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The_Templar
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December 14 2014 03:32 GMT
#2781
On December 14 2014 12:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 11:01 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.






This guy has also pretty confirmed me as town

...at the beginning of day 1 -_-


I hadn't done much, he doesn't know my scum meta at all. He knows I rekt him last time as mafia. This guy 100% confirms me as town and gb knows it. I made this EXACT same read last game on why someone was town because of mafia giving reads like this and gb overlooked it only to get told off by marv and gb said:

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On December 03 2014 11:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 03 2014 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
On December 03 2014 10:02 Damdred wrote:
Nah I blame myself should of pushed things harder d1 and explained what I thought more I would of been ok, I got really annoyed d1

maybe, but the whole rayn thing was the only reason you got lynched d2, you couldn't have played much better

one small bit of advice, make sure you pay attention to what other ppl are saying. main example is you were scumreading superbia and jat? or hf? gave a really good reason why superbia was town based on some stuff rayn did, but you didn't appear to acknowledge it at all in your read of him.


This actually is a huge advice to me.



I refuse to believe that he has forgotten such "huge advice" in the span of this 1 game. He literally even says that his fucking read on me about froggy is WRONG and a lie!!!!,!! Like wtfh "sorry guys i was wrong about that so yehhh..." "hf still scum though!"

Now his analysis is that mafia either voted me or didn't? Puh lease. That guy isn't town.

How is "feels like town hf to me" confirming you as 100% town? Especially as you shot that post down already...
On December 09 2014 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.





Do you know how I play as mafia? This seems pretty baseless if you do and even more so if you don't.

I don't get your point on GB.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 14 2014 03:33 GMT
#2782
On December 14 2014 12:27 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, I'm probably being really thick here, but why does KelsierSC saying that Holyflare is town provide any evidence that Holyflare is town? Couldn't he just be trying to make the town opinion favor his mafia buddy?

this too
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The_Templar
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December 14 2014 05:28 GMT
#2821
On December 14 2014 14:23 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 14 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


obi is super town or super bussed his team mate.

but since i think HF is scum and the fact that obi didnt want to vote HF earlier before thread sentiment was on kel i'm inlcined to think obi super bussed kel.

But lets see how HF flips.

Rit shoot HF

Vig can find someone else hopefully. Oh wait mafia might have RB so...vig shoot HF and rit find someone else to shoot.


Are you just oblivious to everything I'm writing?


I can ask you the same thing. Why are you so mad that we lynched a mafia? We have 3 days till the next lynch. If you are town, why are you so worried and frustrated? Because town was successful today?

I feel vindicated. Unless you show me some reason to come back and post, I probably won't. I made my case. Your turn.

The game isn't over.
Your turn.
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The_Templar
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December 14 2014 06:00 GMT
#2839
On December 14 2014 14:59 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 14 2014 14:33 rsoultin wrote:
On December 14 2014 14:26 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:08 ritoky wrote:
I would like everyone to post who they think I should shoot tonight and why.


Like honestly be careful I think you might hit a big power role like santa. I think none of ff, tube, hf are power roles or would have claimed already. Those are good targets.


I am a good target to keep alive for mafia. I die, it gives MASSIVE credence to my case.


Lol this thought process is still one that amuses me greatly. Tube, dude...night kills are not the best judge of who is right and who is wrong. The most valuable information they give is the alignment of the players killed, so you can then read what they've said and done through the context of a flipped alignment.

Have you stopped to consider that if you do die tonight we won't even know (most like) who actually killed you unless they flat-out claim that they did? xP


No actually. I read it as a confirmation that I'm on the right track and a threat to mafia.

Is there any situation that would suggest to you that you are not correct?
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The_Templar
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December 15 2014 01:15 GMT
#3072
##Vote: TubeSock
Still waiting for him to do something that I consider towny.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 01:59 GMT
#3101
On December 15 2014 10:51 sicklucker wrote:
Well cant he just fire random bullits and hope to get likely? are veg could have also possibly killed one of the non kush towns. But this does worry me

According to that wording, he can only kill people that say they're disgruntled.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 02:59 GMT
#3125
On December 15 2014 11:54 Half the Sky wrote:
And as I part for the night - Templar, you're saying you're finding nothing towny about Tube. Clarify what you think is scumlike. Can you quote some posts, or are you just going off what you had yesterday?

