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I giggled /in This is my 4th so i think i still count as new | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote: boring im town again afk Looks like we found our d1 lynch already ##Vote: Sicklucker | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way. That post is just really weird to me, why did he feel the need to say that he was town and then why if he is town is he afking? As town you need to try find out peoples alignments so you want to post more ask questions w/e as scum you have no need for that. I am also seeing if he actually went afk or not. I have only played with sicklucker once, actually there is no one in this game that i have played with more than once so dont worry I have little idea about peoples "meta" as well but who need it. | ||
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On November 25 2014 08:50 sicklucker wrote: I agree my read was a little weak. I still dont think its something a mafia would say. Me jumping to quick reads is nothing new when I subbed into the last game on day two my first post was calling breske scummy and someone else town. The town read was right, the breske read was wrong but even he said his vote was super scummy for getting the cop killed. The point is the guys who played with me last game know I make quick reads. But do they think that about breske? Im kind of curious because im not so sure he does. Im still not entirely sure what you got out of your "play" but i wouldn't really say i was making a quick read. You said you were going afk, as either allighnment this isnt good because it means i couldn't get a read off you. Im not sure who the question about me making quick reads is directed at but tell me, if i normally dont make quick reads what do you think of my allighnment? Same as if i do. I don't see where your questions are leading to. ##Unvote | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way. So i also thought this post was towny but for different reasons than SL said. The first time I read this i liked it because he was thinking about alignments like trying to work out what i was trying to do but on reread he doesn't think it was a possibility that i was voting SL because i thought he was mafia. Leaning town a little bit but mostly null. | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote: Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement. What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you. | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:24 sicklucker wrote: I agree some but of all people I dont expect you to insta vote me. We just played for like 2 weeks you know I cant keep my mouth shut for very long. If anything I talk too much as town So you think you talk to much as town but are suprised that i pushed on you ebcause you said you were going afk which is an excuse to not post as you didnt really go afk. Anyway damdred what do you have so far? | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:35 Damdred wrote: i have a two town leans, a few nulls and a slight scum lean Is this a thing people do so newbies dont sheep them early? Care to elaborate anymore? | ||
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I don't really like sicklucker at the moment but i can't really express why. I don't get why people make these "traps" and then he has come to almost 0 conclusions from it. Like the trap in itself is not alignment indicative because he set it up before he knew his role but he seemingly got nothing from it and it was just an excuse because of his bad initial post. | ||
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Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time | ||
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As much as i still don't get SL's play he is probably town i.e. wouldnt lynch him today. I also agree with kush about dicksmash but wouldn't vote him until I see what he posts at a later time like he promised. Really confused about Oats and bats need to reread stuff. Other people i havn't done anything that have stuck out to me so they are null for me. This is all really weak but i've had some dental work and can't concentrate that much | ||
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Also i don't think the policy lynch on kush is townie nor is it mafia. From what i saw last game and from what people have said it seems like kush will play a average game as mafia weather he is pushed or not. Bats has also moved on from it so unless he tries to push it again later it shouldn't be worried about. | ||
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And if he rolls over and dies as mafia then he will do it with or without pressure, what bats did was probably good but it isnt alignment indicative. | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:46 Damdred wrote: The tryhards are out in their full glory besides SL. Ignore me today while I find scum going to wreck them And then i don't think he goes on to question his scum partner so meticulously. This is just a gut feeling though like i don't think in this setup scum comes out and interacts that much with their partner when bussing is definitely an option for them. Although you can go down an entire meta hole of thats exactly why he would do it. Anyway are these two still your scum reads? What do you think of batsnacks and oatsmaster? | ||
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I think you are being paranoid about damdred but it could be a world just not one i think we should consider today. What do you think of bats taking his vote off of Oats to vote dicksmash? | ||
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On November 26 2014 11:07 batsnacks wrote: Oats seriously it shouldn't be hard for you to convince me you're town in this game. Give a good read on someone else it will go a long way. You're halfway there already, I agree with your meatpudding read. This feels like he knows Oats alignment and is trying to get him on his side. If not what then convinced him that oats was town that would make him then change his vote to someone he had an early town read on and hasn't done much in the mean time Yes the fact that dicksmash ahsn't done much in the mean time is bad and that he won't be around until later is also bad but I don't think bats has actually tried to figure out Oats at all and am not sure what he is trying to accomplish with his vote on dicksmash since he hasn't said anything at all about think he is scum. But is voting someone you dont have a reason not to vote for a good play. How many other people fit into that category for you at this time? | ||
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On November 26 2014 20:51 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: He didn't even bother to explain why. HES STILL NOT GIVING READS. What's your reads other than bats? | ||
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On November 27 2014 05:33 sicklucker wrote: So I really like everyone voting dick now. Hold firm my town circle. Everyone voting dick is in your towncircle? | ||
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SL i think its strange that when the vote had 5 people in it you didn't seem to think at least one was mafia and that you are already finding reasons to throw scum on people not for their play but for pre flip reasons on dicksmash. I still don't like SL's early trap as it achieved nothing and he didnt seem to make it try and achieve anything. I also dislike bats, yeah you can change votes as much as you want it isn't a big deal but I don't feel like the reasons you changed votes are justified. I also don't liek that you are wasting your vote to basically prove a point. ##Vote: Batsnacks | ||
