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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 12:01 GMT
#5241
On December 23 2014 16:48 Alakaslam wrote:
Lololo

GB U know the SVENGALI

Often I am led astray

Come my good Brazilian friend and tell me this: have you seen much anime?


¿HOLA QUE TAL?

Only the basics. I prefer to read manga, but only a few.
Animes... Death Note, Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Baccano...
Mangas: Rurouni Kenshin, Blade of the Immortal (I love this), Naruto, Slam Dunk.... Can't remember what more
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 12:05 GMT
#5242
On December 23 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 14:54 GlowingBear wrote:
For some reason, marv is never proud of me.

My hert are sad

I was all ready to nominate HF lynch day 2 for best lynch 2014, and like Palmar said we were cheerleading your crazy push so hard. Alas, so close


[image loading]

❤

So close yet so far...
Thanks sensei!
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 13:32 GMT
#5243
On December 23 2014 10:29 Palmar wrote:
There was a ton of very good townplay this game. marv and I were such fangirls when GB was trying to get HF lynched on day 2. That was the best thing ever. A lot of townies deserve credit for doing their job this game. Like at times the biggest problems town had was which mafia to lynch.


Hahaha just now I've read this. I was too drunk to see this. Makes me happy

Anyway, I've being reading post game comments and I agree on Trfel. His gameplay is impressive. Flawless. HTS night actions were superb. I don't know why I couldn't read Vivax as town quickly, though.

Most of times, I struggle with looking townie, but way much more, I struggle to be heard. I don't know what I'm doing wrong in this matter, though.

I still want to coach LS
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 13:33 GMT
#5244
The spoiled posts from lian, though, were too bad. It made me ignore him most of times
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2014 13:41 GMT
#5245
Ya the spoiled posts really made me want to ignore him although I did mention in the game it's his meta. Also I still want you to coach me GlowingBear!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 13:58 GMT
#5246
Dude, lian, do not sell yourself short, man. Your reads were excellent. Several things came together that last day, and if any one of them didn't happen for town there would not have been a win.

1. FF lol, dude, claiming that present and choosing to shoot who you did...and saying yeah guys, take a look at me, get it out of your system which was just townie enough to make me not interested enough to filter dive you.

2. HTS and that amazing last save. Great call lady. I was hoping Nigella would out if she protected Xat cause Xat would have been bagged for sure.

3. LIAN, lol. YOUR FIT. I looked through your entire filter looking for why the hell you were so kill HF, kill HF, and found the basework for my scumread on him. Your screaming did not go in vain.

4. HF, dude, sorry to say it man, but you being AFK all of Day 5 killed any chance of my not calling you out and voting for you. Blame Oats all you want, but you made some mistakes, too. You really did not have much influence on this thread, just a really stubborn town pocketed

5. The stubborn donkey finally called HF out, and early enough to get a good train rolling.

6. GB/SL all the other townies rolling up on that, but especially GB, strong push, great way to stick to your guns.

7. HTS' claim. Good god, woman, your timing could not have been more perfect.

8. GB for keeping that wagon anchored on HF, and convincing townies to stay/return there after HTS claimed.

Honestly, if any of those things hadn't happened that day probably would not have turned out the same. <3 HTS/lian for MVP but a lot of great work from the rest of the town, too. You guys rock. I should be muzzled half the game lol and will try to learn not to go out full force without looking back in the future xP

(GB, SL, lian, love you guys, lol.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 23 2014 14:18 GMT
#5247
Being afk isn't alignment indicative bro. I was just afk because Christmas and that was literally the only time I could post. If I could spam the hell out of a thread I'd be doing it at all times of the day, regardless we knew hts was medic and she blocked xata/oats but there was literally nothing we could do because of the presents needed to be rb'd.

I don't know why people are praising people for being right when literally the main part of this game is being right and convincing. The fact is 3 townies were yelling for my lynch over and over again for 4 cycles and while right never managed to get me lynched at all. People were literally begging to be convinced that I was mafia and these people weren't doing anything but continuing to yell that i was mafia instead of playing and convincing the other townies. They literally went insane and did nothing else productive and so lost all credibility. At the end of the day the reason I got lynched is because we were stuck in a dead end between being rb'd or not dying so we were forced to pick the latter and nobody on the mafia team even tried to put up a fight so we had to battle a medic claim from someone who was obviously the medic.

I don't think these people should be encouraged to play the same way again with pats on their back like has been happening this post game.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 14:24 GMT
#5248
Hey, not gonna argue with you.

Some townies did some good shit in the end despite me, and maybe we were helped along by poor scum decisions, and maybe you played perfect, but those town did some good shit and scum got got.

^Totes terrible grammar.

Getting the right reads is important, too
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 15:01:24
December 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#5249
Yes, some people did well. Not really disputing that. They are the ones that died for a reason.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 15:07 GMT
#5250
seriously, though, another look at your pushes and for a good town player they were really lackluster
I know you're a vet and pretty damn good and all, and I totally missed the most obvious things
but those cases were yuuuuck and directed at super easy scapegoats

you spent way more time railing about how stupid players were for scumreading you, even after scum lynches

just as constructive criticism, take it or leave it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 15:21:43
December 23 2014 15:21 GMT
#5251
I got #yolo shot...

