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On December 13 2014 05:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.
Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate. Why are you fishing for marley specifically? Thou'rt thick あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo. "You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight" No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.
I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads... One interesting bit I find in retrospect is this one. He wanted to talk about the 27nb stuff apparently and when catching up with his comment he seems to rehearse what HF said but without taking any opinion on it. 27nb also doesn't appear in his further reasoning. As shown here: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok uhm we can lynch Templar because he is scum
We can lynch bats because he is scum
We can lynch kita because where the fuck is he
We can lynch sicklucker because he is reading but not interacting kthxbai I'd lynch templar because his posts, while long, are full of more fluff than slam's. idk who kita is but it's still early so give him a break I'd lynch sicklucker because I wanted to plynch him last game and he was scum. This reply, in context, is meant to imitate what GB wrote, not really sure if trolling. I'll assume he isn't for now. I really hate posts like these cause they are so ambiguous. It's the sort of stuff people can use to say "but look I have made reads", or if you question their validity they can say "nah man I was just joking as a reply" as they see fit in a specific moment. Needs clearing up from FF. ______________________ Another matter is how he starts the game going after Alakaslam in a dramatic sumo-suit fashion. Again ambiguous so hard to tell if he's joking or serious, assuming serious again, then this later post of his doesn't make much sense: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 08:46 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 08:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Yes they come with great influence but even the sibling is inconvenienced by such things. The awkward intensifies to the sick; the lulz come to those who know
But ultimately my sis decided she would not trade my GF of Christmas past, (B. Friend of hers, I know slam so creepy whatever) because ultimately 100% men take some influence by this whereas legs, butthijole, arms be like 20, 45, 3; but of course ppl vary
Btw who scumreads me yet for wasting posts being vulgar? If no one is shocked by this chile then he DINNAE care anymore because he don't know why it all matters
For shame if there is naebody to FITE Grab the sumo suits, I'm down for a rumble. Why are you wasting posts trying to get people to talk about you wasting posts? Why with everything going on do you not comment on it and instead only post about a joke and focus on fighting slam? Developing a read on slam seems like something nobody can reliably do so I may as well try Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 10:20 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 10:14 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok uhm we can lynch Templar because he is scum
We can lynch bats because he is scum
We can lynch kita because where the fuck is he
We can lynch sicklucker because he is reading but not interacting kthxbai I'd lynch templar because his posts, while long, are full of more fluff than slam's. idk who kita is but it's still early so give him a break I'd lynch sicklucker because I wanted to plynch him last game and he was scum. do you not like slam? please splain to me brochacho I think slam seems the exact same in every game. Any tips for reading him? So he's telling us he can't read Slam but still tries to at the start of the game. Obviously a futile effort. I have the same opinion about reading Slam and my solution to it is to ignore his posts until it really becomes a pressing matter to decide on him. Yet he tries it at the start of the game but sees 27nb as a secondary issue he barely comments on. As of now I'd lynch this guy for making so little sense and talking about stuff that should be irrelevant to him (Alakaslam), and when he pretends it's relevant (comment on 27nb without ever further elaborating something on her) it really isn't. Overall his play is a pain to read and I have a hard time imagining him as town.
Vivax has done it ##Ff
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Why im like a specialist at this point t.t
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Sl can you stop saying the 3rd present owner is mafia when you literally have no idea whether
A) they opened it at all to cc ritokys claim
B) you spent half the day berating ritoky for claiming he had a present but now want the 3rd person to claim for no reason.
It's also perfectly reasonable that they thought ritoky was going to get lynched because I was starting to push him so needed to give the present to him so he could wifom the hell out of the day.
Also a reasonable explanation that now you think rsoultin has tmi and knew you were sending the present to damd that mafia could easily make the plays above without even opening the presents.
You are putting way too much stock into presents this game and far too little actual game analysis.
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I think slams mafia but ive only really ever played with him as his mafia brother so I have no clue. He was obvious that game and he feels obvious this game. Did you really roll scum 3 games inarow slammy baby?
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On December 13 2014 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.
So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.
Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.
Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that.