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On November 27 2014 06:20 Damdred wrote: I'll try to be back for deadline driving atm, bresh, tell me what you think of the case and tell me what you think of SL Right now I like your case especially about how he sided with SL early but never pressured you back. I don't like that he has gone from the thread On November 27 2014 03:14 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: here's every vote post he's made, no explanation of thought process in any of them except "oats isnt like this as scum". so tell me bats why vote me if oats is playing scummy? also, spoiler alert, bats isnt going to switch his vote back to me so when i flip town he can conveniently forget he hopped on the wagon on me and start pointing fingers at my voters. The bolded section is really towny to me but could easily be written by mafia so it isn't enough for me to give him a town read. I just think this guy is going to flip town and i wish he would come back so i could actually justify that feeling. I don't really like SL. Telling the cop who to investigate and shit is always a bad idea just let them do what they want and his posts confuse me a fair deal and i don't quite understand his thought process a lot of the time. Like he seemed to jump so fast from thinking you and I were scum to then being happy to sheep you on dicksmash. Although this is the same as SL town last game so take that for what you will. | ||
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On November 27 2014 06:39 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: I mean how's this for wagon hopping? Slam is only voting you because he isnt caught up and you have majority right now. Because he isn't caught up he doesnt want his vote to have an impact or whatever if you get me. While it isn't good that he isn't up to date i don't think this is as scummy as you think | ||
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On November 27 2014 06:45 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: I mentioned it becasue a big part of the case on me is that I was wagon hopping on bats. Bats and alaka have done this once if not several times I don't think this is true for slam he hasn't really been hoping wagons. I don't know what bats is doing honestly i don't. I don't see why when he isn't pushing anyone else he seems to just default vote back to Oats yet didn't try to push it anymore. | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:03 sicklucker wrote: I think its more likely breske is mafia if he shows up town and less likely in reverse ill explain why after cool | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:25 sicklucker wrote: So ya we instantly agree and breske already said in his own words the two of us cant be a scum team lets vote him or shoot him. Where did i say this???? | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:09 Blazinghand wrote: Final Vote Count batsnacks (2): Oatsmaster, Trfel, Breshke Dicksmash Mcironcock (6): kushm4sta, Damdred, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, SickLucker, rsoultin, Alakaslam sicklucker (1): meatpudding Trfel (1): batsnacks Not Voting (1): Dicksmash McIroncock Currently, Dicksmash Mcironcock is set to be lynched. Landslide you say? Okay if dicksmash wasnt totally uninterested in winning this game he would probably be voting for bats HIS SCUMREAD. so that leaves the votes at 4 to 6. That means it only takes one person to change their mines for it to be 5-5 with the vote being pushed over by afk slam. I'm really starting to not care what you think sick lucker i voted where i thought I should | ||
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So how is it relevant to the fact that you instantly think i should be lynched and that i think if damdred is mafia you arnt??? this has no relevance. On November 27 2014 07:25 sicklucker wrote: So ya we instantly agree and breske already said in his own words the two of us cant be a scum team lets vote him or shoot him. Also there is only one group of people in this game that can shoot people at night are you saying you have this power? I seriously don't even think this is a scumslip I just think you don't think about your posts at all seriously SL you are so frustrating. | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:33 rsoultin wrote: What are we arguing about anyway? There was no reasonable way for a single person here to have known that Dick was the doc. Mafia knew he was town, sure, but why go out of their way to switch votes to another person last minute just to seem innocent when there was no great debate and only a couple here and there who disagreed with lynching Dick? Although if anyone claims they did that because of some great insight I suppose you can call BS on it. Still don't see the point of the argument y'all are having right now. Thankyou. I dont expect people to read me town because of i didnt vote him but the fact that sl wants to instantly vote me because i voted batsnacks is ridiculous. I didn't try and get votes of dicksmash because i wasnt sure myself. | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:37 sicklucker wrote: Ok I looked at roles before you posted that. Im playing in another game with a veg sue me whats this have to do with anything your talking to talk you know thats not a slip. Maybe you should concentrate on your posts more so you dont make mistakes like this then. | ||
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On November 27 2014 07:48 LightningStrike wrote: Oats and Damndred. Sorry the late reply for the night post but my fears had happened :|. rsoultin your apology is accepted. My reads had now changed because of this lynching. My scum team are the ones who pushed for DSMI Kush Oatsmaster Damndred. If we got a cop check one of those 3 out. If we got a Tracker go on to anyone since we got possible setups with a doctor revealed and we got no idea which setup is being used except for either Set up A or Set up C :| Pushing on someone and getting them lynched and then they flip town doesnt mean someone is mafia. Town can be wrong, town is often wrong Also sicklucker my read on you is that you havnt gotten anything from last game. You say noone townreads you ever? So why has your play not changed at all? At the moment i think you are towna nd this is why it is so frustrating. You think im mafia because i voted bats and say i should be lynched then backtrack on it later saying it was just a pieace of evidence. What about the rest of my play? Or are you going to vote me purely for one thing of "evidence' | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:08 sicklucker wrote: Kush didnt really give good reasons. Just that it was obv and I was bad for slightly town reading him early etc. But at the same time I think bats gets lynched if damdred doesint join in. What is the significance of this? Please draw conclusions don't just recount what happened. | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:52 Damdred wrote: SL is correct in that its weird that you would agree with one case and then vote in a totally opposite direction. However it is not scummy in of itself The bolded part makes me a little nervous, Hey guys this guy is wasteing his vote which I don't like so i'm going to waste my vote on Bats. Then you really don't push bats for the rest of the day even though you are here and you could of possibly got people on Batsnacks instead of dick. So no you voting away from a case that you agree with is not scummy, some of your other acions are questionable Yeah i ddin't try and force the vote to go onto bats because yes i did agree with your case i just didnt like how easily the wagon froemd as i said because there was little to no resistance to it and there was hardly even a counter wagon which i thought might mean that Dick was town. I wasn't going to push this thought though because his partners might have just been leaving him out to dry. Are you telling me you like bats? I didn't like bats and I didn't like Dicksmash, I voted for bats because i liked him less . What else have i done that is questionable? | ||
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Why did you specifically say i had other questionable actions yet you cant pinpoint anything else? | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:54 sicklucker wrote: So you dont vote him but would rather hes the one that dies? Thats like your standard I wanna keep my hands clean scum play. Nope how am i trying to "keep my hands clean" i didnt try to save dicksmash my hands arn't clean. The bolded section doesn't even make sense with the conclusion you drew. How is me admitting that i didn't want to take the vote off the person who flipped town keeping my hands clean? | ||
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How about you explain why damdreds case convinced you so suddenly that it made you be able to read him town and DSMIC mafia? | ||
