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On December 14 2014 04:36 Tubesock wrote:
bah, can you see who and how Sick is protecting and pushing to die? In the context of JUST that page?
Sick thinks GB and ritoky are town. He thinks I'm scum. He can't do that as town? (By the way, he has since changed his read on me. Maybe I'm mafia now  ) His reasoning is flawed, but his opinion mirrors many others' in the thread. I'm not going to push SL just to try to validate my reads on GB and ritoky.
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Meh this is turning into a mess.
GB thinks HF <- see his reasons. I don't agree with them and won't explain them correctly, and he should have a say if he really believes that
I think Trfel <- He's been given enough leeway and lurking is drastically different from the way I've seen him play (plus my other scum reads are not getting lynched any more than kel is)
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You have two hours, GB. You can make a case in two hours -_- Good lord.
I am not in favor of turning what I believe to be a mislynch into what I believe to be another mislynch. And you accuse me of tunnelvision.
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On December 14 2014 05:00 liancourt wrote:
Consolidate on kel cos tube is putting a lot of effort and mafia well tend not to do that when they have a majority.
Case, lian. Same could be said of Trfel which will help consolidate votes. You're the only one pushing kel right now.
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Don't think you have to, GB.
Well, y'all can look at me for my outlier vote, then, cause I'm not voting SL, Tube or HF today. HF in particular has done a great job of fooling me if he's scum so...
friggin -_- whatever. Staying on trfel for now, will consolidate to a null read if I have to (and one is available) over my town reads.
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On December 14 2014 05:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Like that was looking for a reason o vote tube or HF versus ???
Probably kelsier or FF
Tellin Ya folks, ppl up for a bats switch
No.
Simply, no. Much as lynching bats can be fun...I want scum today.
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Then don't vote for HF. I'm not voting for bats, tube, SL or HF. And...good lord.
Okay, I will vote for trfel today. I will vote for vivax today. I will vote for KSC today. <- these are concessions that they are null leaning scum reads. Can we get to two trains or are we going to play scattershot or worst of two bad choices?
GB and ritoky I'd prefer but I don't see them happening.
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##unvote
##vote: KSC
^ My concession. Those on HF or Tube who don't really think they're scum, please jump on.
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On December 14 2014 05:30 Xatalos wrote:
What's the case on HF really? I wasn't impressed with anything posted against him earlier and I think he said he's now at his post limit... So it'd definitely be the optimal time for a mislynch on him (assuming, which is pretty likely, that there are scum pushing his wagon when it's gained steam so easily despite no good reason).
On the other hand, Tube's recent posting has been so crazy and frantic that I can kind of see it coming more from town than scum...... Well, I don't like how he's throwing his vote pretty much anywhere it sticks, but he doesn't look like he cares much for his appearance. That's usually associated with town.
I wouldn't lynch SL, HF or KSC now. Perhaps Tube is town too after all. rsoultin, is your case on Trfel basically about his inactivity? I think I'd rather lynch FF than him for reasons previously mentioned.
##Unvote
##Vote Fecalfeast
I'll be phoneposting when I can until deadline.
It is and it isn't and I know why you're voting FF, I just don't see it as a strong case. But neither is my trfel one. With him, it's inactivity and meta (I've only seen him super try-hard before). It's also that he keeps saying he'll post cases/reads and doesn't. That his only read at all was FF, and town of all things. Okay, he can read him town, but why is that his only read? And that he spends more time telling us how lost he is and that we shouldn't lynch him (but would be justified to) than actually playing.
But if that's not enough for you, I can do FF. I just don't want to do one of my townreads...and that is where all the blasted wagons are going right now ><
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FF is the only one people can agree on I think.
Bats, Xata...HTS already voted that way...FF then?
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Alright. Well...he's not my first choice but at least he's not one of my town reads...and I have townreads not up for lynch voting for him too. I'll trust y'all and try to save the guys I trust.
