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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 04:27 GMT
#613
God I'm really struggling to not spam the shit out of this game with mulitple posts. Especially on my phone where it's not really conducive to make longer elaborate posts.

Someone do my work for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#654
That vivax post was at a perfectly normal time on someone that was the thread focus/part of a thread focus. It also happens at the same time as the bunnies posts so I have no idea how you don't know what's happening with bunnies

Also like the (ritoky?) post about ls having quite a lot of unsubstantiated town reads, and not questioning people based on them bla bla post but more so coupled with what kelsier said

Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time

On December 09 2014 15:43 Damdred wrote:
Said its a weak scum read in the post.

votes an hour later? No reap thoughts?


I told him to read my filter and sheep me. Can only assume that's what he did.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 11:57 GMT
#658
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 12:06 GMT
#661
The gb/me thint became irrelevant because slam askef gb for a reason to scum read him and fite him and gb just said you are scum fite me.

Kind of agree with the rest though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 12:14 GMT
#667
There's quite a lot of europeans and a lot of americans went to bed so of course a case on mafia bunnies at usa bed time and europe waking up time wouldn't receive much counter pressure. I also still don't see how she shows suspicion of damdred at all? The post you quoted isn't her responding to Damdred? It doesn't show any suspicion of him at all it's a reply to him asking her to explain more reads iirc.

Not saying she can't be mafia but she's voting a good target for good reasons and her posting isn't as horrible as you make it out to be for like 2 hours of gameplay.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 12:20 GMT
#670
On December 09 2014 21:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.

Vivax defended bunnies then called her scum without referring to his defence of her at all.

You spend like 5 posts talking about how she called someone town but that he did scummy shit. You realise that its not mutually exclusive?

You can do scummy shit and still be town.

Im totes not defending bunnies but there are better people to lynch today.
^^

And seriously so many posts asking people what they think of bunnies.
Its clearly working but its making feel like you dont know what you are doing.


Are you ignoring the fact that she scum read him too so everything she actually said made absolutely no sense?

Vivax changed his read after she made her list with him as her scum read so I see no problem with it. It's not inconsistent in the slightest.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 12:53 GMT
#688
3 people have already claimed joyful but is there only 3?

Damd
Sl
Templar

Shouldn't be claiming these anyway because of game mechanics.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 13:03 GMT
#698
I also think bats is relatively not scummy at the present moment because he dropped everything after he was proven wrong and just sheeped me instead which is in fact townyish.

Would lynch: bunnies, kush, (oats?), (ls?), obi.

Still deciding on brackets. Subject to change on a few too. Full list later though, will be home at night and can write longer posts. Keep wasting posts on random crap and I'm almost at 4 pages -.-

Bunnies : what I've been saying
Kush: useless vote, useless scrooge post, afking and not caring about the game
Oats: talked about vivax but was completely wrong about it/bunnies
Ls: lots of town reads little justification, rito/kelsier points
Obi: bleh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 15:11 GMT
#789
2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-

Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.

Ls looks not bad to me, dunno why people are hating on him giving all the meta when loads of other people do the same. Ritoky seems angry for some reason because of this??

Obi still being useless, just because he was useless last game (russian) as town doesn't stop him being able to be useless this game as mafia. It just means he's useless which increases the odds of him being mafia.

Kush.. Meh will resolve itself i think

Gb hasn't really done anything but hasn't done anything outrageously wrong like I'd expect him to as town but his picking on solely koshi and like nothing else is wearing thin and is pretty scummy

I dunno feel kinda iffy about hts after reading the things about kush feels a bit too flippant

New list oats, obi, (gb?) bunnies
Mehhhhbe/mehhhhbe not: hts, kush

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#797
Boo fucking hoo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 18:08 GMT
#890
On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum


He attacked marv last game

On December 10 2014 02:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually on another read through even though i'm slightly suspicious of Xata i'd probably never lynch him today Ritoky is a strange struggle read for me right now i'm not sure if hes town this time


Please look into why he was angry at someone using meta reads because it looked pretty strange to me and I don't want to spend my remaining like 20 or less posts on it with 24 hours+ left

Bunnies re entry not that great cz she says she town read people for other posts and not the attack on froggy but that just means her original statement of people jumping on froggy is invalid because it's most of her town reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 00:21 GMT
#1050
I don't actually see any of the contradiction you've pointed out bunnies he's saying what he thought you said, I explained what you actually said and he agreed.