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What in his case was so convincing? | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:12 sicklucker wrote: The same stuff that convinced you?. Yes one read was enough for me to switch since he was the only reason I was not since my early suspicious of him were why I didnt. Why cant you say exactly what that is then? If it convinced you so easily you should be able to say why. Why are you not answering the question? So you really think damdred is not capable of making one convincing read as mafia? | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:33 sicklucker wrote: Why dont you? See we can play this all day and your actually the one whos under the microscope for this not me. Your the one who agreed but didnt back it up by voting. I figured out he was mafia in another game. I feel I have a good read on him. Hes still null for me since how it turned 0out but at the time I was totally convinced I didnt need much tho I was on the fench. Brb eating maybe ill answer your question but I might not. I don't see whats so hard about this answer the question? Why are you stalling why cant you say what you found so convincing about damdreds case. You have a good read on him but he is null for you right now. Why is he null for you know but was town for you before the lynch? | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:01 sicklucker wrote: He was scum before the lynch. I dont vote with scums Are we talking about damdred? You deffs voted with damdred? | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:01 sicklucker wrote: He was scum before the lynch. I dont vote with scums Do you read your own posts? You said he was scum before the lynch? So you thought he was scum BEFORE the lynch yet still voted with him. I actually already said what i liked about damdreds case when damdred asked me. It was the fact that Dicksmash defended you and then didnt puch back on damdred when he was questioning you. To which dicksmash had no defense, not that he defended himself much at all anyway. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:21 sicklucker wrote: Well I dont think he is anymore because no role misses a vote when their being looked at. I would love bats to take a bullit What do you mean no role? this aswell makes 0 sense to me. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:25 LightningStrike wrote: After reading what everyone said from Oats would rather visit bats grave when his dog needs to take a piss to discussion on who to lynch tomorrow I think our best options is either Damndred or Bats. Bats because he keep changing his votes without a explanation which can be scummy or just bats trolling us like he did early on in the last game I played with him. Damndred because he help start the lynch actively without a good reason and had a baseless defense on his vote. So why did you sheep damdred if you think he started the lynch actively without a good reason? | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:49 batsnacks wrote: You guys shouldn't worry about what SL is saying because it's wrong. Just pretend he's saying, "I'M TOWN!" "I'M TOWN!" And pretend he's right. Best way to read SL probably | ||
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On November 27 2014 14:20 Damdred wrote: I didn't want you to think i was dodging you so I figured i should answer you now. Your lead up to your vote, vote and then actions around deadline were questionable to someone who thought that they were on the higher percentage lynch candidate. Besides that you seemed ok today, you didn't go hard at me for no answering you on your read questions though when you probably should of pressured the hell out of me at that point. I appreciate you going back and answering this. Probably should have but I thought you were trying to get newbies to make reads first so they werent sheeping you then you ended up making a case anyway. | ||
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On November 27 2014 14:33 Damdred wrote: Well I was trying to let things develop and some of the scum reads made me laugh pretty hard tbh damdred asked 16-17 questions he's so obvious scum. But the thread was kind of stagnant with no cases so I figured I should push the scummiest person. What do you think of oats bresh MM he has been focused on bats a fair bit but mentions reads on other people every know and then but everything seems to come back to bats for him. I agree with him on bats though and see why he is pushing it and like that he kept pushing it even though no one was really jumping on. I don't like that he wasn't around at EoD because if he has a strong mafia read id think he would try make himself be so he can push his read. This can probably be attributed to time zones though. So i think he is lleaning town this could be biased because he is also reading bats scum but I am happy to see him as town for now. The fact that im reading him as town and also reading trefel as town reinforces my feeling that bats is mafia because him and meatpudding were the only ones to not have their votes on Dicksmash at EoD and i think that while possible it is unlikely all three mafia stacked on him. | ||
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It is strange though that you were happy to leave your vote on someone who you seemingly weren't reading as scum. | ||
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On November 27 2014 15:42 batsnacks wrote: Yeah that was weird. It wasn't intentional though. Also, Dicksmash had the overwhelming majority and my vote wouldn't have mattered anyway unless I voted myself. Also if I weren't afk I would have voted dicksmash as either alignment. Yeah I believe you makes sense. Do you think anything slam has done this game is alignment indicative? | ||
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I'm not saying he is mafia or we should lynch him but i really hope he finds the time to contribute so if he is town we can read him as such and he can help us lynch scum. Also Trfel that is a big post. i will need to read it a couple more times when i wake up before I can look into the stuff you are putting forward because there is a lot to digest. The effort you go to with your posts and their flow reinforces my town read on you because I think you would be hard pressed to construct reads like these if you didn't truly believe them. I'm not sure why but your posts feel so emotionless to me though but i don't know if that is even relevant to anything. | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:15 sicklucker wrote: Ya that night kill wants me to kill bats. I think if its bats plus obv partner dand they would totally make that kill. I dont totally agree their scum but its the best math play right now. But we got time wifom, find other reasons to want to kill bats | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:42 Damdred wrote: Half maybe I need to dive him properly. Sl is acting really strange with all this nonsensical math stuff. Oats is weird but I wouldn't lynch today I have the same feelings about Half Im fairly sure SL is town, dont look at his weird math stuff. Last game the way rayn and then because of him kind of myself townread SL is that you need to look at the fact that he truly believes what he is saying is right and what he is saying is helping town. Never seen him mafia so could be wrong obviously. Why is oats weird? | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:49 Damdred wrote: Just isn't playing how I've generally seen him, he came into the game much more aggro than usual he generally isn't as nitpicky. Do you think nitpicky helps kill scum, or do you think it is something scum does to make themselves look like they are helping town. | ||
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Also bats can you do the same for Damdred. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:13 Damdred wrote: Sure bats is forgettable as mafia, basically if you can't remember what bats hasbsone or any of his posts he might be a good lynch. If bats is really passive he's a good mafia lynch, he sheeps people near eod and he dissapears only posting a couple times a day. its a loose meta read that I generally read bats on, the vote eod is the worst thing against bats the other things look like town play What other things look like town play? | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:17 batsnacks wrote: I think I have a bad habit of taking it for granted that people should just understand some basic things. It's fine i guess im just bad. On November 28 2014 09:07 Breshke wrote: Bats what is your read on damdred and why did you keep saying you two couldn't be mafia together? | ||
