I had a "Look at kelsier" reminder in my list because somethings seemed off to me. Looking through the filter, most of the beginning posts were joke posts.
On December 09 2014 08:35 KelsierSC wrote: 27nb gets a comfortable but elegant pair of slippers
hf gets a piece of wet cardboard with elastic straps
On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote: @ Slam @ Damdred
Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.
And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?
While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.
I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because:
A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad
And
B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers
And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off
##vote 27ninjabunnies
Enjoy your date
I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.
I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.
Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!
And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?
Well no. You said people talking about lynching lurkers are "off" and he was an "easy target to look scummy" which is already a contradiction in one post and now you are saying you know what he said and it doesn't look bad and people are making mountains out of mole hills which is a contradiction with your first post. There's a great deal of backtracking in what you are saying and I don't like it.
where is the contradiction?
she seems to be saying other people might find it scummy \flag him but she doesn't think it is?
Kelsier goes from that to this
On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote: I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.
Kelsier wasn't specifically defending me, but was saying that he understood exactly what I was saying about Froggy, yet then completely goes to agree with HF moments later when I get pressured. what is that?!
Everything else Kelsier has said makes no sense to me. It seems like he is just throwing out random one liners and baseless reads to be read as town. the only remotely thing that makes some kind of sense is the read on bats when he supposedly pinged out HTS for something said, and the read on Oats, both of which I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.
This post explain why. I think I've explained why I put Froggy as iffy, vivax, at that time. What do you think? Also, In that post you mention you don't like Koshi, or more so he's freaking you out. Can you go a little bit more into Koshi, and what kind of read you've made on him since that post?
And seeing as I'm being completely ignored at the moment (Seriously what's the point of me defending myself if no one is even going to interact with me?)
I'll leave you with a video of my college choir singing Christmas Music. This is us singing Carol of the Bells
On December 10 2014 08:44 KelsierSC wrote: Right so i asked hf to explain how you made a contradiction, he explained it well. I got a town read off him.
I'm curious that you call my play "one liners " considering all my reads have been well explained. Is there a read i didn't explain enough for you.
you said something like "he needs to learn how to read me" that is really scummy, how have you projected town, what have you done that allows him to read you perfectly. . It strikes me as fake indignation that anyone can find you scum
I don't really understand how I was contradicting myself, I think I made myself perfectly clear, and HF was just trying to rip anything apart he could find.
All I can do now from here on out is try to convince you all that I town.
But it looks like I might have to claim just to stay alive. Meh.
On December 10 2014 08:44 KelsierSC wrote: Right so i asked hf to explain how you made a contradiction, he explained it well. I got a town read off him.
I'm curious that you call my play "one liners " considering all my reads have been well explained. Is there a read i didn't explain enough for you.
you said something like "he needs to learn how to read me" that is really scummy, how have you projected town, what have you done that allows him to read you perfectly. . It strikes me as fake indignation that anyone can find you scum
There's like 9 people voting her. It would appear that more than just koshi needs to learn to read her if she's town.
On December 10 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: And seeing as I'm being completely ignored at the moment (Seriously what's the point of me defending myself if no one is even going to interact with me?)
I'll leave you with a video of my college choir singing Christmas Music. This is us singing Carol of the Bells
On December 10 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote: So rather than convince us your town, as you said is what you have to-do, you aren't going to bother and just "claim" right now, good job
No I'm gonna try and convince yall I'm town, but it seems as if no one is listening to me anyway, so I might just have to claim.
What did you think about my read on Vivax? More specifically, what is your read?
Also, you mentioned earlier in the game about a read on Slam. You found it stupid there were people calling him town. What is your read on him as of this page?
On December 10 2014 08:44 KelsierSC wrote: Right so i asked hf to explain how you made a contradiction, he explained it well. I got a town read off him.
I'm curious that you call my play "one liners " considering all my reads have been well explained. Is there a read i didn't explain enough for you.
you said something like "he needs to learn how to read me" that is really scummy, how have you projected town, what have you done that allows him to read you perfectly. . It strikes me as fake indignation that anyone can find you scum
I don't really understand how I was contradicting myself, I think I made myself perfectly clear, and HF was just trying to rip anything apart he could find.
All I can do now from here on out is try to convince you all that I town.
But it looks like I might have to claim just to stay alive. Meh.
have you finished reading? tell me who is scum and why; i don't think your kelsier read is bad, i actually don't mind it. it just isn't compelling imo. there is more than 1 scum in the game though, so who else?