Okay, so have you considered the scenario where one mafia might give another mafia a present (because obviously giving town one isn't going to be to their advantage). Said mafia could claim it (especially a NK but also a seer cause they know everyone's alignment already), not open it, and pass it on to another mafia again. Thus delaying a potential lynch of the suspicious mafia member another day.
I'm not saying this is what happened, but is it not possible?
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[QUOTE]On December 13 2014 08:20 Tubesock wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 13 2014 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 12 2014 07:55 Tubesock wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 12 2014 05:47 ritoky wrote:
to whomever gave me this present, gonna open it. yolo, wish me luck.
Ritoky my 3rd 100% Nice. Too bad his "present" kills. This isn't that kind of present. Another Nice dies but it wont be FecalFeast, LightningStrike, nor I. We are too important for the Naughty Lynch.
GlowingBear bolds Damdred's meta lie, then sights his previous Arnold role and again sights previous game "Arnie's Got A Gun?". Sicklucker, the naughty friend later reveals he thinks he knows this Arnold.
Both GlowingBear and Sicklucker and NOW The_Templar appear!! Three Naughties and two lurking in the shadows.
Kushm4ster needs to Go West in his Holiday Lear. Somehow won't.
ALPA protects me ssson.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2014 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:People i won't listen about: Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point. On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role. I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon. Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse. Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.
The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point. The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold).
I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)
He calls ritoky town right after he claims wtf I had the opposite reaction and im town so scummy.
Good find. Sicklucker, your fishing constantly all day 1 made me think you are mafia and actually looking for someone to claim as it's such good cover for a mafia night kill. Just say "mafia couldn't have done it, it was the present. He had the death one." No one could know the truth. This is perfect confusion play. Look at the timing. It's 5 minutes prior to night end.
Unfortunately, I was wrong on this play to kill Ritoky. If he had died it would have confirmed my thoughts and be easy evidence against you.
I named FecalFeast, LIghtningStrike and I as survivors as I viewed us three as the best mlynch targets for mafia. We were all over the place but no one was really pushing any scum priority. Why would mafia waste their bullets on us? It's also a safe bet that town wouldn't protect us if that was a possibility.
Why did I post this weird cryptic thing? Well, I counting about 3-4 people from D1 who outright said my posts were garbage and not to be considered. Ouch.
I needed some relevance. Fecal tried to out Alakaslam. And maybe if I could make Slam appear that would provide needed attention. Did it work? uh yeah.
I call out 3 of my scum by name. and say there are 2 in the shadows since it was end of night. GlowingBear and Templar have been constantly and continue to talk about how tired they are, how busy they are, etc. But they are here at the end of night? I don't think it's important for town to be here unless there is a play to be made. So, you will have to decide for yourself if what I'm doing is a play.
I thought Ritoky would die but Kush would not. There was talk from GlowingBear about him being an Arnold or not. More killing role confusion. Kush offers himself as a target probably to get out of the game it turns out. But I read that, as foreshadowing a mafia kill disguised as something else. Then Sick and GlowingBear can claim town rep.
"Go West", "Lear" and "ALPA" are all pilot gibberish, I added ssson to make things obvious that I was talking to Alakaslam. I needed his attention. I bring him out, the town sees me as possibly contributing.
You can only know if any of this is motivated by town or mafia unless you lynch me. Otherwise there is only confusion. This is also why I'm paying more attention to my 4 disclosed mafia.
Hijole I see you now.
I wouldn't have understood because I was turned away at 16 and again at 18; I can tell you lots about control schemes and a few aircraft & how basic aerodynamics works but ultimately without google I wouldn't know a citation from a jet stream, a Lear from a Cessna.
And going west to me simply means a trip to L.A. XD
However I do know what AOPA is
Anyway. Still discovering the last few pages
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On December 13 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
Sl can you stop saying the 3rd present owner is mafia when you literally have no idea whether
A) they opened it at all to cc ritokys claim
B) you spent half the day berating ritoky for claiming he had a present but now want the 3rd person to claim for no reason.
It's also perfectly reasonable that they thought ritoky was going to get lynched because I was starting to push him so needed to give the present to him so he could wifom the hell out of the day.