##unvote
##vote FF
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On December 14 2014 05:49 GlowingBear wrote:PART 2Odd final count analysis and lack of push on town agendaShow nested quote +On December 11 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia. So you're saying that even though I spent 2-3 pages of filter PREVIOUSLY talking about bunnies all game the fact that I only spent a few long posts on her LATER when she had only posted like a page or less since I left with a lot of fluff in it makes me mafia? Why are you using the the latter half of the game to justify a read on me that should span the whole game? Have you even bothered to check the timestamps of when I've been around, I was sick all day and literally posted as much as I could on as many people I could in the time frame that I've been here (without trying to devolve into spammyness) I can't believe you'd ever make this read as town. Ever. It literally shows no progression of thought process at all and is a rough job of a case that is based on falsities twisted to fit your narrative. There is no way on this planet that a town ritoky would make this case. Just like the case you made on LS using exclusively meta reads. None of these things you are saying make anyone scum yet you're pushing them so vehemently that it's making YOU look scummy instead. I hope someone shoots this guy (ritoky) btw. On December 11 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Oatsmaster I got a Null read on him due to him not as much as he did on his town games but I guess the limit on the post number on each persons filter making try to conserve his posts a lot more than normal he did have some nice questions but he also made a weird call on Vivax being scum so idk what the true nature of his read on him is.
KSC I got him scum right now since most of his posts were more fluff than anything and he didn't ask good questions except once towards me but he also had a I told you so attitude on the lynch of 27ninja before the lynch which one of the scum members in the Campus Mafia game said about me when I was getting lynched kind of tells me he is scum at this point.
I dunno about oats anymore. My point on him was made kinda moot by xata so he's really just a ?. Don't like his wasted vote on vivax after saying he looked towny at all though. In fact there were a LOT of wasted votes. ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, Fecalfeast27ninjabunnies (10): batsnacks, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, Holyflare, batsnacks, Half the Sky, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Vivax, Koshi, Alakaslam, Xatalos, Tubesock, Tubesock, Trfel Half the Sky (0): batsnacks, Xatalos, KoshiThe_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy sicklucker (0): rsoultin, ObiWanShinobiObiWanShinobi (0): rsoultinVivax (1): Oatsmaster LightningStrike (0): ritoky, Alakaslamsicklucker (0): LightningStrikeliancourt (0): LightningStrikeGlowingBear (1): Damdred Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC KelsierSC (3): The_Templar, 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam Xatalos (4): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, Fecalfeast, rsoultin, Tubesockfroggynoddy (1): Half the Sky kush, gb, froggy, oats, damd, ritoky, lonemeow, kelsiersc, ls, slam, obi, vivax, fecal, rsoul, htsgonna check out all of those filters at some point to see their views on bunnies and why they weren't on her/what they were doing, kinda bad to still be on xata after he kinda adequately explained every accusation against him tbh and those rogue 1 and 2 voters that are on targets that were barely ever pushed at all (gb, froggy, hts) look terrible A good way to catch mafia is looking at who wasted their votes on the final votecount of a day. This looks like an attempt to do that. But, you see, he oddly points out EVERY other person outside the main wagon, which is NOT a reasonable thing, specially when we are talking about such strong player as Holyflare. Following his logic, me, frog and hts looks terrible. This is him stablishing the town agenda. In fact, our wasted votes looks terrible. Reminder: he didn't like froggynoddy's entrance either. But look at how inconsistent is his play: he stablishes town agenda, but pushes his own agenda (pushing ritoky). He does NOTHING to see these 3 people's alignment. He is NOT interested in these 3 people's alignment. He is just interested to look like an aggressive townie pushing ritoky, but he is actually not trying to solve the game. He is not trying to discover ritoky's alignment. He is just pushing for the sake of pushing someone. Why this comes from a mafia?: Mafia tends to look contributive but lacks the town intention for solving the game. He simply displays 3 names people should take a look at but does not go after those names. He is disinterested in solving the game, to discover people's alignment. That's not a townie. A townie would go against those 3 names he spoke of. He just posted this analysis because he wants to look contributive. Town read on froggynoddyWhen I noticed these patterns, I inquired him for reads on froggynoddy and Vivax. This is his response: Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare
