EPTTL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 6
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I'm not sure how mechanical balance works, but if we had two vigilantes, wouldn't there have been more deaths in both D1 and D2? | ||
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Yea, Rasputin, and everyone else, at this point, we need to really move forward, we all need to start merging reads. Trfel definitely has some good material to work with. Just looking through the recent pages (I will have to do more filters tomorrow midday) I see Templar's voted Tubesock again. Slam, I disagree with killing FF. Trfel's read on him effectively confirms him as town, plus KSC rode him hard, even before that, so... | ||
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On December 15 2014 22:14 GlowingBear wrote: Where did froggy agreed with my case? I think this is what he means. (bolded for emphasis) [QUOTE]On December 14 2014 00:52 froggynoddy wrote: [QUOTE]On December 14 2014 00:43 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, now that I'm sober (although extremely hangover), and before I continue with the case on Holyflare, I want to say a word about presents. Although talking about the power presents give is useless, there is an important thing about its mechanics that we should consider: Mafia is unlikely to give presents to town + Show Spoiler [Why?] + They have 66% chance of giving a important power to town. That said, if a mafia holds a present, he is most likely to give it to a partner and not opening it until they can see if the present town holds is the death one. Town, in the other hand, will give it to anyone day1 and the townie will most likely open it because they have a very good chance of opening a power present. This means: If damdred opened a present and flipped town, sicklucker is most likely town. If ritoky claims he's got a present and that he is opening it, he's most likely town, because mafia would hold it and give to another partner to see if that was the death present or not. There is no motive for mafia to say they will open it, since that, if they open the death present, they will flip mafia anyway, so ritoky's explanation actually looks fair. That's it guys. Btw, no mass claiming. It was a bad idea of mine. I've just realised mafia will have problems with so many possible powers against them.[/QUOTE] This is obvious. I think my head matches yours...[/QUOTE] | ||
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On December 15 2014 22:14 GlowingBear wrote: Where did froggy agreed with my case? I think this is what he means. (bolded for emphasis) On December 14 2014 00:52 froggynoddy wrote: This is obvious. I think my head matches yours... | ||
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On December 15 2014 22:34 Holyflare wrote: Ritoky has a great fucking chance at beinf mafia now that he claimed rb while obi most likely did too but you ignore it. I'm not scumreading you for this HF, but the Vet/JK save possibility has been brought up before by a few of us late last night, with a legit possibility that Rit was RBed. A few of us (myself included) are inclined to feel that this is the more likely scenario. What is your take on that? | ||
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I am also having quite a few doubts on Templar, he seems quite determined to stick with Tubesock. Asked him last night about Tubesock, and his explanation seems inadequate to me at best. If I recall correctly, the scumslip part has been beaten to death, so I don't understand the continued tunnel. Also regarding Oats, I had done some meta work on Oats, and looking at prior TL games, this is by far the least he's been involved. Oats was way more involved even last Student Mafia game (he was VT), and the two TL normal games I looked at where he was scum (LS provided me the links) he was even more involved in that game than he was as town. Second game, not so much, but by far, this game is clearly the lurkiest he's ever been. On meta alone, it would appear inconclusive. Rasputin is correct that EoD is inconvenient for him, but from what I was reading, generally he would pop in soon AFTER EoD. I recall him popping in a bit like that in Student Mafia, but its not been the case here. On meta alone, I'm smelling a coaster. Content-wise, he voted for Trfel for his lack of involvement (ironic, given his own prior involvement) and then "pressure voted" Vivax. This is what I really do not like on him. So as far as I'm concerned it's not good for him either. | ||
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On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote: Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town. You are misinterpreting KP. Default is 2KP - 2 scum faction kills. MM/Marley/BM/etc is additional KP. | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:02 Xatalos wrote: Hm. HTS / LS, what do you think of GB? TLDR: GB is on my scum list, so is Oats, not feeling good about Bats and Templar either. (Explanations to come shortly.) | ||
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Oats, for reasons largely already explained. I will admit part of my reasoning is somewhat based on meta, but content-wise, I didn't like his voting when there were so many other cases to explore. It seems like priority 1 for him are the lurkers when there are other issues being pushed and that's been consistent all game. It's possible there might be a lurking scum somewhere, but I feel that's all he's gone after for the most part, save for Vivax. Froggy was his target two days in a row at one point. Bats is another read, but I sense a pattern. Trfel cited some of the things he did D1. He was asked for a case on HF D2, when he voted HF and he didn't appear to have a defence. If you look through page 4 of his filter, it appears he's throwing votes everywhere and looking for something that sticks. Random vote on myself for requesting a meta lookup on Oats. | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:02 LightningStrike wrote: The formula wrecked me hard T_T Also Xatlos and HTS since you guys are here what roles you think Mafia got and why? I'd say RB (patronising prick) for sure given the N2 results, likely a Marley (with Kush's death), the BM is known as he's flipped. MM is 50/50 given D1, we don't know exactly how Damdred died. And surely a 5th, but not sure. | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:19 Xatalos wrote: Yeah I agree that he doesn't seem to pay much attention and the slips are disturbing. What's holding me back is his crazy posting streak before deadline... It'd be hard for a beginner scum to post like that. The slip was there, but my general nutshell impression from his posts is that he's trying too hard. | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:44 Fecalfeast wrote: I was never sold on tubesack being town but there was one post that made me wonder Who gives an ultimatum between himself and his scum buddy? I believe that was around the time he told Rasputin he didn't deserve to live, or if he died it would give his case massive credence. I remember that and that sounded like he was misguided. I am pretty sure I can find the quote because I remember very well Rasputin telling him off for that. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:08 rsoultin wrote: You don't understand this game then, Tube. The point is to kill off all the scum. They're gonna get at least two town tonight if not more, and that's assuming that our vig if we have one doesn't get another. I don't want to lose town if I can help it, even if I don't agree with what they're saying. The point is to win, not punish ppl for thinking differently than you do. | ||
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Just checked the rules, nothing in the OP about RB notifications. BH's student mafia rules do say you are notified of getting RBed, but this isn't a BH game. | ||
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On December 16 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote: Roleblocks are not notified Checkmate...and the vote. | ||
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On December 17 2014 02:24 LightningStrike wrote: Sicklucker why you voting for Oats? Just curious because Ritoky needs to get lynched today. Lightning, I think this is your answer. On December 16 2014 15:04 sicklucker wrote: ill vote oats convince others im out of posts hes obv mafia. Ritoky has no extra kp oats might. | ||
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