I haven't finished reading. I'm coming back to this page to try and stay on top of current discussion as well as look into past discussion.
I'm actually very interested in the HTS discussion and contradictions in that. I was looking through and it looks like at first there was some attack on her for saying she was town, too, in response to me. I figured it was because she read my post where I claimed town and would lead us to victory. I think if anything, she would be the next target for a mislynch, if she is town. There's already so much pressure on her, but Idk, I like her as town rn from the page I am one.
Also, who is rsolutin? *sp* I don't like his entrance. Nor any of his posts after. Has anyone played with him?
On December 09 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote: Ok uhm we can lynch Templar because he is scum We can lynch bats because he is scum We can lynch kita because where the fuck is he We can lynch sicklucker because he is reading but not interacting kthxbai
I'd lynch templar because his posts, while long, are full of more fluff than slam's. idk who kita is but it's still early so give him a break I'd lynch sicklucker because I wanted to plynch him last game and he was scum.
I don't like either of their posts. At all. Rn, they are on my look at more list.
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote: Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.
The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.
i gave you and bats as town right
my ff read isn't an easy read at all.
so I'm not throwing out easy reads at all. Anyway I explained bats did the analysis on hts and it felt towny to me. Plus his manner feels like the other town games bats has played
You gave me a town read based on meta that is incomplete and didn't really factor in any game info other than "pressuring" which when you couple with my actual meta would mean nothing at all. Yet, when I say otherwise you somehow know it's still "town" Holyflare pressure rather than mafia.
Your bats read as I explained to anyone looking critically does not make any sense at all but he's still a d1 town list. I can see you making an analysis point on him but what about the stuff I just explained? Why was he still a town read after I pointed out he was picking and choosing who scum were based on absolutely nothing (he even just admitted it)!
And omg, we may make a town out of HF yet! I really like this view holyflare has. I mentioned before how Kelsier went from being on my side, to being on HF side. I think here, HF semi points out just how Kelsier pretty much buddied up to him.
As of this post, HF is townie to me. (Even though I don't want to call him town for pushing on me ;( )
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.
On December 10 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote: So rather than convince us your town, as you said is what you have to-do, you aren't going to bother and just "claim" right now, good job
No I'm gonna try and convince yall I'm town, but it seems as if no one is listening to me anyway, so I might just have to claim.
What did you think about my read on Vivax? More specifically, what is your read?
Also, you mentioned earlier in the game about a read on Slam. You found it stupid there were people calling him town. What is your read on him as of this page?
This "claim" stuff is garbage. You've already pretty much claimed a role just by saying it twice now and you haven't even tried to convince people.
I never said I'm claiming a role.
I could claim some random bs and still be town.
And Im trying to convince people. Wtf do you think I'm doing?
On December 10 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote: So rather than convince us your town, as you said is what you have to-do, you aren't going to bother and just "claim" right now, good job
No I'm gonna try and convince yall I'm town, but it seems as if no one is listening to me anyway, so I might just have to claim.
What did you think about my read on Vivax? More specifically, what is your read?
Also, you mentioned earlier in the game about a read on Slam. You found it stupid there were people calling him town. What is your read on him as of this page?
i think your viv read is bad, i dont understand what you are saying, he is town because of -link to post, why is that post towny, viv isn't in my town circle
i dont read slam d1
So I like his reads on Koshi, and I like his reasonings and explainations on me. It's not just some BS shit he tried to pull apart. There is a reason why I asked him to expand more on Koshi now that a few pages has passed.
Okay, so you don't read slam on d1. Why do you care how other people read him?
You were basically like, "These people read Slam as semitown to town." and basically said whoever read him as town shouldn't be reading him as town. If you dont read him d1, why should it matter if other people do?
This post explain why. I think I've explained why I put Froggy as iffy, vivax, at that time. What do you think? Also, In that post you mention you don't like Koshi, or more so he's freaking you out. Can you go a little bit more into Koshi, and what kind of read you've made on him since that post?
Thank you for responding.
I think Vivax is null/town as well.
I believe Keslier is bad for town. I'm not sure he will flip naughty, but most all his early posts were total fluff and for lack of better word he was flirting with you (Probably becuase I'm a sexist bastard but I am willing to bet he wouldn't have had the same length of interaction with someone he thought was a guy). It was pretty wasteful, and then I think he realized he needed to do something to look towny and thought "Hey, I'll fish for Scrooge since no one would be dumb enough to claim Scrooge" (Yes, I stand by that statement even with Kush's claim).