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On November 28 2014 11:31 rsoultin wrote: So this may just be a bias on my part but why in the world would bats and/or Damdred as scum choose to kill the one guy calling them out as scum, especially when Damdred pushed the vote on Dicks? It's so obviously an attempt by mafia to get everyone gunning for these two it's laughable. SL, if you're trying to get a conversation going, great. Now back off. Unless you just assume mafia is stupid as shit, this is the last move you should be making. You do realize you are also wifoming just the other side of it from SL.. I think bats is scum irrespective of who died at night. I don't think people have just been calling bats scum because of associations with damdred and find it weird that the scum read on bats is trying to be dismissed because of this reason. I dont see how anyone can be calling bats town. | ||
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Damdred why do you think bats ignored my question to give a read on you and to explain the "we cant be scum together". Is it frustrating because they are dumb questions or something? I think it is relevant and could easily be answered if he had stuff to back up the shit he says. | ||
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On November 28 2014 13:24 batsnacks wrote: I'm sorry I keep ignoring you breshke but this isn't the first time I've answered these questions and it is frustrating answering the same questions over and over again when people aren't listening. I don't think damdred would stick his neck out for me like he has if we were both mafia. It doesn't make sense, if we're both mafia, to bring so much attention on ourselves. As for as my town read on damdred, think about day 1. I'm town. Scum damdred would know I'm town. Scum damdred would not go out of his way to defend me to move the vote to dicksmash. Scum damdred doesn't care which town dies, if town dies he's happy, so it doesn't make sense for him to defend one town to swing the votes to another town. Damdred gains nothing defending me if he is mafia. No I understand that you had probably answered these questions in pieces everywhere but it was half me being lazy and half me wanting to see you explain it properly. This is going to be paranoid but the fact that "two mafia wouldnt do this" is the exact reason two mafia would do it but i get what you are saying. Your townread on him also makes sense to me know from your pov. Who do you actually think is scummy bats? | ||
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On November 28 2014 13:18 Damdred wrote: I'm not going to pretend to be able to answer for bats. But it seems that he is frustrated with how the thread is going, and thats null from either perspective. However its not a dumb question, (no offense to SL) the way he went about it is probably the least helpful that could of happened to be sure. Myself and Bats are not newb scum players in the least, bats is typically a scummy town player in most peoples eyes. So as scum you bus the hell out of bats if you get the chance to get the cred you don't hard defend your scum partner d1 and lead the mislynch into oblivion it is quite literally one of the worst moves you can do in this situation, and hen to top it off kill the person who is hard pushing BOTH of you. It is quite literally wifom but the worst play you can make as mafia, it is just stupid in general But it has been stated that we shouldn't really take the kill into account because of wifom reasons so wouldn't it be a good idea to kill the peson who was hard pushing you and just pass the kill off as wifom? I was roleblocked and its really weird. Why did they kill and roleblock inside the group that was voting on batsnacks? If batsnacks is town this has obviously been done to incriminate him but i find it odd i was roleblocked and oats wasn't. Oats was pushing harder than me and i would say neither of us came off as a role if anything bats came off as a role with his entire "you should be town reading me shit" If bats is mafia I don't see the need to focus the roleblock and kill inside the group that voted on him. So mafia knows it is a tracker and can just not let bats deliver KP. Unless he is the roleblocker then there is a specific reason to want to make sure anyone suspicious of him has a chance to track him but that speculation is useless. | ||
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On November 28 2014 14:27 rsoultin wrote: Well, whether you care or not, I have to agree SL that meat is a better lurker to pursue than Alakaslam. Excuse after excuse for not being active. Lol meat has one excuse and its that there is massive storms in Brisbane? Now i think just because he is from Queensland thats a good enough reason to lynch him but he has the same amount of excuses as slam. | ||
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rsoultin Meat/slam (Meat before slam because they both have given basically nothing but i feel slam has given a little more not that any of it is alignment indicative) I also still don't understand your townread on bats damdred. On November 28 2014 08:13 Damdred wrote: Sure bats is forgettable as mafia, basically if you can't remember what bats hasbsone or any of his posts he might be a good lynch. If bats is really passive he's a good mafia lynch, he sheeps people near eod and he dissapears only posting a couple times a day. its a loose meta read that I generally read bats on, the vote eod is the worst thing against bats the other things look like town play Care to expand upon the bolded part? | ||
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On November 28 2014 15:36 sicklucker wrote: I like that me oats and breske have the same list. Breskes pretty townie with that roleblock. I dont think mafia would waste it n1 No it is entire possible that they would waste it. They knew there was only a tracker left, that role isnt as bad as a cop or something so i think it is entirly in the realm of possibility that mafia would waste a roleblock that night considering there was only a tracker alive. This isn't the case obviously but I wouldn't base a townread on the rb. | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:21 Oatsmaster wrote: er so is damdred scum or town? You flip flop twice during this post. I dont flip flop. I say i don't understand how damdred is reading bats town and furthermore IF damdred is town his entire spill about the nightkills being horrible isnt true if bats is scum and he hasn't even seemed to consider it. He would be in my third lynch position if meat and slam did town stuff | ||
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On November 28 2014 16:28 sicklucker wrote: I feel like dandreds defending bats as if his life is on the line if that makes any sense. What does this mean about their alignments? | ||
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On November 28 2014 17:54 batsnacks wrote: He has a feeling scum are try hard but Two lurkers and the guy who claimed rb I think he is saying try hard scum roleblock themselves | ||
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I was also weirded out last night that oats had seemingly flipped on bats today but i am understanding it more this morning and think bats has been pushing more of a town agenda today especially with posts like this On November 29 2014 05:24 batsnacks wrote: Do you think it's weird that everyone wants to vote meat and no one wants to vote slam? I am suprised though that he is town reading me only off the rb but i don't think thats something mafia does because as mafia i think it would be easier for him to call me scum than for him to call me town given peoples problems with me D1 vote. Anyways LS why do you feel that your vote wasn't your responsibility, why did you even let someone who you should be unsure of their alignment "pressure you" into voting? | ||
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On November 29 2014 08:40 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways if you guys have questions for me I will be I don't know when but when I do I will try to answer them to the best of my abilities! Could you explain to me why if meat flipped scum you think it would mean bats is scum or if you have already explained this you can just quote the post. | ||