Your reads on froggynoddy and vivax, please. I have no idea how this is relevant in the slightest when I've made it pretty clear who i think mafia are. Either way, froggy is a kindaaaa towny/i dunno read. He writes quite long posts to say not much but I dunno how to explain that I don't want to lynch him other than saying his posts look innocent enough and to the point. He also wanted people to talk to him about his templar read that he's been pushing around the deadline which was cool and I kinda regret not talking to him more, he also said something around the bunnies lynch which i forget that made it seem like he was actually thinking about the game. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult stuff to post as mafia but it seems pretty genuine to me. Vivax has been pushing people that I agree look scummy (- xatalos) but his reasons for doing it look like he's putting in the effort to find out inconsistencies. After a few games where we've been wrong on each other I think we've just resorted to ignoring the other and are just gonna base it on overall play. Well I am anyway. Not really bothered to elaborate further. You see, he was scumreading froggy noddy, said he looked terrible by his wasted vote, BUT CALLS HIM TOWN WHEN ASKED FOR A READ. This is someone who is NOT consistent with his reads. This is someone who gives fabricated reads and forgets them, or someone who doesn't want to scumread a possible partner. I know for a fact that Holyflare does this a lot. He scumreads a partner to further townread him. Remember: HE HAD NO ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER FROGGY'S ALIGNMENT. He started having this townread on him out of nothing, which is completely scummy. I'm sure you can understand mafia motivation behind it. Scumread on me This is hilarious. I want you to check these two posts regarding me, from the most recent to the oldest: Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
I can only assume someone pushing so much false information is mafia. Much like ritoky who even when presented with multiple pieces of evidence to show that his meta was wrong continued to push his scum read on me. Not to mention his initial contradictory stance on how he has a super solid meta read on me but was fooled last game even though he said that meta read existed then too. Glad to see absolutely nobody in this game is paying attention to that. Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-
Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.
Ls looks not bad to me, dunno why people are hating on him giving all the meta when loads of other people do the same. Ritoky seems angry for some reason because of this??
Obi still being useless, just because he was useless last game (russian) as town doesn't stop him being able to be useless this game as mafia. It just means he's useless which increases the odds of him being mafia.
Kush.. Meh will resolve itself i think
Gb hasn't really done anything but hasn't done anything outrageously wrong like I'd expect him to as town but his picking on solely koshi and like nothing else is wearing thin and is pretty scummy
I dunno feel kinda iffy about hts after reading the things about kush feels a bit too flippant
New list oats, obi, (gb?) bunnies
Mehhhhbe/mehhhhbe not: hts, kush
HAHAHA HE SAYS IT'S A TOWN TRAIT FOR ME FOR BEING OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG, BUT WHEN HE THINKS I'M OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG THE SCUMREADS ME. This is the most inconsistent thing I have ever seen. He didn't scumread me because I acted scummy. He scumread me because he felt I was getting close to him. He is trying to discredit me and to survive, and not to figure out my alignment. Town perspective would be evaluate my action and figure out my alignment for something he already knows about my gameplay. Mafia perspective is "I'm getting caught, I have to make this guy look bad" ##VOTE: HOLYFLARE RIGHT NOW!!!!
GB...your logic is nuts.
1. HF wanted to look at the wasted votes. He did not say that everyone "wasting" votes was scum. Nor would any sane person believe that. Froggy has barely posted.
2. Comparing an early read on you when you'd barely posted to a much later read on you does not prove inconsistency at all.
This is not a good case.
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On December 14 2014 06:00 Tubesock wrote:You believe FF is mafia more so than Lightningstrike? They are each basically interchangeable for me.
