EPTOn December 10 2014 07:57 liancourt wrote:
oh is that what it looks like?
low hanging fruit meta?
oh is that what it looks like?
low hanging fruit meta?
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TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 49
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Fecalfeast
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 10 2014 07:30 Damdred wrote: You called groggy out on his post haven't even responded to the other things he's said that evaporated into the air. Light scrum read on 27nb I believe (could be wrong) you haven't really mentioned her return or subsequent lurking since. We both know how vivax plays scrum he deserves pressure for being so ask... You just seem to gravitate towards the easy targets and not sticking your hand into any other issues that are up which is weird for you since generally you are involved in everything as town. froggy = groggy? how is he one of these "high priority targets" i am supposed to be pursuing, guy has like 4 posts. he contradicted himself early on a point that makes 0 sense, so i applied pressure. all he has done is vehemently defend that he was in the right in a place where he is clearly in the wrong; i have scum read people i haven't played with in the past for crap like this before and it didn't pan out. withholding full judgment until he actually posts something; currently in the donkey leaning mafia pile. i think a major point about ppl's case on 27nb is from a place of lacking understanding about my and 27nb's relationship. you need to understand that we basically started playing on these forums together at pretty much the same time, we have played nearly every game together, and we literally have the worst most dumpster tier reads on eachother. furthermore, from past games how i got my read on her was fake claiming cop with a red check on her and messing with her entire game; and how she would get hers on me is by calling me scum early and putting vote pressure on me. so the whole "she voted ritoky without explanation" line of thought is crap. it is a way she tries to get a read on me, and it is also kinda a thing between friends imo (especially given the time in the day it was made). as for if she is scum? idk i have a crap tier read on her, but the fact that there's 0 legitimate push for a counterwagon and a nearly 0 number of people defending her would lead me to believe she is leaning town. as for your comments on vivax, i think i have played less than 3 games with the guy and none of them are particularly memorable, so no...i don't have a firm memory of how he plays as scum. and re: your last bit, i am a tunneler on day 1 you should know that by now | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
I'm going to answer questions that Ive been asked since page 44. I'm only on page 25 in reading wise, but shouldn't take me more than thirty mins to an hour to catch up  On December 10 2014 02:38 Half the Sky wrote: 27NB - Can you explain why you voted Ritoky straightaway and then did not scumlist him at all in your list? That was the one thing that jumped out at me. Do you have any thoughts on Ritoky now? Ritoky was a joke vote for saying Nicki Minaj was awesome. As of now, I currently don't have a read on Ritoky because I am behind on pages. However, I've read ritoky wrong in all games we have played together, so when I do give a read, don't immediately take it to heart. On December 10 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote: 1) You are getting lynched and you don't have time to defend yourself. hahaha hilarious. Not. 2) You are doing some rereading. You left on page 19 and claim to be on page 21 atm. Rereading? How? What? Things town don't do when they see they have 9 votes on themselves: reread 10 pages they already read and 2 fresh ones. Things town do when they see when they have 9 votes on themselves: Read why they have 9 votes on themselves and try to get caught up. 3) Froggy has 1 post. So while you say that this 1 post is not alignment indicative, you still find him iffy from this not alignment indicative post. That is bullshit. "Froggy, the guy who made 1 post that was not alignment indicative at all is scummy." The italic part is such bullshit. I hope you are scum grasping at straws and not town being oblivious. You defend yourself claiming that you really had a scumread on somebody while reading his 1 post as non-alignment indicative. AT THE SAME TIME. ##unvote ##vote: 27ninjabunnies The only way I am moving my vote is if you read the thread and solve the game. Which wont happen given your recent posting. 1. I do think it is funny. I have plenty of time to defend myself. And I will. 2. Rereading, as in I'm reading the pages that I have missed. Sorry. I'm not a grammar nazi. 3. Yes, froggy has one post.. It isn't alignment indicative to me. I find him iffy because he only had 1 post. I havent read anything he may or may not have done since then. I'm sure my reads will change by the time I catch up. I never called him scum. I called him iffy. Iffy for me is I don't have a read either way. People to look at on my list is more scum than iffy on my list. #Koshi is actually stupid this game, and should learn how to read me. The only way I'll retract that statement is if you learn to read what I mean, and actually find mafia instead of lynching a town. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I read HTS null/town. I agreed with her reasoning concerning 27NB and Froggy. I don't see her spearheading/pushing people (her posts are 95% answering others) but she is information gathering and analyzing. She (while pushed) tried to examine Kush's Scrooge claim, and I think she basically meant she doesn't know but it's overall scummy and his behavior also is scummy. Which I agree with, My read on Kush is confused but he's more harmful to town/Nice than good. He's my 2nd maybe 3rd lynchvote (Lian is the other). Can you update your read on either Bats or Fecal? | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Yea auto correct got me. However there wasn't much of a push by you. I am struggling with you rit, I don't think you should probably be lynched your at least trying and giving answers. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
No Lynch Xatalos Koshi HF Damdred FF SL oats Maybe lynch kitaman27 rsoultin kushm4sta slam OWS The_Templar liancourt ritoky GlowingBear LoneMeow Tubesock LS Lynch 27nb HTS kelsier vivax froggynoddy trfel | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
am i playing that meta right now though? | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:27 liancourt wrote: am i playing that meta right now though? How am I supposed to know? Sicklucker go suck an egg. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:14 Damdred wrote: I will give you, your last point I do realize and know it's true. Yea auto correct got me. However there wasn't much of a push by you. I am struggling with you rit, I don't think you should probably be lynched your at least trying and giving answers. Well no1 else seems to see what I see in ff, like you're not even responding to his reads post, which is all kindsa messed up and worthless. On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote: rasputin, null/scum: His filter has a lot of questioning other people's logic and poking at people who aren't fighting back. His push on OWS and saying the thread should back off HTS/27NB+ Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=35#691 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=35#699 + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote: LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out. froggy, null: less than a page including pregame, his second post in-game is 20 hours after his first and is still talking about policy lynches and explaining his first post. Then makes an excuse to AFK again even though multiple people are on him. Not a lot to go on unless 27NB flips since she was defending him. Obi, scum/null: Lurker obi is still scary to me and most of his filter so far can be summed up as OMGUS with a hint of random 'pressure' batsnacks, ???: He makes a vote on templar for not sticking to his RNG and calls him out for saying it's silly when he started it. He says HTS made a contradiction too, but when he gets asked why he ninjavoted bunnies he says + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 10:03 batsnacks wrote: Damdred I went back and looked and it looks like HTS and vivax have similar stances. For reasons I'm having trouble explaining, I thought HTS was scummy and I thought vivax was null. Maybe it's how they explained it. Vivax was more explicit. There's like 4 people I want to vote right now though. And I originally voted NB for the useless bra discussion. So he's not a fan of useless discussion? What about all the useless shit lian posted? I'm not sure where batsnacks' head is at he makes multiple posts on why HTS is contradictory but when HF tells him no all he says is 'true that' and votes 27NB again. Then asking for a list post? probably null/scum as well but I don't know. ritoky, mad: His first page is a lot of one-liners and retorts but the second I show I haven't been reading his posts he jumps on me like I insulted his mother. Not sure if that's alignment indicative but it sure is funny. LoneMeow, town: His only page of filter has more content than most of the people I have checked so far, he explains his reads and asks decent questions. ezpz townread for me Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum. Let's really look into this: he gave us his updated reads and all of them are null except 1, which is town. now break them down individually: rsoultin - i don't even know where he draws this line of thought from. the actual content of the read isn't awful until you get to the end where he makes this giant unflipped association with no real substance behind it...like i don't even know? either pushing scum or tmi or something. there's just something funky smelling. also that bit at the end seems to indicate that he now thinks LS is town or knows LS is town, when his last post about LS was that he thought LS was mafia. froggy - why is this read even here, it does nothing obi - read is okay enough, would prefer example but i got no probs with it batsnacks - again why is this read even here. you find it strange, well that's cool; tell me what strange means to you. i find strange on day 1 to