnies point is so excellent, then just because other people play a similar way (i don't know why you actually mentioned slam and batsnacks when you have no idea what alignment they are??) doesn't mean he can't be scummy.

Interested why you actually come to this conclusion at all.

Sorry, that sentence should have read "And in the remaining posts, while I disagree, I see little reason to believe that those aren't his honest opinions after searching for scum.

I'll take another look at Fecalfeast, and then move on to some other players.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:28 GMT
#2006
Now he's not even going to post anymore, OK

##vote gb
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:30 GMT
#2007
On December 13 2014 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck man he even says I make no attempt at finding people's alignments but then quizzes me on someone I said had a scummy vote yesterday and I semi town read them and then he scum reads me for that. Only to now say I haven't updated my reads from that at all? Haha


That's cool.

Let him post the second part. Then you can tear it down relentlessly and I can analyze the value in what he's saying.


I've told you I'm in Belgium so my posting is limited. If I don't comment on atrocities and nip them in the bud and point out glaring inconsistencies in posts as they come out then who the fuck will? Not like anyone reads wall of texts about posts being bad anymore.

Why on earth are you shitting on multiple valid points that I'm bringing up?


I'm not shitting on anything. I just want to see the second part of GB's case before I start tackling this predicament.

I'm kind of annoyed that he's doing it this way, tbh. I'm probably not going to be able to look at it until after deadline which really upsets me.


You're literally seeing I'm making valid points on why his case is awful and actually doesn't make any sense from anyone who had a thought process this game and how wrong it is, only to tell me to wait to criticise it altogether and then say you won't be able to even read it.?.???? Wtf


Words words words words words.

His case isn't done so I'm not discrediting it until I can see it in full. I can see what you're posting. It doesn't disappear from my memory when the second part hopefully comes out.

There is literally no reason for you to freak out about this.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:31 GMT
#2008
On December 13 2014 13:28 Holyflare wrote:
Now he's not even going to post anymore, OK

##vote gb


He just said he was at a party, and now he's drunk...

...

I have no idea how this warrants a vote.
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
December 13 2014 04:31 GMT
#2009
On December 13 2014 13:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:13 sicklucker wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


Not really its just the easy lynches tho. Hes so townie


That's not the problem.

Go through his filter. All of his scumreads are incredibly spaced out and based on flimsy evidence, and he never follows up on any of it. The only hard scumread he had all game was Xatalos, in yet he completely abandoned that push over a nonreason and hasn't given him any thought.

Think about scum's objectives and think about town's objectives. Scum's job is to pass suspicion across a large number of players in order to increase the mislynch pool. Town needs to find and lynch scum.

I really don't get the feeling that Vivax is out to lynch scum. His scumreads are way too hazy for that.


Xata replied to my case over multiple posts in a way I found satisfactory and I saw myself being proven wrong in the point that it wasn't a trap play from Kelsier. Simple as that. When I'm wrong I'm wrong and I don't have to cling onto a scumread when proven wrong about my arguments.

Don't know how you want me to follow up on scumreads if not by pointing out to the thread what I find scummy about people in detail which is what I have been doing all game long. We have a lot of players and I take a look at a good amount of them. You are basically suggesting that town should pursue the nonsensical play of having a narrow spectrum of people to suspect in a game of this size, while scum writes about everyone they can.

Since you speak of flimsy evidence, a generalization like that is lazy and basically claims that all of my cases have been like that when you didn't take the time to pick apart my cases in detail. IN FACT, you sheeped my Xatalos case early on and now claim it's part of the "flimsy evidence", effectively claiming you've trusted a case earlier you now say had flimsy evidence.

On December 13 2014 13:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:15 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


What's bad about letting you know the synopsis of what I've been observing this game? I made a summary of different things I pointed out about different people, and instead of leaving it at that effectually achieving nothing cause I seem all over the place and with no clear goal, I'm trying to set a waypoint from where I officially want to go on for today's lynch.

And since I talk about multiple people, it becomes a list post. Which isn't bad in itself if it has a foundation. It just looks like you're bitching about me formatting it as a list rather than the content.


I don't understand what you get out of setting a "waypoint." Clarify?


It makes you all know where I stand and who I would lynch and opens up discussion with me on any of the subjects mentioned, whether people disagree or agree.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:33 GMT
#2010
I'm not freaking out I think it's awful play to not comment on things as they happen because now you have no valid opinion on anything I have said because you refuse to take a stance on half a posted case when the other half won't be posted in forever.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:35 GMT
#2011
Meh, I'm willing to let Vivax play things out a bit more.

I'll be watching.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:35 GMT
#2012
On December 13 2014 13:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:28 Holyflare wrote:
Now he's not even going to post anymore, OK

##vote gb


He just said he was at a party, and now he's drunk...

...

I have no idea how this warrants a vote.


Well I missed the end of his post. Doesn't stop me voting someone who is playing like mafia either way does it?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
December 13 2014 04:36 GMT
#2013
On December 13 2014 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 11:23 Vivax wrote:
@ GB

So you thought froggynoddys entrance was bad but didn't give a shit about him afterwards, also you include arguments for him being scum but only focus on HF today.

Needless to say how that looks to me. Unless you have an explanation for only bringing up that entry as scummy now that you use it in your case against HF.

Not impressed at all.


I wasn't following the thread as I said multiple times, so your argument is invalid. You are also using ad hominem instead considering my whole argument

GUUS IM DEUNK


You aren't following the thread but you say that froggys entrance was bad, his case on templar was ok without you actually giving an opinion on the case or templar, and you followed all of that but you aren't following the thread so you aren't to be held accountable for anything.

Uh huh.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
December 13 2014 04:37 GMT
#2014
On December 13 2014 13:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Meh, I'm willing to let Vivax play things out a bit more.

I'll be watching.


Not so fast, acting all high and mighty as if you are only to be the judge and not to be judged. How can you say everything I do was based on flimsy evidence when you've previously found some of my arguments good and townread me based on some post back then. It's a very drastic 180 ° that brings up questions.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 04:40 GMT
#2015
Viva, if you have questions for me, I am here to answer them, so it's a good time to ask.

I will say, though, that GB looks like a good lynch to me today. Drunk or not. He's managed to have an excuse all game...not sitting well with me at all.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#2016
On December 13 2014 13:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 13:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 13 2014 13:28 Holyflare wrote:
Now he's not even going to post anymore, OK

##vote gb


He just said he was at a party, and now he's drunk...

...

I have no idea how this warrants a vote.


Well I missed the end of his post. Doesn't stop me voting someone who is playing like mafia either way does it?


I'm kind of "eh" on the whole GB is mafia case right now.

@Vivax: that's cool. You're going to have to live with it though.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#2017
On December 13 2014 13:40 rsoultin wrote:
Viva, if you have questions for me, I am here to answer them, so it's a good time to ask.

I will say, though, that GB looks like a good lynch to me today. Drunk or not. He's managed to have an excuse all game...not sitting well with me at all.


Can you give me a quick break down of people that you want to lynch please
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 13 2014 04:45 GMT
#2018
Vivax vote Trfel or no?

Exactly how much of his play in Student Mafia was copy-pasting stuff you wrote? Because Trfel this game is -nothing- like Trfel that game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 13 2014 04:46 GMT
#2019
I have a dream of a perfect mafia game someday where people only post analysis and aren't cocky dicks when being asked relevant game questions.

Guess it will forever be a dream
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 04:49 GMT
#2020
HOLY SRUVK LOLOLOLOL

HF IS MAFAI
I'm adorable.
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