Also in a bid to save me actually getting killed by going over my quota I'm just going to wait till tomorrow to update with a giant wall of 24 names and my fixed vote. I have a few posts to spare if people want to bounce things towards me so I can post them in a longer post (back at home/pc tonight) but for now here are a few scummy names/reasoning

ATM don't like ritoky's aggression at all and I'm glad damd fleshed it out for me, he's pushing on points that don't make anyone mafia in any game. Someone using meta exclusively, since when do mafia do that? Especially when they are new. Also when the pressure on someone seems to fall off in the thread he jumps right to the next person with full force. Doesn't seem like the insightful ritoky I fooled.

Kush has completely gone away, hasn't read anything and claimed a role that would be great to trade 1 for 1 for mafia which he would love to do instead of being completely useless in an alignment he hates

bunnies still meh but claimed mason (apparently didn't) I guess so not sure what to think of that, don't like the kelsier "contradiction" she pointed out but is at least trying to do something positive right now towards finding out who is scum tentatively meeeeeeh

oats made this post which kinda looks fucking weird

On December 10 2014 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-

Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.



Vivax called bunnies scum for a superficial reason.
That reason was that bunnies switched to fit in.

However, there is no indication that bunnies intentionally did that. In fact, she doesnt even explain her vote which is townie imo.

Vivax defended bunnies earlier but now is calling her scum.
Its the exact thing he said.

And it looks a ton like he is bandwagoning.

Scummmyyyyy.


he calls bunnies unexplained vote or something towny (too scummy to be scum earlier) and how vivax defended her but called her scum and then he somehow thinks it looks a load like bandwagoning but still isn't scum reading bunnies (maybe tmi???)

trfel who the fuck is this guy and why do palmar games not contain inactivity modkills so bm


Obi is just a pile of garbage and would lynch automatically for being so after last game and has a reasonable chance to be mafia too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 01:14 GMT
#1097
It's not particularly hard to understand? He says that tube doing meta reads as a new player makes him look towny but when LS does it he outright scum reads LS. It's double standards! Not sure if scummy though, doesn't feel like it he's saying they are doing the same things.

Read my thing about oats plox ty
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 17:51 GMT
#1275
I don't get this xatalos case cz

a) kelsier made it look like a trap (I had the same opinion that he looked towny doing it)
b) you just quoted a bunch of reasons why he thought bunnies MIGHT be town and another quote where he dispels his biggest reason, I also berated him for thinking along the lines of "too many ppl scum read her" and you didn't take that into account

also you've somehow changed the reason for him being mafia from not acknowledging bunnies new posts in his read to now turning it back to how he "town read" her at the start of the game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 18:19 GMT
#1278
why the fuck did everyone dismiss my oats point btw? "I dunno how to read oats he just bad" is not a good reason at all and none of the vets even bothered to look at it and instead started pushing other nonsense.

go read it here: click me!

also now that bunnies actually said her claim wasn't a claim that's just really fucking disingenuous and scummy, her kelsier points weren't very good at all and i don't like that people took her "iffy" and "people to look at" claims as backwards because iffy means you have suspicion and to look at means null but somehow you all believe it's the other way around

there's also what kita said which was very good, she's only stuck at her "people" to look at really as scum reads the entirety of the cycle and hasn't paticularly changed, even on me lol -.- BASED ON MY FIRST POST???? Not to mention her hard on for kelsier that hasn't disappeared ever an on a "reread" of the thread had absolutely no new information whatsoever and still was going on about her list post and her reads only from that list post

