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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 18:31 GMT
#2241
On December 14 2014 03:25 batsnacks wrote:
I voted Holyflare since no one wants to lynch Trfel with me.


I will lynch Trfel with you since I think my scum reads are probably dead in the water lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:36 GMT
#2242
I'm not really back, but we need to change some assumptions. Sicklucker is playing absolutely FLAWLESS. GlowingBear is absolutely town but I only say that because of his intro 1 post which made me reevaluate. Everything else of GB's is garbage, he looks very scummy. BUT If you make yourself look at a world with those assumptions then reread page 102. Look at Sickluckers posts. Who is he REALLY defending? His play is flawless. Can you put yourself there? I'm really trying here but I feel alone.

I know they are watching and will be here during EoD. I am near positive I see them all.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 18:37 GMT
#2243
Make a case on me. You're calling me scum multiple times for things that doesn't make me scum.
I want you to say mafias motivation for things you call me scum for.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 18:38 GMT
#2244
Dude...
I'm adorable.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:38 GMT
#2245
On December 14 2014 03:30 rsoultin wrote:
Pues...

It's not far off from EoD and there are a very small number of people in the thread right now so...if folks think I'm wrong about GB and/or participation stays down like this I think the best of the other names brought forward is probably Trfel.

I did want to give him the benefit of the doubt another day, but to be frank, (pure policy and meta here, bleh) his sheer lack of presence in this thread is by far the most different from what I've seen of his play vice the other lurkers. His reads seemed strange to me, too, as I recall...town can be wrong, but for someone who can be pretty analytical they seem very lacking. I don't think he's talked about anything but not lynching FF...and not being able to keep up with the thread. Similarly to GB, I also see a lot of promises on reads that never get followed through on. Worse than GB actually. He's got less than a 1-page filter, which normally I'd be inclined to ignore, but...that's ridiculous for this game.

By contrast Oats only has 3 pages, but most of his posts you can seem him keeping things on topic, pushing discussion, questioning reads and pointing out logic flaws.

So, if/when it comes time for vote consolidation, I will be changing my vote to Trfel over Tube or FF.


You are sooo close. Look at pages 14-18 and assume everyone is playing PERFECTLY. Is Templar and Kelsier helping lure Ninjabunny to a trap and is the trap Froggy? Who is the first legitimate vote on Ninjabunny?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:40 GMT
#2246
On December 14 2014 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude...


I think you are 100% town. Although, you are playing terribly. Why'd you let Sicklucker mirror and parrot you? you drop a "this game is easy" and he parrots it TWICE????? You don't see you are a scapegoat????
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:42 GMT
#2247
On December 14 2014 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude...


You also use your part 2 to talk about presents when that implicates KILLING DAMDRED??? You are a scapegoat.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 18:45 GMT
#2248
On December 14 2014 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Make a case on me. You're calling me scum multiple times for things that doesn't make me scum.
I want you to say mafias motivation for things you call me scum for.


I've made my case on you multiple times GB. Unlike you I am not under scrutiny. I've explained what I think and why I think it. As for the gut feel that is contributing to it...what have you really done for town? Falsely brought up mass-claiming like that would be helpful. A bunch of jokes. A bunch of partial reads you have to be prodded on. Many promises you fail to carry out. (Your HF case is still unfinished.) Ritoky you were pressuring a little until others started...which, if you're town, why are you pressuring the guy you think is town (cause you're not going to send anything to mafia as town) then flip right back onto HF as soon as others start pressuring Ritoky? There's something wrong about how you're playing, and the scenario with both you and Ritoky as scum works. It is ballsy like Xata said...but assuming that mafia would never play ballsy...lol. If this is the way town thinks, that's the perfect way for mafia to play. Either way its WIFOM as shit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#2249
On December 14 2014 03:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude...


You also use your part 2 to talk about presents when that implicates KILLING DAMDRED??? You are a scapegoat.


Tube, sicklucker claims he sent damdred a present
Damdred dies and flips town
You can assume it was the death present
Mafia is unlikely to give present to town day1
Therefore, SL is town
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#2250
As for vanishing in the thread, it was after 3 AM. I needed sleep.

I'll be back after lunch. Again, if anyone has any questions for me, I'm happy to answer.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 13 2014 18:48 GMT
#2251
Sorry guys ive been in hospital since n1 , i haven't caught up and im doped up.

my reasoning and vote for ff is in my filter

##vote Fecalfeast
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#2252
On December 14 2014 03:47 Trfel wrote:
As for vanishing in the thread, it was after 3 AM. I needed sleep.

I'll be back after lunch. Again, if anyone has any questions for me, I'm happy to answer.


Give me something other than no don't lynch FF or excuse number 9999...or however many posts (less than 20) you've posted so far this game.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 18:52 GMT
#2253
On December 14 2014 03:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Make a case on me. You're calling me scum multiple times for things that doesn't make me scum.
I want you to say mafias motivation for things you call me scum for.


