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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 00:16 GMT
#3482
On December 16 2014 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
I do actually have a case...ironically with more than just a few points and only town gives town presents argument. Are people willing to entertain a case against GB or should I reserve it for the night phase, before I'm possibly shot at again?


you weren't shot at, i never shot
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 00:21 GMT
#3488
On December 16 2014 09:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:16 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
I do actually have a case...ironically with more than just a few points and only town gives town presents argument. Are people willing to entertain a case against GB or should I reserve it for the night phase, before I'm possibly shot at again?


you weren't shot at, i never shot


How many times is your story going to change, ritoky?


did you not read the thread, already explained my shitty play.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 00:31 GMT
#3498
On December 16 2014 09:31 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, I'm going to grab some things to make dinner, but then I'll come back and post my case with the quotes that I still need to rustle up. That said...

##unvote
##vote: ritoky


You shot at me after being allegedly roleblocked and receiving a PM. Something in there is worth lynching you over. Perhaps the simple fact that you are lying or have lied. Why do you choose me to claim taking a shot at, then? There still has to be some reasoning in there somewhere.

Regardless, bbl.


You didn't read my post even after I told you to go read it....lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 00:42 GMT
#3507
On December 16 2014 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:31 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:31 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, I'm going to grab some things to make dinner, but then I'll come back and post my case with the quotes that I still need to rustle up. That said...

##unvote
##vote: ritoky


You shot at me after being allegedly roleblocked and receiving a PM. Something in there is worth lynching you over. Perhaps the simple fact that you are lying or have lied. Why do you choose me to claim taking a shot at, then? There still has to be some reasoning in there somewhere.

Regardless, bbl.


You didn't read my post even after I told you to go read it....lol


I did, sweet cheeks. I read that you are now claiming that you've been lying all along to cover for making a mistake and trying to reserve your shot. And that you delayed revealing who you shot at because you had to figure out a plausible target. So again. Why do you choose me to claim taking a shot at, then? <- Note the phrasing is exactly the same as in the post you just quoted.

Perhaps I should have used the word DID to make my question more clear.


Because I don't understand your reads. You think the case on HF is bad, and hardly explain why it is bad; nor do you say you agree with HF's points. You've been less than committal on me and GB being mafia even though you spam it repeatedly. You scum read Xata for lynching mafia and not lynching a person you think is town. You have an unexplained town read on SL who I have no idea what the hell he is doing all game other than spamming nonsense full of confirmation bias and reading nothing anyone posts.

And that isn't even going back through your filter, that's just the stuff I remember off the top of my head. If I had shot, you would have been on the short list.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 01:09 GMT
#3523
On December 16 2014 09:53 rsoultin wrote:
1. I've addressed GBs case on HF in-thread.
2. Not sure how I've been less than committal on you and GB. The burden of proof is on you, because I think my "commitment" has been rather obvious.
3. I said right in my Xata read that I'm not necessarily reading him as scum, just that his play is very cautious and that raised doubts.
4. I have since apologized to Tube, and even explained what I thought and where I've gone wrong with my read on SL. Not to mention I said earlier that it was meta and he was the only one I was comfortable meta-reading.

So clearly you do need to go through my filter or read the thread yourself.


1. Cursory glance through your filter suggests you addressing it was like a 3 sentence paragraph on how you thought it was poor. For the volume of the content in that post, and the level to which you apparently believe the exact opposite; it should warrant a much larger response.

2. There's a difference between stating a read and pushing a read. 1 is committal the other isn't. You're have not been pushing your read. Given your filter length and post count, I would assume that you have been pushing a lot harder than you actually have.

3. Right, I get that. But you realize Xata was in a position to hammer HF who you think is town; or Kels who is confirmed mafia. He hammers Kels. In your eyes he should be supremely town. Yet you go through this giant elaborate process to null read him on the grounds that he was a primary cause of lynching mafia....I can't even comprehend this read.

4. So you're saying that rather than your thread content read which gave you town on SL; now....multiple days into the game, you're going to defer to a meta-read?