In addition to the scum slip, he continued to be over-the-top aggressive and finding conspiracies, insisting he's 100% right and that mafia would never kill him while finding any reason that he's town.
Specifically these:
On December 14 2014 06:52 Tubesock wrote:
HAHAHA, you can't get out of this.

Look at them squirm folks. ##Vote: Tubesock.

It's 1 mlynch that CONFIRMS 5 mafia and absolutely most likely 6. Lynch/kill them down my list till I'm proven wrong with a town flip. Then reevaluate.

On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 14 2014 07:12 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.

^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.

Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)

##unvote FF
##vote KSC


Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion.

I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there?


Where?

I misread a small part of your case, actually.


So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town?

On December 14 2014 14:26 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 14 2014 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:08 ritoky wrote:
I would like everyone to post who they think I should shoot tonight and why.


Like honestly be careful I think you might hit a big power role like santa. I think none of ff, tube, hf are power roles or would have claimed already. Those are good targets.


I am a good target to keep alive for mafia. I die, it gives MASSIVE credence to my case.

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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 03:07 GMT
#3130
On December 15 2014 12:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 11:59 The_Templar wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:54 Half the Sky wrote:
And as I part for the night - Templar, you're saying you're finding nothing towny about Tube. Clarify what you think is scumlike. Can you quote some posts, or are you just going off what you had yesterday?

In addition to the scum slip, he continued to be over-the-top aggressive and finding conspiracies, insisting he's 100% right and that mafia would never kill him while finding any reason that he's town.
Specifically these:
On December 14 2014 06:52 Tubesock wrote:
HAHAHA, you can't get out of this.

Look at them squirm folks. ##Vote: Tubesock.

It's 1 mlynch that CONFIRMS 5 mafia and absolutely most likely 6. Lynch/kill them down my list till I'm proven wrong with a town flip. Then reevaluate.

On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:12 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.

^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.

Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)

##unvote FF
##vote KSC


Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion.

I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there?


Where?

I misread a small part of your case, actually.


So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town?

On December 14 2014 14:26 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:08 ritoky wrote:
I would like everyone to post who they think I should shoot tonight and why.


Like honestly be careful I think you might hit a big power role like santa. I think none of ff, tube, hf are power roles or would have claimed already. Those are good targets.


I am a good target to keep alive for mafia. I die, it gives MASSIVE credence to my case.


Templar

Pants are on head

So?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 04:18 GMT
#3156
On December 15 2014 13:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 13:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Why aren't you voting HF, LS?

The HF case doesn't look good in my eyes and he felt very townie to me that's all.

So why Tubesock?
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 04:48 GMT
#3169
On December 15 2014 13:48 LightningStrike wrote:
GB Null at best for me his wanting to lynch HF so bad and his case for it is meh at best in my opinion and his endless shouting for his lynching just annoyed me a lot because I town reading HF also notice that GB did all this when HF couldn't defend himself because of the post limit? It could mafia action but I got no good case of GB just yet.

you're allowed to exceed the post limit to defend yourself
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 20:31 GMT
#3347
On December 16 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote:
Btw I kind of doubt Templar and Tube are scum together.

you think?
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The_Templar
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December 15 2014 20:56 GMT
#3354
O_o
##Unvote
##Vote: Ritoky

Explain please
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 22:13 GMT
#3380
On December 16 2014 06:57 froggynoddy wrote:
Templar why would you vote without understanding? I personally have no idea whether Palmar sends notifications so will have look at rit and consider this separately.

I understand it. I wanted the one who slipped to explain himself.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 22:35 GMT
#3393
On December 16 2014 05:50 batsnacks wrote:
All Palmar games (that I've played in) are like that. He doesn't give people information they don't need.

This appears to be correct.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
December 15 2014 22:35 GMT
#3394
Ah, well I guess I didn't need to check.
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The_Templar
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December 15 2014 23:25 GMT
#3427
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is mafia, is giving Tubesock, who is town, a present?
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The_Templar
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December 15 2014 23:29 GMT
#3431
On December 16 2014 08:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:25 The_Templar wrote:
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is town, is giving Tubesock, who is mafia, a present?