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Kush why havn't you been diving filters and making reads if im not mistaken this is something you only have drive to do as town? Have you done any scumhunting at all since D1 other than calling me scum and hardly even justifying it? ##Vote kushm4sta | ||
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I camf airly close to switching my vote to rsoultin nut being prompted by damdred and bats wasn't convincing me sicne i was nowhere near caught up. These two players have had a townread on eachother that i have failed to understand for a lot of the game. I get bats townreads damdred because he saved him from a lynch or whatever and damdred says he has meta reasons why he townreads bats but what use is that to me. It all felt way to convenient and im honestly worried of a world where the mafia is vets. From my first read of the pages i read i feel better about damdred because his case on why kush was town actually made sense to me and he could show examples of where kush had played similar. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:08 sicklucker wrote: So breske probably just lead two mislynches.... At best he got a mafia for the wrong reasons. i really hope we hit that gives us like 2 or more confirmed towns but I doubt it This doesnt make sense to me | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:34 rsoultin wrote: No one's finding anything off about this at all, huh? bats, sl, ls without any teeth pulling...riding on damdred's coattails. hts is cool w/ meat. oats mentioned meat the moment night ended. hopeless i'd bet will be jumping right on that bandwagon too many people. someone's bussing or something's off What has meat done that is town? Why didn't you have these views when dicksmash was lynched you seemed fine with that wagon. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:43 rsoultin wrote: I'm not sure why the dicksmash vote is relevant here, but that was a race between dicks and bats that was actually fairly even until the end. Here there's nothing but meat, meat, meat. So not the same situation. As for what meat has done for town, nothing off the top of my head. Doesn't make this seem any less off. It is relevant. Dicksmash was streaks ahead of batsnacks. Bat only had two votes for a majority of that day infact when you voted for dick bat had two and dicksmash had 5. Did you not have a weird feeling then about everyone jumping on dicksmash? So who would you rather be voting? You arnt happy with the meat lynch what would be better in your opinion? | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:57 rsoultin wrote: Problem is I don't know if I trust my opinion. I did switch to dicks over bats, you're right, and I probably should have noticed it looked weird then, too. I could've sworn there was a time when bats had about 4 votes...but I'd have to find when that was and it might take a bit. Regardless, being wrong in the past doesn't make me wrong now. I'd still rather be voting LS. Yes I'm still stuck on that. I still think he's contributed a whopping nada. He's also been after meatpudding's ass at least since Day 2, so either he's bussing meat, i'm wrong (along with most of the rest of the players), or we're going after the wrong person yet again. With so many uncontested votes on meat... You're not getting why this feels off? @ bats, why would it be bad if LS turns mafia, so bad he shouldn't be voted? I think you are thinking of D2, but D1 i don't think bats ever achieved that many votes. Im not saying that this feels off because I agree with you it does but mafia could easily buss or just vote now (since its the very start of day) and change it later. I would feel a lot better about meatpudding if he came back to the thread. I agree on LS. While he has been on meatpudding all game i think what he has posted most about was excuses on why he is playing timid or why the people he voted for are not his fault. Im honestly not sure if this is because he is scum or a new player though. | ||
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On December 01 2014 12:26 rsoultin wrote: Lol that would be true except my name keeps appearing in their lists too  . Which is why I think if everyone's on him, he's town. With that 6:3 ratio, we hit another town today we're down 4:3. SL probably gets killed tonight, lynch me tomorrow. That's game. No need to sacrifice scum to do it.Not like there are a lot of town reads everyone agrees on, yeah? So who else other than LS do you think it is. I have a towncircle of myself, SL HTS and bats but bats is there because i think i was wrong and because damdred is confirmed town all their involvement together doesn't make me as paranoid anymore. Also im confused do you think people are wrong on meat because you think they are also wrong on you? | ||
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I don't like your scum team mostly because everyone who was changing their votes around at the EoD is in them. Do you really think 3 scum would be apart of a 5 person lynch mob for now I really don't think that is the case. If you think bats killed damdred because he was townreading him why do you think I was roleblocked and trefel was killed? Trefels reads weren't imortalised with his death and lucky because he was wrong on at least damdred, so why would mafia think damdreds reads would not be reconsidered. | ||
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On December 01 2014 16:29 rsoultin wrote: No, Breshke. I'm reading HTS as town because if he was scum easiest course is just to switch his vote and let them take me out. If HTS is town, and I am scum, why would I care enough which town (kush or HTS) was lynched? The only logical answer is that we're either both scum or both town. Not enough people are willing to buy HTS being scum right now, even if most seem willing to buy that I am, but everyone is real happy with meat. I could just jump on that train. I should if I'm scum rather than drawing further attention to myself. As for the team, not sure on Hopeless. But Bats and LS I'm pretty sure on. Bats knew Damdred was dead before he turned up dead. Good guess, maybe, and yeah I could see Damdred being a logical choice for scum to kill, too. But bats really seemed to know. And what is this bs about lynching any scum being a bad thing? Of course this assumes that I'm town and I know a lot of you don't think that, and that the logic here As for oats...he seems to be trying to figure things out? I've never claimed to be sure of him, The third person scum I'm not sure on. I'm most sure on you, SL, and HTS as town right now...and leaning pretty sure on meat too just because of the way the votes are going. They should be trying to lynch me and aren't. Why pick scum over me? Doesn't make sense. I don't really think you had much chance to change your vote to HTS to egt him lynched because i think the oppisite wagon to kush was you for most of the day and in switching to Hts you would be opening yourself up to being lynched much easier. If you are scum and meat is town you get town cred if he gets lynched, if you are scum and meat is scum im sure you will say "i would never defend my partner like that". Why should we lynch anyone else other than meat. Does it not make you feel weird that you are defending him more than he is himself. Idk about that any scum being a bad thing bit i have no diea what you are referring tot here. Bats thinking damdred would die makes sense to me. If he is town he knows he is town so he knows damdred is on the right track, mafia also know this so it is logical at least for me that bats would think damdred would die. Damdred was also the one pushing the thread forward the most and put in the most effort to save kush. Wasn't like the last stuff damdred said about how we should lynch meat? Also im not so sure on your LS rscum read mind fleshing it out a bit for me. Do you think a scum suggests sleep on D1. This comes from a more newb town perspective to me, yes if we sleep there is no chance of us lynching scum but I don't think LS would have thought of suggesting this as scum that just doesn't make sense to me. | ||