I've made my case on you multiple times GB. Unlike you I am not under scrutiny. I've explained what I think and why I think it. As for the gut feel that is contributing to it...what have you really done for town? Falsely brought up mass-claiming like that would be helpful. A bunch of jokes. A bunch of partial reads you have to be prodded on. Many promises you fail to carry out. (Your HF case is still unfinished.) Ritoky you were pressuring a little until others started...which, if you're town, why are you pressuring the guy you think is town (cause you're not going to send anything to mafia as town) then flip right back onto HF as soon as others start pressuring Ritoky? There's something wrong about how you're playing, and the scenario with both you and Ritoky as scum works. It is ballsy like Xata said...but assuming that mafia would never play ballsy...lol. If this is the way town thinks, that's the perfect way for mafia to play. Either way its WIFOM as shit.


You're so focused on this matter that you fail to properly evaluate what I've brought for holyflare.
What do you think of the case? Of the arguments?
Why do you think mafia would make a case on one of the strongest players in the game? Do you see ANY mafia motivation behind it?

I thought ritoky was mafia. I reevaluated it after putting more thought on it, mostly when I've realised HF is sure to be scum.

I'm saying people are town based on gut feelings and probability. I have experience with some players here and I feel comfortable after I see some patterns. Like batsnacks, his townplay is like this. Slam also. It's hard to explain why, because it's more of a feeling than logical reads.

I've townread you for the way you evaluated the present thing on sicklucker. I'm still reading you as town. I want you to get out of the tunnel you're currently in.
I'm adorable.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:53 GMT
#2254
On December 14 2014 03:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 03:42 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude...


You also use your part 2 to talk about presents when that implicates KILLING DAMDRED??? You are a scapegoat.


Tube, sicklucker claims he sent damdred a present
Damdred dies and flips town
You can assume it was the death present
Mafia is unlikely to give present to town day1
Therefore, SL is town


Which reinforces why SL is playing flawlessly. He's too scummy to be scum. You can't even see that he played you. And all of us. What better way to afford scrutiny, when you post such ridiculous stuff?

If you are town, would you have protected Damdred? I wouldn't have. Don't you think there would have been a couple more towny people? You don't see how convenient it is to later say you are responsible for Damdred's death? I mean you've been scummy all game. And continue to be. If I were mafia, I'd come back later and say "Everyone knows you can't possibly know or verify a present kill. It had to be a mafia kill and they were trying to cover it up with scheme and present talk." Guess what? That was you!

I saw it. That's why I listed you in my posts where I went nuts and tried to get Slams attention.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#2255
Countdown to Christmas

KelsierSC (2): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock
liancourt (0): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock, rsoultin, Holyflare
Tubesock (6): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, froggynoddy, Xatalos, Half the Sky, LightningStrike
ritoky (1): Holyflare, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, Half the Sky
froggynoddy (1): Oatsmaster
Half the Sky (0): batsnacks
Holyflare (3): GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, batsnacks
Fecalfeast (3): Alakaslam, Vivax, Holyflare, KelsierSC
Oatsmaster (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
sicklucker (1): Tubesock
Trfel (1): rsoultin

Currently Tubesock is set to be lynched. 4h6m until deadline.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#2256
GlowingBear, tell me what is a smarter play.

TownSicklucker - thinks he has a town on D1 and sends him a gift and CLAIMS he did.

MafiaSicklucker - Claiming to give a towny a gift (knowing who the townies are) and then using a kill shot on them. Then claims "Oh no! He must have opened the present!! Poor suicidal Damdred."

On a Starcraft 2 forum I find it hard to believe there are many stupid people. This isn't Super Mario Brothers, SC2 takes effort. You're saying that Sicklucker is more likely stupid and thus "town"?

REALLY???
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 18:58 GMT
#2257
Like, rsoultin, in a game with so many players, I have to focus on null to leaning scum. I have to have these preliminary townreads because I can focus on other players.

Triforce isn't looking good, Templar isn't looking good, Vivax isn't looking good, froggynoddy isn't looking good, HF is scum. That's where I'm at. And I want HF lynched. I'll finish the case on him soon. I know I'm promising things and not fulfilling them, but I've been very busy as I said and I'm not feeling well today to really put effort in that case. I may do it later today, before deadline.
I'm adorable.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#2258
Do you think that Sicklucker didn't know that claiming he is a JOYFUL CHILD and has a gift to GIVE??? Who read that and immediately think he was stupid for not only claiming it but messing it up and not saying A FUCKING ELF????

Yeah, Sicklucker isn't the stupid one folks. We are.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 13 2014 19:02 GMT
#2259
On December 14 2014 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
Do you think that Sicklucker didn't know that claiming he is a JOYFUL CHILD and has a gift to GIVE??? Who read that and immediately think he was stupid for not only claiming it but messing it up and not saying A FUCKING ELF????

Yeah, Sicklucker isn't the stupid one folks. We are.


Are you saying that elves start with presents and not joyful children?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 19:02 GMT
#2260
GLowingBear, why on earth do you think I"m towning you? What triggered it? Take a look at page 102. There is your answer. IT HELPS YOU IMMENSELY. Please.
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