Also a reasonable explanation that now you think rsoultin has tmi and knew you were sending the present to damd that mafia could easily make the plays above without even opening the presents.
You are putting way too much stock into presents this game and far too little actual game analysis.
Lie I want the original holder to claim not who has it now and since no ones claiming its proving my point its in mafias hands. It may be annoying but i have gained as much info if not more then anyone in this game.
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Something about that post is seriously irrepairable
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On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff.
WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong.
Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself.
GB I don't even think is being that bad.
FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be?
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I believe you are just apathetic, bats...or at least believe it enough not to really want to push you at all today or the next couple most like unless you give me a good reason to, and agree I'd rather lynch someone else before FF at the moment, but I haven't really looked at him as closely as I should if I'm being completely honest here.
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On December 13 2014 14:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.
So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.
Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.
Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that. Okay, so have you considered the scenario where one mafia might give another mafia a present (because obviously giving town one isn't going to be to their advantage). Said mafia could claim it (especially a NK but also a seer cause they know everyone's alignment already), not open it, and pass it on to another mafia again. Thus delaying a potential lynch of the suspicious mafia member another day. I'm not saying this is what happened, but is it not possible?
Yes of course which is why im not saying their for sure town just more likely. Individually they dont seem townie but together they do if that makes sense. Like I have them both null leaning town but together that makes them a pretty strong town. Its really risky and bad to align themselves like this which is more fuel to suspect their town.
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On December 13 2014 14:37 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
Sl can you stop saying the 3rd present owner is mafia when you literally have no idea whether
A) they opened it at all to cc ritokys claim
B) you spent half the day berating ritoky for claiming he had a present but now want the 3rd person to claim for no reason.
It's also perfectly reasonable that they thought ritoky was going to get lynched because I was starting to push him so needed to give the present to him so he could wifom the hell out of the day.
Also a reasonable explanation that now you think rsoultin has tmi and knew you were sending the present to damd that mafia could easily make the plays above without even opening the presents.
You are putting way too much stock into presents this game and far too little actual game analysis. Lie I want the original holder to claim not who has it now and since no ones claiming its proving my point its in mafias hands. It may be annoying but i have gained as much info if not more then anyone in this game.
Yes keep on trucking with this train of thought when you don't even realise that one of the people not claiming to send the present could be dead.
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On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be?
I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia.
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On December 13 2014 14:42 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:35 rsoultin wrote:On December 13 2014 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.
So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.
Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.
Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that. Okay, so have you considered the scenario where one mafia might give another mafia a present (because obviously giving town one isn't going to be to their advantage). Said mafia could claim it (especially a NK but also a seer cause they know everyone's alignment already), not open it, and pass it on to another mafia again. Thus delaying a potential lynch of the suspicious mafia member another day. I'm not saying this is what happened, but is it not possible? Yes of course which is why im not saying their for sure town just more likely. Individually they dont seem townie but together they do if that makes sense. Like I have them both null leaning town but together that makes them a pretty strong town. Its really risky and bad to align themselves like this which is more fuel to suspect their town.
Well, much as I'm tempted to call that WIFOM SL...pretty much everything to do with presents is WIFOM, so I can't fault you that much. Please try to make some more real reads though.
The multiple calls to all roleclaim from GB is almost enough in and of itself to justify my lynching him, given the doubts I have regarding so many others playing right now. Maybe his case will convince me otherwise...but it'd have to be one hell of a case.
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You know what
I think ff has basically been caught being artificially useful
Vivax town FTW
K
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On December 13 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
I think slams mafia but ive only really ever played with him as his mafia brother so I have no clue. He was obvious that game and he feels obvious this game. Did you really roll scum 3 games inarow slammy baby?
It is possible, obviously, however exceedingly unlikely.
And I am not quitting lol- it seems I have an irl shitstorm every time a scumgame goes bad. But since this isn't one I am content. It is indeed a policy of mine; lynch me before lylo plz
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On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be? I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia.
This is the 100%
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On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be? I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia.
I remember everything Lonemeow said.
You'd vote FF over Trfel though?
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On December 13 2014 14:53 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be? I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia. I remember everything Lonemeow said. You'd vote FF over Trfel though?
Most definitely
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