I thought it was scummy to continue playing along with the Kels interactions despite their unproductivity and there seemingly other discussions floating around. Why not engage Templur or Slam, why'd you continue to give any attention to Kels?
In your first list, you "iffy" I think it was Froggy, Kita, Fecal. You Null NF, Vivax and Kelsi. You note in your Null list that it's for tunnelling (NF) and for 2 defenders which were V and Kel.
In your defense of Froggy (you had 3ish posts defending Froggy) in one of them you stated how NF did essentially the same thing? So, why null NF and scum Froggy?
27ninjabunnies United States. December 09 2014 09:32. Posts 1987 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter @ Slam @ Damdred
Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.
And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?
While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.
Okay, I reread this like 3 times and had trouble understanding your last paragraph, so I'll try and answer the best way I can. I don't have scum on Froggy. I had an iffy. Iffy for me does not mean that he is scum. It's more of a null. The scum list for me would be the "People I need to look at". When I make reads, I put them under categories that'll best explain where my mind was at at that moment. I realize, prob doesnt work for other people reading.
I dislike HF at the moment more than froggy for his entrance post. Tbh, I understand there is a cap to posts (which I am probably rapidly approacing), but you shouldn't come into the game with the mindset that you aren't going to post much because of the cap. However, I did post a post just recently saying why I like HF now, for his view on Kelsier.
On December 10 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote: Defense of CHUPAZI!!
Why not lynch LS kusplain me this
On December 09 2014 22:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 16:23 ritoky wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back and here my current reads Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky Scum: sicklucker sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that. As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people.
I am really interested in that read in particular. Please explain it. Also, don't really like how you devote 0 space to your town reads and all of your space to null and scum reads.
What's even stranger is that one of your town reads voted on another of your town reads right here:
On December 09 2014 12:37 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote: You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory
you were here and actively responding to the thread and you tell him where to vote properly? why didn't you ask further into why he is reading him that way? especially when you have the OPPOSITE read for unexplained reasons. this just looks kinda fishy....i smell something funky brewing here boyz. your sicklucker read is on a guy who claimed his role and you didn't really state why you disbelieve his claim, then you waste time talking about null reads, then you give a bunch of unexplained town reads; many of which i am completely unclear on.
i really am not liking this guy.
OWS behavior is very similar to the game he was town when I was playing him on Campus Mafia when he had to replace someone. I wasn't aiming the 2nd question at anyone particular as I seen people trying to vote in this thread instead of the voting thread that was all. sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best. Also I looked at your town games FF and we played on Campus as town together that why I got a town read on you.
LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out.
I been reading this game and other games because like half the people I not played with before and also I am town this game I will role claim if I have to.
(Campus Mafia)
On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote: Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.
See I did this to a minor extent; I did scummy shit as power roles and got pissitude and got a free pass for a few games
Not gonna work read his filter and tell me he is town
you /= LS
Also, yeah, nb didn't actually claim mason. She's still just posting random crap. So far we've got dates, bras, boobs, funerals, choirs, what will be next?
Hey, it's christmas themed Gotta make it interesting somehow. I can have random conversations about non-forummafia things and still be town XD
But if you have a suggestion for what awesome random thing I should post next, holla at me.
On December 10 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote: Ah cool tubesock didn't read the thread.
my scrooge play was to get a specific read on ff i explained that before. Outside of that i have given lots of good town reads, all of which are developed reads not one liners, weird misrepresentation of my play again. If you need more explanation , ask.
fyi a guy talking to a girl isn't flirting, grow up.
Okay, I have only 33 posts made, so I'm good for now
WOOT MORE DEFENSE COMING UP!
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters. So it seems there is a ritoky/FF omgus voting between them going on?
I see someone said ritoky has a case on FF, but FF do you have a case on Ritoky anywhere?
Also, as for LS, where is your mind with that Slam. You said he hasn't done anything townie, but has he done anything scumm in your eyes?
Also @Slam- my bf does want to start playing mafia. Lol, but I think Ima introduce him to video mafia first.... Ya'll slaughter people here in forum. haha
On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote: Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS: Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification) and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading...
Also, how jerky is this?
I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me.
On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote: So i need to sleep and conserve posts.
I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.
I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.
its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags.
You may think you have, but you actually haven't.
Just like, I think I have defended myself pretty well, but apparently I actually haven't.
Your reads seem baseless and one liners to some people....
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.
#Unvote: Ritoky #Vote: KelsierSC
Since you have to go, you can defend yourself later
EPT
I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!
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