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On December 01 2014 16:50 rsoultin wrote: I think Trfel was killed because he wouldn't come off bats, because he was trying the hardest in the game to figure things out, and because hardly anyone was reading him as mafia (though someone did say something about his long posts being scummy, only I can't remember who). I think both kills were solid town reads for the majority of the players in the game at the time of their deaths, which can only benefit mafia, since they can't force a lynch on them anyway. Not sure why you were roleblocked unless it was just because you've only been semi-active (pretty towny but not out there like some of the rest of the players) and they guessed you to be a likely candidate for a role. Not saying Damdred's reads would not be reconsidered. Saying that he and bats in each other's pockets plays really well to bat's advantage if he's scum, and until that little push where bats jumped on board bats was still being strongly considered. Plus SL all but said he'd follow Damdred's lead anywhere, and rolled bats right into that assessment. If bats is scum, he now has at least one town lackey. The other one most of us liked for scum is LS. I'm voting LS. ##vote LightningStrike See my problem here is you don't want to vote emat because everyone is voting him but you are voting ls right know because he is the other one most of us have liked. If you don't think scum is bussing then why do you think LS is scum? So you think mafia had a total different mindset about their kills during N1 and N2. N1 They killed someone who thought bats was scum N2 they killed someone who thought he was town I agree both these people were killed because they were being read town by a large number of players and were providing useful posts. I don't think you should be looking into any other motives with the kills because if you are then it doesn't make sense. You could be 100% right and that is another reason damdred died but it doesn't help your case at least in my opinion. | ||
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On December 01 2014 17:17 rsoultin wrote: Yes, I know, my case hinges on what I know and no one else can know, which makes this hard, but I still have to try. LS has been playing super timid, Breshke. Doesn't want to vote on Day 1. Was reluctant to make reads because he said he didn't know how town could win without the two town roles. Claimed I forced him to vote on dicks, which is simply ludicrous. I can't force anyone to do anything. Says he's scared to be lynched, because he was lynched last game for being too aggressive. Could be true, but I doubt that's why he's scared to be lynched. I'm voting LS right now because bats said don't, but didn't argue that he wasn't scum. It's weird. I want to see what happens. And I'm voting LS right now because if I do vote meat...I strongly suspect he'll flip town. ^ How does that make any sense? More to the point, bats has not answered when I ask him. So if everyone switched their vote to LS would you still want to lynch him? My problem is that your townread on meat is solely from the fact that everyone is voting him. Mafia is in a good spot and i think bussing isnt a bad play here. Also if me misslynch today it ism lylo tomorrow, do you really want to leave meat until then? Your townread is based not on his actions but on the actions of others. I agree that LS entire "scared to be lynched thing" isnt helping anyone but there is a chance this is really coming from his point of view. LS for when you are here i think you need to give reads, being scared isnt even a real thing. | ||
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I don't think all three mafia was in the lynch mob (Batsnacks, LightningStrike, Hopeless1der, Damdred) because there was a very townie intention behind it and that helps towards me reading bats town because if I had to commit to one town between the three of them it would be bats for sure. Im liking you today rsoultin because the way youe asily responded to me and I think you reacted in a towny way when i was pushing on the fact that you didnt want to vote meat but were happy to vote dicksmash. You explained it and have stuck by it. Also furthermore on this I don't think you are scum with LS nor do i think you are scum with meat. While you could easily sacrifice LS here if he is your scum buddy it is a play for the long game because it increases the amount of lynches you have to survive and amount of days you have to be townie for. Also I highly doubt you are scum with meat because I don't think you defend your partner that much when he wont even defend himself, you would be more annoyed with him and would just vote him and take the town cred. I had a quick read of Ls filter and realized he didn't make a single read on day 1 and voted dicksmash not because he thought he was scum but because rsoultin reassured him it was a very low chance to hit a power role. After this first day he talks more about being scared which fits is more excuses for him not making or pushing reads which is scummy in my eyes. I havn't really been sure on Oats much this game and its hard because ive missed large portions of it which i can just reread but it isnt the same as being around for stuff. At the start of this game he was making the most sense to me when he was pushing on bats and damdred. Realizing now that my paranoid world of damdred being scum is wrong. The fact that his reads now are also people who are possible scum for me is good because his reads have developed and he still isnt just pushing bats. Meatpudding im actually unsure of and have to go back and read more why bats/damdred are so sure he is mafia. I liked his early game and i think some people don't like him because he makes a lot of list posts and thats an easy way for scum to look town and look like they are giving a lot without actually giving a lot. Although im fairly sure meat was in my very first game and list posts were almsot the norm in that game so i don't think that makes him scummy. I don't like that he hasn't been around at all today because it feels like he has given up and i think it is more likely that scum gives up because it is easier to convince people you are town when you are town. I have nothing on hopeless but he could easily be scum considering my reads on other people. This post got longer than i thought so TLDR Scum LS, Meat, Hopeless | ||
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On December 01 2014 21:03 sicklucker wrote: Like I dont think Ls is with meat. I dont think he snap votes him as a new player like that. So do you think LS is town or meat is town? | ||
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On December 01 2014 21:04 rsoultin wrote: Edit: That was directed at bats in case it wasn't clear. And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that. wow you read that fast I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat? | ||
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On December 01 2014 21:18 rsoultin wrote: I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble. As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment. Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later. How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying. I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it. | ||
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On December 01 2014 22:25 LightningStrike wrote: I did make a couple of posts of my reads Day 1 and here is proof. 1. 2. You can't say I didn't do reads Day 1. Point one the only read you made was trefel town which was fairly obvious. Point two is a lsit with hardly any justification. The fact being you didn't vote dicksmash because you thought he was scum did you? you voted him because people said voting no lynch was a bad option. Also SL if you want to ping people out for not mentioning people why hasn't LS mentioned Bats in his point 2 above. it was the only player he has left out. i agree with oats while mafia can tend to not make reads on eachother town can just as easily have nothing to say on someone or just forget. | ||
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On December 01 2014 20:42 batsnacks wrote: What's sad is at least 1 townie is voting lightning. Also this post worry's me bats. | ||
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Im sure that will convince a lot of people. Rsoultin and others on LS what do you think of meatpudding coming back to the thread just to say he will vote LS to save his life then define what hammer means but not actually try to find scum or say why he shouldn't be lynched? Does he even think LS is scum? we are one of lylo if he doesn't want to be lynched he should be pushing for someone he thinks is scum not the opposite wagon. | ||