Key difference: LS has made an uncontested claim. I do wonder where the heck he went off to, though.
And @SL
Dude, just cause you're unlikely to be lynched any time in the near future, I wouldn't write off you getting NKd.
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On December 14 2014 06:02 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:58 rsoultin wrote:On December 14 2014 05:49 GlowingBear wrote:PART 2Odd final count analysis and lack of push on town agendaOn December 11 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying right here in the thread that the fact that I updated my read with my own tidbits + what other people had said makes me mafia? ahahahaha how many posts do you think bunnies made in that time frame? 1000? how many posts do I have to spend in a post limited game explaining things that other people are saying + adding my own things on? also the stuff that I said kita mentioned I fleshed out more in that post so it was actually my original thoughts and not just the bolded which you seem to imply it is
also, her points on kelsier were crap, the fact that I'm starting to scum read him now is totally irrelevant to her case being crap at all because it purely involves her flipping town and the stuff he said previous to her flipping
I find it hard to believe you could believe anything you are typing at all. she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep. further as town you are one of the largest proponents of using your vote as a means of pressuring people into giving information, and you felt perfectly fine leaving it on a town. like you're just plain mafia. So you're saying that even though I spent 2-3 pages of filter PREVIOUSLY talking about bunnies all game the fact that I only spent a few long posts on her LATER when she had only posted like a page or less since I left with a lot of fluff in it makes me mafia? Why are you using the the latter half of the game to justify a read on me that should span the whole game? Have you even bothered to check the timestamps of when I've been around, I was sick all day and literally posted as much as I could on as many people I could in the time frame that I've been here (without trying to devolve into spammyness) I can't believe you'd ever make this read as town. Ever. It literally shows no progression of thought process at all and is a rough job of a case that is based on falsities twisted to fit your narrative. There is no way on this planet that a town ritoky would make this case. Just like the case you made on LS using exclusively meta reads. None of these things you are saying make anyone scum yet you're pushing them so vehemently that it's making YOU look scummy instead. I hope someone shoots this guy (ritoky) btw. On December 11 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Oatsmaster I got a Null read on him due to him not as much as he did on his town games but I guess the limit on the post number on each persons filter making try to conserve his posts a lot more than normal he did have some nice questions but he also made a weird call on Vivax being scum so idk what the true nature of his read on him is.
KSC I got him scum right now since most of his posts were more fluff than anything and he didn't ask good questions except once towards me but he also had a I told you so attitude on the lynch of 27ninja before the lynch which one of the scum members in the Campus Mafia game said about me when I was getting lynched kind of tells me he is scum at this point.
I dunno about oats anymore. My point on him was made kinda moot by xata so he's really just a ?. Don't like his wasted vote on vivax after saying he looked towny at all though. In fact there were a LOT of wasted votes. ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, Fecalfeast27ninjabunnies (10): batsnacks, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, Holyflare, batsnacks, Half the Sky, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Vivax, Koshi, Alakaslam, Xatalos, Tubesock, Tubesock, Trfel Half the Sky (0): batsnacks, Xatalos, KoshiThe_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy sicklucker (0): rsoultin, ObiWanShinobiObiWanShinobi (0): rsoultinVivax (1): Oatsmaster LightningStrike (0): ritoky, Alakaslamsicklucker (0): LightningStrikeliancourt (0): LightningStrikeGlowingBear (1): Damdred Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC KelsierSC (3): The_Templar, 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam Xatalos (4): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, Fecalfeast, rsoultin, Tubesockfroggynoddy (1): Half the Sky kush, gb, froggy, oats, damd, ritoky, lonemeow, kelsiersc, ls, slam, obi, vivax, fecal, rsoul, htsgonna check out all of those filters at some point to see their