mean mafia. seems like he really doesn't want to commit. ritoky - trying to stir the pot lonemeow - this is the most bizarre read to me even though it is the most committed. like why do you have this read on LM yet not the EXACT SAME READ on koshi or vivax or people like that? they are also high content, low post count people. they are asking questions and giving reads, why are you not applying your standards to them as well? tube - epitome of his stances thus far: "i am not sure how i feel" he seems to be trying to ride the middle way too hard and is non-committal as all hell, his LS read is off in the middle of nowhere all the sudden even though it is apparently integral to his rasputin read. i just can't see this guy acting from a town perspective, and not a single person has told me why he is yet, even though i have been asking non-stop. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
TS asked me about reads on KelsierSc and Vivax. Let's start out with Kelsier I had a "Look at kelsier" reminder in my list because somethings seemed off to me. Looking through the filter, most of the beginning posts were joke posts. On December 09 2014 08:35 KelsierSC wrote: 27nb gets a comfortable but elegant pair of slippers hf gets a piece of wet cardboard with elastic straps On December 09 2014 08:50 KelsierSC wrote: where is the contradiction? she seems to be saying other people might find it scummy \flag him but she doesn't think it is? Kelsier goes from that to this On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote: I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me. Kelsier wasn't specifically defending me, but was saying that he understood exactly what I was saying about Froggy, yet then completely goes to agree with HF moments later when I get pressured. what is that?! Everything else Kelsier has said makes no sense to me. It seems like he is just throwing out random one liners and baseless reads to be read as town. the only remotely thing that makes some kind of sense is the read on bats when he supposedly pinged out HTS for something said, and the read on Oats, both of which I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at. As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier. Vivax- after reading through his filter seems really town to me. Actually probably one of my top towns at the moment. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=40#791 This post explain why. I think I've explained why I put Froggy as iffy, vivax, at that time. What do you think? Also, In that post you mention you don't like Koshi, or more so he's freaking you out. Can you go a little bit more into Koshi, and what kind of read you've made on him since that post? | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote: How am I supposed to know? Sicklucker go suck an egg. because u are playing the game do i look like i'm playing the low hanging fruit meta? a simple yes or no would suffice | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:25 batsnacks wrote: I caught up. Time for a blind list post without reviewing anything: Lynch vivax Why? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On December 10 2014 05:13 Damdred wrote: What are you on about GB I didn't even bring up arnold. I already explained that the game i refernced was titanic mafia the one hour game. Also your showing of a game that is against what i'm saying is not correct in the fact that the game had 0 lurkers after I subbed into the game, and bfeore i subbed in you had a light scum read on Elvis and then it went away once I started posting. So yea i'm not lying at all, and you still aren't doing anything except trying to paint things as scummy that aren't so. You can start telling what things I'm painting as scum and why they aren't scummy. I'm saying that the only game I went after high profile players was on Arnies Got a Gun, in which I pushed Rayn early on. I also did it as town, so it's not alignment indicative for me. That's why I'm bringing Arnie up. What's similar from my gameplay here to fanfic? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote: @ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people. oh i guess kita did, missed that; doesn't change that i think the reads are crap lol. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
The only thing I remember about him is that his posts are all about the same length with about the same formatting. I don't actually remember what any of his posts said. Someone actually had to point out to me earlier that vivax and HTS had similar thoughts on froggy. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Who's here to talk? | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote: because u are playing the game do i look like i'm playing the low hanging fruit meta? a simple yes or no would suffice Yes until you ninja'd me saying your spoiler posts are fluff. No, I do not think you are playing your LHF meta but I did. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On December 10 2014 08:36 GlowingBear wrote: Hey I'm here to interact. Gonna read the game later today. Who's here to talk? Hi gb you said I was scummy but I didn't care. Should I? | ||
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