I dislike HF at the moment more than froggy for his entrance post. Tbh, I understand there is a cap to posts (which I am probably rapidly approacing), but you shouldn't come into the game with the mindset that you aren't going to post much because of the cap. However, I did post a post just recently saying why I like HF now, for his view on Kelsier.


literally says that i'm disliked MORE than someone with 4 posts based on my entrance post but also liked now too? kind of a waste and pretty disingenuous to still be reading me based on my first post in an entirety of filter, not to mention there's a shit town of wasted filler posts in between each of her posts like "oh does anyone else read sickluckers name differently"

people should be still on her



anyway i realised i actually have quite a few posts for up to deadline so that's cool and i'm super ill so will probably rest after it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 19:37 GMT
#1300
On December 11 2014 04:11 KelsierSC wrote:
So when nb said "i could just claim" i was pretty fucking mad about that but reading it now. Either she is a role or scum right, saying that as vt is just really anti town Imo.
for that reason i don't think she should be the lynch d1 and we should focus other targets now and see exactly what play nb makes d2. Interested to hear more thoughts on my ff read.


you shouldn't think like this at all because that's exactly what a mafia would want to do so you're telling us that we shouldn't lynch her or put pressure on her on the off chance that she COULD be town??? you're essentially giving someone that has a super high chance of being mafia a free pass because of a possibility she could be town, which doesn't make sense at all, especially when you posted this:

On December 11 2014 04:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 11 2014 04:11 KelsierSC wrote:
So when nb said "i could just claim" i was pretty fucking mad about that but reading it now. Either she is a role or scum right, saying that as vt is just really anti town Imo.
for that reason i don't think she should be the lynch d1 and we should focus other targets now and see exactly what play nb makes d2. Interested to hear more thoughts on my ff read.

I am leaning too heavy on scum. Tell me why she might be town. Using her filter.


I can't but she did basically claim a role and I think we get more information if we look elsewhere today and see what nb does d2

you have no reason to town read her... claiming a role is something scum loves to do to survive as that's their main goal, she's been bandwagoned the entire day by multiple people all day and arguably has the MOST information on her flip but you're telling us not to lynch her because she doesn't give us any info on a flip and she has claimed a role???


On December 11 2014 04:29 liancourt wrote:
Nope ninja posted a vid of carol singers

oh yes this is role claiming


oh please as if that wasn't an attempt at some super obvious breadcrumb at being a carol singer

"oh yeh guys just randomly while im under pressure im gonna drop this video of me carol singing in college"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#1305
probably pretty bad that I haven't actually read ff yet then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 20:09 GMT
#1315
On December 11 2014 04:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 04:37 Holyflare wrote:
you have no reason to town read her... claiming a role is something scum loves to do to survive as that's their main goal, she's been bandwagoned the entire day by multiple people all day and arguably has the MOST information on her flip but you're telling us not to lynch her because she doesn't give us any info on a flip and she has claimed a role???


Are we at the point where we are ready to issue her an ultimatum to claim or do we give it 1-2 more hours. I certainly don't want her showing up 5 minutes before the lynch and claiming that she is Arnold or something.

I'm not saying that we listen to her claim and it suddenly makes her town, but if she is going to go around saying that she might "claim to save herself" then I don't see the point of keeping quiet with so many votes on her with a few hours left. I'd rather digest what she has to say now.


that point is now, isn't the deadline soon?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 20:15 GMT
#1317
On December 11 2014 05:13 Koshi wrote:
There are major signs that this is a town lynch. But what can we do?


well that's the worst thing i've heard in a long while wtf????

lynch mafia??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2014 21:01 GMT
#1329
lol that's the easiest claim in the world for a mafia to make ~_~
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