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This is a bad play never lynch for information lynch for who you think is scum. HTS who is scummier LS or meat? If you are going into possible lylo do you want meat there? You need to be trying to lynch the scummiest person right now not the person who will give the most information. | ||
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If you think meat is obvious scum why not vote him. If he flips scum we are not in lylo tomorrow and can still lynch LS if when we reevaluate thats what is decided. The problem is i can see LS being newb town and justify some of the stuff he has done because of that but for meat i cant justify why he wouldn't defend himself or give reads today but still post in the thread that he is going to vote to save himself. | ||
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Also i dont get all the sickluckers posts you just quoted hopeless or what you are trying to prove but then again i don't understand a lot of sickluckers stuff. | ||
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On December 02 2014 11:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Horrific read. Good job hopeless, you just nailed your coffin shut. Was it even a read? What train of thought do you think hopeless is going down here oats? | ||
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##Vote: Lightningstrike Im going to bed but im setting my alarm an hour or so before deadline so i should be around by EoD. All four of my towns were voting LS before i convinced HTS to swap back to meat and i feel more comfortable voting with them. This does not mean i don't think meat is scum | ||
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LS you can still not be lynched convince us meat is scum? i almost want to switch onto hopeless but i dont think there is enough people here or it is a good idea. | ||
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On December 03 2014 06:50 LightningStrike wrote: I sorry but I would need like a hour to prepare for the case for him and it's EoD so sorry  Fair enough i guess | ||
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On December 03 2014 06:52 rsoultin wrote: Fair enough Breshke, you're right. I misread that. Well, as I said, I've been having a couple doubts. Breshke, what do you think? I'm willing to change my vote to meat. No argument that LS defended himself better. If you want to change to meat you can but i think i will be leaving my vote here. Don't let my opinion affect yours im horrible at this. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:12 rsoultin wrote: Ditto. Though apparently he wants nothing from me so won't answer my questions xP As an aside, Breshke, you're my top town right now. Don't go anywhere lol. I like how you kept probing everyone this last phase. You're the one who started the wagon the the flipped scum props to ya. What do people think of meat now? | ||
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On December 03 2014 09:45 Oatsmaster wrote: meat. ok so the possiblity exists that today was scum & scum but it seems like if that were the case, there would be a push one way to kinda get cred for lynching scum and to give the other guy some space and time, but there was nothing like that yesterday. The way meat went onto LS seemed very releuctant to me but thats only from what i remember. Also if you had to pick a scum between rsoultin, HTS and SL which would it be. | ||
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On December 03 2014 10:13 Oatsmaster wrote: Well yeah exactly, if meat were scum, he wouldve been harder onto LS because he knows that there is no other lynch possibility so might as well get some cred. Town just thinks about who is scum. Probably HTS but I really dont see any of them being scum. Why are you asking me lol. We still only have 1 Thats a good point about meat i didnt think of it like that. Idk mainly because in my towncircle of rsoultin, HTS, SL and oats i am least sure on you and i really don't know why. I have been on the same wavelength as you most of the game so i have no idea why i cant just accept you are probably town. | ||
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I also agree bats is probably the lynch tomorrow. In his mind if ls was scum he was never getting voted so if bats is town and had his way he would have lost the game. Being this wrong as town i would expect he would actually try and do something to make up for it. It still worrys me that damdred was so sure on him though so rsoultin could you quote the bit where he says when bats gets quieter it is more like his meta. Also i like oats he actually gave a reason to vote LS that made sense and stuck with it because even though i was saying i was willing to change my vote i was still campaigning for people to vote meat (not knowing meats alignment this doesn't mean that much) but eh at this stage i still think he is town. I don't see myself ever voting rsoultin, HTS or SL and it is good that at least one of us have to be alive in final 3. I think everyone should post a lynch order so we can try see where people disagree easier Bats Hopeless Meat Is mine from top to bottom. Just incase anyone is confused there is 3 names in case one of the first two is town. | ||
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On December 04 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote: Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch. What has changed since this post bats? | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:27 batsnacks wrote: I thought oats would die. Here's what's going on: meat is scummy If meat is scum (I think he is) then oats might be mafia If meat is town (I don't think he is) then oats isn't mafia So by voting meat I get to vote 1. who I think is scummy and 2. someone who's alignment would be helpful in solving the game. As opposed to hopeless who is just 1. scummy. 2 is better than 1 is the point I'm trying to make So why if oats is mafia do you think meat might be? Are you saying if oats is town you are going to clear everyone who voted LS? from what i have gathered from your POV you seem to think hopeless is scum no matter what anyone flips so why not just lunch him first to confirm that and get a better picture of what is going on this game. | ||
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You just said if meat is scum oats might be mafia/ what is this based off if not the votes yesterday? | ||
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His last post was about SL and was asking people what they thought about his posts. He was obviously trying to make this lead somewhere yet has failed to follow up on it. This is probably the best lynch for today. | ||
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Also if bats is mafia i would think it weird him telling us to lynch meat and if meat flips town oats is probably town because right now there is a strong towncircle well at least for me of rsoultin, myself and HTS. If meat flips town and he has provided logic that saying that he would then think oats is town the only two players left is bats and hopeless and i think bats would be more aware of this is mafia. Although one could say he was setting himself up to scumread HTW with the following post On December 04 2014 07:17 batsnacks wrote: This is the second time you've been more confident in rsoul alignment than your own? 0_o Also i think it is legitimately scummy to point something out and ask people to comment on it and then to not post again? Like hopeless obviously thought he was on to something so even if he was busy you think he would try and follow up. | ||
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On December 04 2014 14:04 rsoultin wrote: Simply put my theory is based on the assumption that you are town meat and that scum isnt dumb enough to bpoth all vote for you and all play shenanigans with damdred end of day 2. So hopeless or bats as scum not both. I think you are looking to much into votes which happened at the very start of the day. Why would scum not vote for meat there weather he is town or mafia. If he is mafia they take the vote off him and put it on someone else (a town). This does them no good because now they are both linked and suspicion goes on both of them If he is town they take the vote off him and put it on another town. This just draws suspicion to them in my opinion because I doubt they could have come up with a good reason to accuse a different townie of being scum I think the fact that meat was voted by everyone there says nothing about his alignment. Also meat wasn't someone who did shennannies with damdred at EoD2 so i think you need to not give him a pass. | ||