How many of these disgruntled workers were there? That branch manager was just another vigi like this. Scum had 2 vigis. Interesting. I thought the workers had to claim before they would be able to be shot. Not... Strange stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 15:24 GMT
#5252
eh...it was never clear in the op cause one part said "claimed disgruntled workers"

and I think later the mod came back and said they could shoot whoever they wanted but the bullet would only work on the disgruntled...

we backed and forth on that a lot lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2014 15:30 GMT
#5253
Strange Wording on the role is Op Palmar
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 15:39 GMT
#5254
HF, my case on you was spot on, I just got lazy to attack your defense.
I kept pushing and pushing you, pointed a lot of slips, even managed to realise you were the roleblocker.

As persuasion involves two person, sometimes the problem isn't in the guy who is trying to persuade.

If my read was that bad I wouldn't get you logic'd about the presents and realising you were the roleblocker
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 16:18 GMT
#5255
lol, GB, your initial case was bad, probably because your initial read was based on a gut read and you were trying to articulate it in a way to present as evidence. Read good, case bad, execution worse.

Between that and the screaming I turned off to everything else you said for too long. My bias, most definitely, and I need to learn that a bad case (Vivax had a couple) =/= scum or wrong. But you did kind of dig yourself a hole there, at least with me. SL has that effect on me, too. All the present talk made me inclined to ignore the good point you guys brought up about the present and HF later. I'm a bullheaded dingbat, but thinking things out before you present them will help you guys, I'm pretty sure.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 23 2014 16:39 GMT
#5256
This was by far my best game. I just didnt convince town but town was stupid. Yes all my success is due to myself and failures are because of external factors. Learned optimism ppl.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 16:57 GMT
#5257
On December 23 2014 16:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Well, interesting stuff in the QT. Scum QT....wow. Just impressed with content.
Obs QT....I was near or at the top of every scum list. Oh dear. That's not good.

If anyone has any tips on improvement or anything specific they saw, feel free to post/PM.
I know I struggled with some of the reads, not sure if that's common for new folks here and my part in the D4 Tube lynch was horrible. (Tube I am so sorry!)

Great work overall town. We had some ups and downs but we pulled through.

Trfel you were awesome, Rasputin and GB you were even more awesome.
Scum team gave us a run. ggwp

Thank you Marv and Palmar again for everything. See you all in the next game!


I thought you were trying to be scummy so you dont get killed and that totally worked? But ya your "town game" totally feel off from your first one
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#5258
On December 23 2014 19:50 liancourt wrote:
After rereading i dont think town would have won without hts.

I sure as hell wasnt going to convince town hf was scum when it was obvious.

kudos to hts


We woulda killed oats, xata, templar in some order. Woulda been hf in final 3 he could totally win but probably not I think? Would be like gb rust hf. Up to rust basically who was scumming hf. So I dont think they win
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 23 2014 17:05 GMT
#5259
On December 24 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
lol, GB, your initial case was bad, probably because your initial read was based on a gut read and you were trying to articulate it in a way to present as evidence. Read good, case bad, execution worse.

Between that and the screaming I turned off to everything else you said for too long. My bias, most definitely, and I need to learn that a bad case (Vivax had a couple) =/= scum or wrong. But you did kind of dig yourself a hole there, at least with me. SL has that effect on me, too. All the present talk made me inclined to ignore the good point you guys brought up about the present and HF later. I'm a bullheaded dingbat, but thinking things out before you present them will help you guys, I'm pretty sure.


I actually know that I talk too much garbage. The problem is that I can't keep myself from participating.
I still think that what sold me on HF being scum was the part he says people voting outside the main wagon looked terrible, but didn't make anything with it. Also, saying I'm awfully wrong as town and reading me as scum for being awfully wrong is so inconsistent that I couldn't believe he was town.

Anyway, HF played a VERY good scum, as always. If it was anybody else, I would immediately town read him. I didn't because it was holyflare.
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 17:09 GMT
#5260
On December 19 2014 19:25 sicklucker wrote:
Im not too interested in wasting my posts battling you im saving them to convince others close to vote. Ya templars probably scum. But yes you would bus him, this templar thing didnt start until it was very clear you were getting out voted over gb. Then you started this train.

You are claiming a vt who decided not to open a present and help town win.

Theres no wifmo in my case

1. Any vt ever would open this present. Your not a power role theres no reason for you not to take the 1/3 risk to become one its literally the only correct play. You also claim your on vacation and you shouldnt be playing mafia. Another reason you would totally take this risk for town. Your lieing

2. Ritoky claims kp present. He would only ever do this if hes sure he cant be counter claimed. This means mafia has the two remaining presents because we all know I sent one to dandred and he died because of it or with it. This again means your lieing because

3. Ritoky and ksc could kill you over ksc. They choose not to.

4. Bats, obiwan, tref, froggy All thought you were mafia. They are dead

5. We ask you who we sent the present too before ff. You ignore and then refuse to tell us. The reason for this is simple its in mafias hands. If you name a town they will deny it and you will be confirmed mafia. If you ask a mafia to help you out they will be guilty by association therefor it is your only play as mafia.

Like theres more thats just off the top of my head. I would quit this forum if im wrong here. Im that sure.
Vote hf not who he wants you to vote


I thought this post shoulda got hf lynched gave up after it was ignored and pushed his scum mates
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