Fixed based on the majority thinking of the situation.

I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense...
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The_Templar
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December 15 2014 23:31 GMT
#3434
On December 16 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:25 The_Templar wrote:
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is town, is giving Tubesock, who is mafia, a present?

Fixed based on the majority thinking of the situation.

I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense...

ebwop: *gave town
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The_Templar
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December 16 2014 00:36 GMT
#3501
On December 16 2014 09:35 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:30 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:25 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:11 rsoultin wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Actually wait it makes sense if gb is town which I think is still probably true.

The only way a mafia would mention they have a present is if a town sent it to them and they know they will be under suspicion if they dont use it.

So ok gb town ritoky mafia makes sense lets do this.


I think you are very good at not seeing all the angles. Like, for instance, how someone can just pass a present on. Deliberately obtuse or oblivious?

Anyone else curious about SL's gift for making definitive WIFOM statements at every opportunity? Or that he never, ever, ever expresses a single doubt about GB?

Paranoia, my friend, is a town trait. And you had it in spades last time I played with you.


Absolutely ridiculous assumptions all game about mass murderers/death presents /nk's /alignments yes


So, why is your vote on Ritoky for 1 scum action while Sicklucker has only done scummy or bad towny things for DAYS?

Why are we allowing that? How about we either wagon HF or Sick, if they turn town then wagon Ritoky or me tomorrow?


This is where the crux of your argument falls apart.


Not really. I've made it pretty clear that Sick is playing his role perfectly. For some reason most all of you think it's just him playing bad. He's not playing bad. I'm saying lynch him as even if he is town he isn't helping town. Lynch him. But only after you HF.


His reasoning is so terrible that i find it hard to believe that someone so intelligent and playing so "perfectly" would ever make them. It's likely he's just bad at thinking and town or bad at thinking and mafia. None of what you have said picks them apart. Only soul has just brought up something valid about sl's past game now.


So, you're saying he is too scummy to be scum?

Did you actually read the post you quoted?
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December 16 2014 00:54 GMT
#3511
On December 16 2014 09:51 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:36 The_Templar wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:35 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:30 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:25 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:11 rsoultin wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Actually wait it makes sense if gb is town which I think is still probably true.

The only way a mafia would mention they have a present is if a town sent it to them and they know they will be under suspicion if they dont use it.

So ok gb town ritoky mafia makes sense lets do this.


I think you are very good at not seeing all the angles. Like, for instance, how someone can just pass a present on. Deliberately obtuse or oblivious?

Anyone else curious about SL's gift for making definitive WIFOM statements at every opportunity? Or that he never, ever, ever expresses a single doubt about GB?

Paranoia, my friend, is a town trait. And you had it in spades last time I played with you.


Absolutely ridiculous assumptions all game about mass murderers/death presents /nk's /alignments yes


So, why is your vote on Ritoky for 1 scum action while Sicklucker has only done scummy or bad towny things for DAYS?

Why are we allowing that? How about we either wagon HF or Sick, if they turn town then wagon Ritoky or me tomorrow?


This is where the crux of your argument falls apart.


Not really. I've made it pretty clear that Sick is playing his role perfectly. For some reason most all of you think it's just him playing bad. He's not playing bad. I'm saying lynch him as even if he is town he isn't helping town. Lynch him. But only after you HF.


His reasoning is so terrible that i find it hard to believe that someone so intelligent and playing so "perfectly" would ever make them. It's likely he's just bad at thinking and town or bad at thinking and mafia. None of what you have said picks them apart. Only soul has just brought up something valid about sl's past game now.


So, you're saying he is too scummy to be scum?

Did you actually read the post you quoted?


Yes. If you're going to nitpick, then I guess I should have asked Holyflare "So, you're saying he is playing too badly to be mafia?"

He said in that post that it's likely that he's either bad at thinking and town or bad at thinking and mafia, meaning it's likely he could be either town or mafia. So no, he didn't say that.
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