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On December 04 2014 16:05 rsoultin wrote: We are currently at 5 town to 2 mafia. A mislynch today puts that at 3 town to 2 mafia. We are no better off today than we were yesterday. And people want to lynch a coin flip. Or gamble on both options yesterday being scum...2 out of 9. Possible, but highly improbable, especially with an early vote buss. Explain to me, please, breshke, what the purpose of an early vote buss would be for mafia? Later on in the day it makes sense. These votes came in within the first hour or so, one right after the other. We miss we're at lylo tomorrow. Who do we vote off of hopeless not flipping? Bats? Oats? Meat? Who do we vote if he does flip? What does hopeless tell us? He's been so afk we can't really analyze him even if he flips scum. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Because they only have to misdirect us one more time. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Why would they buss? If your doubts are all pushing hopeless why are you falling into line? We get it right...we start tomorrow at 4:1. We mislynch it goes 2:1. You really want to start tomorrow, either in lylo or mylo, with a flip that doesn't give us any further information? It's not enough just to get scum. But I've made my stance clear, and I'm not going to keep pounding it in. There are five town here today. Hopefully we can get this one right. An early vote bus makes them fit in with town. they see people they know are town voting their partner, lots of them so they do it in turn so they dont stand out. What if bats is town though rsoultin? Do you want to go into lylo with a coinflip? Hopeless has promised to pick up before EoD so this isnt like a final thing but at this stage of the game i cant not vote someone who has done literally nothing other than try to start a push on someone and didn't explain their thought process at all when it was obvious the push wasnt going to stick. Also i think you misunderstand me. I agree with your bats read and i have also been scared of the paranoid world of bats and oats. It feels very convenient that bats is rising up oats's town list but there is every chance he legitimately reads him as town. Also if you think Oats is mafia why doesn't he hammer meat (who you think is town) yesterday sending us into lylo. For now i think if you think oats is mafia you have to think meat is his partner. | ||
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Oats was one of the first to switch to meat and unlike sicklucker who switched before him oats actually gave a reason. If you read through oats actually tells people to switch to LS as well. | ||
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Also batsnacks you were getting confused when he reffered to something as a miss lynch he was referring to himself not hopeless. I also hope you didnt actually think rsoultin was mafia there as well. | ||
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Also HTS i did change my vote to meat so i did do something but i thought bats said he wasnt going to so I switched back. I effectively got him lynched. | ||
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The fact of the matter is yes me rying to egt people to change to meat probably got bats lynched but you were around at EoD HTS why were you happy not to change your vote. You seem to be blaming myself and hopeless a lot that bats got lynched but YOU could have changed your vote. Why were you so sure that bats was mafia especially in those last 10 minutes. I don't like meat, I think oats is town | ||
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On December 07 2014 11:44 Half the Sky wrote: Alright, this is fair. First, I know you didn't start the shenanigans. I should not have couched it that way. But it was happening so fast, and a bit too fast for me. The votes going back and forth was what upset me because in those minutes I could not figure out what was going on when it happened. Specifically I saw this followed by the voting on Meat. So I couldn't tell if you were going to change your mind or what. When Bats also said that he wasn't doing it with 3 minutes left, that's when I knew it wasn't going to work (especially with Rasputin airborne IRL). Could I have changed my vote from Bats, sure, but like I said before, I was convinced that Bats was more scumlike than Hopeless based on the behaviours described before. At EoD D3, I wasn't as convinced on Meat after reading the LS stuff as I was Bats and Hopeless. Given my position at that time, I didn't sense a need to. I even posted twice in there saying my vote wasn't going anywhere. On the second question, fair enough on you not liking Meat and saying Oats is town. And now knowing Bats is town, I agree. I'll tell you when it did occur to me when Bats was town - when he said "I hope I get lynched I'm over this dumb game" then I go to respond and at that point time my message marker showed 2200. Any earlier and I'd have mashed some keys to save him, because that was the dead giveaway. I've found his behaviour extremely discouraging, let alone indicative of a townie to begin with, and I'd be lying if I said otherwise. (Similarly I don't believe I'm the only one that said this, I know Sicklucker said the same thing earlier too.) After EoD D2, I thought things would change but then the question dodging and such came up again, and I kept telling myself "should I be really ignoring this?" I have said multiple times I didn't believe in meta, but that might have to change based on my general performance this game. I really don't ever want to be doing this poorly as a townie again. Honestly, I am frustrated with myself. You are still trying to put blame on other people. I didn't start the shenanigans so what i was the first to suggest it. Is hopeless mafia maybe but you voted bats aswell and i don't get wy you seem to be trying to dodge blame for this even though noone is blaming you. Also honestly i dont buy the entire "I couldn't figure out what was going on". If you wanted to stick buy you bats read that is fine but i feel like you are trying to dodge so much blame here when it isn't even coming your way. Oats right now i think its hopeless and meat but I cant fathom why meat would vote his partner yesterday because i don't think he gets enough cred if hopeless flips mafia for him to be read town. Whats your opinions on this? | ||
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If meat is town this is horrible. | ||
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Also think it is hardly fair to nominate bats for a blooper or whatever when even if his vote got himself killed he still voted mafia. | ||
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On December 12 2014 07:42 batsnacks wrote: In my defense it was your fault. I thought I was getting lynched when you switched so I just said fuck it and switched too. haha thats what im saying i suggested it so it is mostly my fault. Also im just crushing your dream of ever getting an award soz | ||
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On December 12 2014 08:01 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, you make me proud, my son! hahaha proud of the fact that im cursed to lynch a power role D1? | ||
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On December 12 2014 08:05 GlowingBear wrote: HAHAHAHA I've laughed so hard when I saw that But you've win the game, which makes me proud  hahaha at least I didn't go 0/4 in my newbie games On December 12 2014 08:16 sicklucker wrote: But if he changed his vote he would have hammered mafia Same could be said about any town voting bats there. Also have you ever tried to hit that tiny little bold button on a phone then get all your formatting right its horrible haha that's why it isn't just bats fault | ||
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