views on bunnies and why they weren't on her/what they were doing, kinda bad to still be on xata after he kinda adequately explained every accusation against him tbh and those rogue 1 and 2 voters that are on targets that were barely ever pushed at all (gb, froggy, hts) look terrible A good way to catch mafia is looking at who wasted their votes on the final votecount of a day. This looks like an attempt to do that. But, you see, he oddly points out EVERY other person outside the main wagon, which is NOT a reasonable thing, specially when we are talking about such strong player as Holyflare. Following his logic, me, frog and hts looks terrible. This is him stablishing the town agenda. In fact, our wasted votes looks terrible. Reminder: he didn't like froggynoddy's entrance either. But look at how inconsistent is his play: he stablishes town agenda, but pushes his own agenda (pushing ritoky). He does NOTHING to see these 3 people's alignment. He is NOT interested in these 3 people's alignment. He is just interested to look like an aggressive townie pushing ritoky, but he is actually not trying to solve the game. He is not trying to discover ritoky's alignment. He is just pushing for the sake of pushing someone. Why this comes from a mafia?: Mafia tends to look contributive but lacks the town intention for solving the game. He simply displays 3 names people should take a look at but does not go after those names. He is disinterested in solving the game, to discover people's alignment. That's not a townie. A townie would go against those 3 names he spoke of. He just posted this analysis because he wants to look contributive. Town read on froggynoddyWhen I noticed these patterns, I inquired him for reads on froggynoddy and Vivax. This is his response: On December 12 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare
Your reads on froggynoddy and vivax, please. I have no idea how this is relevant in the slightest when I've made it pretty clear who i think mafia are. Either way, froggy is a kindaaaa towny/i dunno read. He writes quite long posts to say not much but I dunno how to explain that I don't want to lynch him other than saying his posts look innocent enough and to the point. He also wanted people to talk to him about his templar read that he's been pushing around the deadline which was cool and I kinda regret not talking to him more, he also said something around the bunnies lynch which i forget that made it seem like he was actually thinking about the game. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult stuff to post as mafia but it seems pretty genuine to me. Vivax has been pushing people that I agree look scummy (- xatalos) but his reasons for doing it look like he's putting in the effort to find out inconsistencies. After a few games where we've been wrong on each other I think we've just resorted to ignoring the other and are just gonna base it on overall play. Well I am anyway. Not really bothered to elaborate further. You see, he was scumreading froggy noddy, said he looked terrible by his wasted vote, BUT CALLS HIM TOWN WHEN ASKED FOR A READ. This is someone who is NOT consistent with his reads. This is someone who gives fabricated reads and forgets them, or someone who doesn't want to scumread a possible partner. I know for a fact that Holyflare does this a lot. He scumreads a partner to further townread him. Remember: HE HAD NO ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER FROGGY'S ALIGNMENT. He started having this townread on him out of nothing, which is completely scummy. I'm sure you can understand mafia motivation behind it. Scumread on me This is hilarious. I want you to check these two posts regarding me, from the most recent to the oldest: On December 13 2014 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
I can only assume someone pushing so much false information is mafia. Much like ritoky who even when presented with multiple pieces of evidence to show that his meta was wrong continued to push his scum read on me. Not to mention his initial contradictory stance on how he has a super solid meta read on me but was fooled last game even though he said that meta read existed then too. Glad to see absolutely nobody in this game is paying attention to that. On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-
Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.
Ls looks not bad to me, dunno why people are hating on him giving all the meta when loads of other people do the same. Ritoky seems angry for some reason because of this??
Obi still being useless, just because he was useless last game (russian) as town doesn't stop him being able to be useless this game as mafia. It just means he's useless which increases the odds of him being mafia.