I wish I had shot you
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 01:24 GMT
#3530
On December 16 2014 10:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 16 2014 10:09 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:53 rsoultin wrote:
1. I've addressed GBs case on HF in-thread.
2. Not sure how I've been less than committal on you and GB. The burden of proof is on you, because I think my "commitment" has been rather obvious.
3. I said right in my Xata read that I'm not necessarily reading him as scum, just that his play is very cautious and that raised doubts.
4. I have since apologized to Tube, and even explained what I thought and where I've gone wrong with my read on SL. Not to mention I said earlier that it was meta and he was the only one I was comfortable meta-reading.

So clearly you do need to go through my filter or read the thread yourself.


1. Cursory glance through your filter suggests you addressing it was like a 3 sentence paragraph on how you thought it was poor. For the volume of the content in that post, and the level to which you apparently believe the exact opposite; it should warrant a much larger response.

2. There's a difference between stating a read and pushing a read. 1 is committal the other isn't. You're have not been pushing your read. Given your filter length and post count, I would assume that you have been pushing a lot harder than you actually have.

3. Right, I get that. But you realize Xata was in a position to hammer HF who you think is town; or Kels who is confirmed mafia. He hammers Kels. In your eyes he should be supremely town. Yet you go through this giant elaborate process to null read him on the grounds that he was a primary cause of lynching mafia....I can't even comprehend this read.

4. So you're saying that rather than your thread content read which gave you town on SL; now....multiple days into the game, you're going to defer to a meta-read?

I wish I had shot you

1. His case was underwhelming, and didn't require a large response. I was not the only one who thought that, clearly.
2. Not linking the quotes pushing, but there were plenty.
3. Doubts is not a null read. It is, quite simply, doubts.
4. I am saying that my initial read was based on meta. Read my filter.

This is my last response to either of you @ritoky & GB. I asked people if they wanted the case I'd made against GB, stating that I still needed to rustle up the quotes, well before GB came back into the thread.

It wasn't a bad try at sucking me into a back-and-forth, though. Kudos to you both for the attempt.


1. It was large enough to almost lynch someone who you think was town....and you think it is from a mafia agenda....like the fact that you're not going out of your way to massively discredit it only proves that you're not pushing your read on GB in particular.
2. Link them, make the case on GB, why are you threatening to give reads instead of actually giving them?
3. WHY ARE YOU NULL READING SOMEONE WHO HAMMERS SCUM INSTEAD OF SOMEONE YOU THINK IS TOWN?
4. Your new read is also based on meta, you say he is not as paranoid as last time and then link a game.

Then you're going to not continue speaking or make your case....how is this town at all?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 20:52 GMT
#3667
On December 17 2014 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
How many people are scum reading ritoky but not HF?

If this is true for you pls explain why you are scum reading ritoky.

@ritoky please walk me through from the beginning exactly what happened with you claiming and how much of what youve said is true. Start from when you first received the present, if you even did receive a present.


Start of game, got role pm.

Played day 1

Beginning of Night 1, got pm saying had present

Thought about it all night, said yolo opening present.

Got lambasted by every1 in the game even though they didn't read my reasons

Night 2 begins, thought I could be cute to get around the RB and hold the shot

Night 2 ends, shot disappears

Day 3, everyone spamming me for info, I panic and explain it away while slightly intoxicated from the seahawks game.

Everyone votes me cuz I played terrible enough to deserve it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#3671
rsoultin's reads make 0 sense, he is potentially mafia

sl is trying to ride a dumb tell for town cred too hard, he is potentially mafia

there's a mafia between oats and froggy and maybe ls but less likely ls cuz roleclaim

hf is still probably mafia

if one of those fails the last one is ff
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2014 20:58 GMT
#3673
On December 17 2014 05:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:56 ritoky wrote:
rsoultin's reads make 0 sense, he is potentially mafia

sl is trying to ride a dumb tell for town cred too hard, he is potentially mafia

there's a mafia between oats and froggy and maybe ls but less likely ls cuz roleclaim

hf is still probably mafia

if one of those fails the last one is ff

That is sickluckers meta man you gotta meta read him


weren't you the one who said he wasn't playing his meta?

he is probz mafia with you defending him
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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