Kush.. Meh will resolve itself i think
Gb hasn't really done anything but hasn't done anything outrageously wrong like I'd expect him to as town but his picking on solely koshi and like nothing else is wearing thin and is pretty scummy
I dunno feel kinda iffy about hts after reading the things about kush feels a bit too flippant
New list oats, obi, (gb?) bunnies
Mehhhhbe/mehhhhbe not: hts, kush
HAHAHA HE SAYS IT'S A TOWN TRAIT FOR ME FOR BEING OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG, BUT WHEN HE THINKS I'M OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG THE SCUMREADS ME. This is the most inconsistent thing I have ever seen. He didn't scumread me because I acted scummy. He scumread me because he felt I was getting close to him. He is trying to discredit me and to survive, and not to figure out my alignment. Town perspective would be evaluate my action and figure out my alignment for something he already knows about my gameplay. Mafia perspective is "I'm getting caught, I have to make this guy look bad" ##VOTE: HOLYFLARE RIGHT NOW!!!! GB...your logic is nuts. 1. HF wanted to look at the wasted votes. He did not say that everyone "wasting" votes was scum. Nor would any sane person believe that. Froggy has barely posted. 2. Comparing an early read on you when you'd barely posted to a much later read on you does not prove inconsistency at all. This is not a good case. I'm starting to believe you're misinterpreting me on purpose. 1) Looking at wasted votes = he has suspicions. He did nothing to figure out those people's alignment. 2) It's not a thing of early read. It's that he says I'm town when I do something outrageously wrong. I do something outrageously wrong in his conception and he scumreads me. Explain me this logic, because it's absurd. Also, I forgot to say about the push on ritoky at night but not questioning the present opening thing, which is ridiculous when you have such a strong scumread. You'll have to agree with me on this because you also felt that thing was wrong.
I do agree with you on his not questioning ritoky's claim, GB.
I cannot blame a soul for scumreading you when you're pushing mass role claims, though. You may be right that his push on both you and ritoky was reactionary. I don't know. But I do know that I don't see this as overwhelmingly scummy.
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On December 14 2014 06:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Seriously.
READ MY CASE.
VOTE HOLYFLARE OR POINT OUT WHY MY CASE IS WRONG.
I absolutely refuse to be bullied or intimidated by a player who WILL NOT consider any other lynches or trains but the one he has been pushing from (nearly) the start of the day, after a brief but ultimately lukewarm prodding at ritoky.
I DO NOT believe that you give something to potential mafia (read: null reads) because that is just as stupid as telling everyone to mass claim.
I DO NOT LIKE the way you keep trying to pressure everyone to play the way you want them to play, threatening them.
I may be wrong about you as scum, but your legitimacy in my eyes is ZERO. And I'm not sure why others would let you strongarm them into things either.
I can respect people voting HF who believe he's scum. I cannot respect your style of play.
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On December 14 2014 06:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On December 14 2014 06:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Seriously.
READ MY CASE.
VOTE HOLYFLARE OR POINT OUT WHY MY CASE IS WRONG. I absolutely refuse to be bullied or intimidated by a player who WILL NOT consider any other lynches or trains but the one he has been pushing from (nearly) the start of the day, after a brief but ultimately lukewarm prodding at ritoky. I DO NOT believe that you give something to potential mafia (read: null reads) because that is just as stupid as telling everyone to mass claim. I DO NOT LIKE the way you keep trying to pressure everyone to play the way you want them to play, threatening them. I may be wrong about you as scum, but your legitimacy in my eyes is ZERO. And I'm not sure why others would let you strongarm them into things either. I can respect people voting HF who believe he's scum. I cannot respect your style of play. What do you think of froggynoddy?
I hardly remember what he's posted, frankly. Something weird caught my eye earlier but I can't recall what it was, lol.
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Yeah...just totally gonna be obstinate about this and not give GB the time of day until he can act like an adult. Yes, Trfel's case on KSC was pretty good.
That is more like the Trfel I know 
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@Xata
Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.
I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already.
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Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC
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On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion.
You don't understand this game then, Tube. The point is to kill off all the scum. They're gonna get at least two town tonight if not more, and that's assuming that our vig if we have one doesn't get another. I don't want to lose town if I can help it, even if I don't agree with what they're saying.
The point is to win, not punish ppl for thinking differently than you do.
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