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My three (no particular order)
Meat, Oats, LightningStrike
Seems like we agree on Meat and Oats. Just pick either one of those two and go with it. N2 death will also reveal more.
Also Bats, just because someone is vanilla does not mean they are going to be correct, especially not being a power role. I'm fully aware I am massively failing this game.
Damdred, I get your point on Breshke, but how probable is it actually? I guess you're saying that because he did nothing at EoD.
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On December 01 2014 06:39 batsnacks wrote: Breshke also kept his vote on me d1 because "he wanted to help someone [dicksmash] who wouldn't help themselves" or something to that effect, I don't remember the exact quote. So that and the rb claim are kind of weird things mafia could use to gain town credit. I agree with damdred don't sleep on breshke.
Thanks. I understand what you are saying, should I survive, I will be sure to have a look through his filter.
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The hell it didn't bold...
##Vote Meatpudding
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Hopeless: You and Damdred yes, LS, no. No explanation on either vote, sleeping the whole game 100% Breshke and Rasputin: I agree that LS is scum. He is new player and he is scum. He obviously not a PR, so...the whole "forced my hand" comment was the first red flag and following the mob EoD D2 was the second.
I'm not sure what bussing means but the problem right now is that we are getting too close to lylo one so on page 70 we put out our top three scum and are voting on the most common one. Meat by far.
If you disagree with Meat, why?
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EBWOP - FU autocorrect. LS was SHEEPING the whole game 100%.
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Meat, you might want to check page 71. Damdred scum?
1am here...I'm out.
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I've given my reasons for wanting to vote LS, both Meat and him to me I've explained at least twice each now.
I cannot vote them both here.
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SL I'm trusting you on this. I understand your case on Bats but he had both you and me on his top 4 along with Oats and Meat. He said if LS is mafia we lose on that same post because he suspected us more? It still doesn't add up.
Bats can you please explain that plus your case against Rasputin? I still don't understand your case on Rasputin. I have read this 3x.
The main thing with Bats is the question dodging. This can be proven. First, Oats, me, Breshke and now you. Is this meta SL?
I am thinking to EoD 2. He had held me hostage to switching the vote on you. Why would a town do this? Is is common for a town on town squabble? SL I can trust your opinion on this one.
Still am fine with a LS vote. More than. All these questions. It is a plausible case.
##unvote ##vote LightningStrike
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GG Android browsers not liking the BB code bold button? It's not kicking in. Trying my work laptop...
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Updated apps. That was weird.
Anyways, Hopeless I still have no idea. Null. Still.
He sheeped both sides, but at least he/Alakaslam admitted they sheeped for the sake of sheeping. At least D2 didn't say explicitly but you could tell and his support for Kush's meta was his reason for not wanting Kush.
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The vote is currently tied at 4/4. I assume Meat will vote LS to save himself later onwards.
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Breshke, you are forgetting one important piece of the puzzle here.
If Meat does NOT return, he gets modkilled. We are lylo one, we have to take that into account.
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On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote: I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.
I have felt this way for awhile, and that is why I refused to change my vote to Rasputin. If he was scum, he should have voted me down, in fact he should have quick hammered me for both a modkill (Kush) and the vote kill (me) and then town still would have been worse off. That plus N2 would have taken us directly to mylo (5:3).
I was actually waiting for Rasputin's vote - the rest of the lynch mob was predictable at that time - and it didn't happen.
I still have a major problem the way Bats held me hostage. If this is a common town-on-town tactic, someone please tell me it is, because it's just wrong. Look at EoD #2 again. He pleads Damdred to change even though the latter said before he was reluctant to switch back to me. Damdred grilled me, we had a philosopical difference on meta, we spent 40+ minutes clashing before he accepted my train of thought. A reasonable townsperson (which Damdred was) flipped, who relied on his Bats meta would have grilled me, a new player, someone he didn't know.
I swear I thought I would throw these assumptions away after EoD 2 but this shit (along with the question dodging) keeps coming up again. WHY!?!?!!?!?
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On December 01 2014 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote: NEVER MENTION MODKILLS. EVER.
Just dont. Its out of game stuff. Never do it. In any game you play.
Am I breaking any rules by mentioning this? This is a serious question. Because I think I actually did break the rules once this game. (Hint: Rasputin/Breshke already drew attention to it.)
Otherwise, I'm confused. Is there a general rule I'm not aware of? Kush would have been modkilled D2. This is not a new issue this game.
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Rasputin, I'm going to take this from the mass Wiki:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hammer
A hammer is a vote on someone which results in the majority needed to lynch them. Once the hammer vote is placed, the game moves into Twilight until the mod posts the death scene. The player who has been hammered is considered beyond salvation as of the moment the hammering vote has been placed; barring the influence of a role like a Governor nothing will stop them from getting lynched. Many mods allow hammered players to post in Twilight but some do not.
A Quickhammer (sometimes seen as QH) is a technique (usually) used by scum to secure a lynch by hammering a player before anyone can react. These are most notorious for winning the game in LyLo situations. If one Townie votes another Townie, theoretically all of the living scum can pile onto the wagon en masse and secure the game-winning lynch. However, this can be done in other situations as well in a move to cut off the Town's discussion as the game moves to Night after the lynch.
Also mylo and lylo to clarify - I know we covered it before, but again:
MYLO - Mislynch and lose http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mylo
Mislynch-and-Lose, or MyLo, is a game state where the Town will lose if it mislynches during the present Day phase. This is different from LyLo in that LyLo requires the Town to lynch correctly, whereas in MyLo the Town is still afforded the opportunity to No Lynch without forfeiting the game (though this generally makes the next Day LyLo). While the opportunity for No Lynch is available in MyLo, whether it should be done is a different question. On the upside, by refusing to lynch the Town may be able to give its investigative roles another chance to work their magic. On the downside, if the Town has already massclaimed or if there are no roles that can make use of the Night remaining, opting not to lynch will simply give the scum a free kill on the Townie who is most likely to help the Town lynch correctly at LyLo. Lylo - Lynch correctly or lose http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=LyLo
Lynch-or-Lose, or LyLo, is a game state wherein the Town must lynch scum during the present Day phase or they will lose the game (often by being endgamed by scum). It is also called Lynch-right-or-lose. It is generally easy to tell when a game is in LyLo because there will only be one more Town player alive than the number of scum. For instance, if there are five players alive and two of them are scum (thus three of them are Town), the game is in LyLo. This can be adjusted for the presence of multiple killing groups, but the premise remains the same.
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On December 01 2014 22:53 rsoultin wrote: okay, I know i'm tired. oats loving everyone made me think of sowing oats.
Deary me, between that and the fact you were posting a few hours before, makes me think you were up all night your time. Or at least way too early or stayed up way too late.
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Rasputin, that's brutal. Get a good rest, that.
Lightning, do you have any explanation for why you voted the way you did EoD D2? Can you expand upon the first part of your first vote (the bolded part)?
On November 30 2014 06:44 LightningStrike wrote: Okay rsoultin stuff is now not making sense after reading stuff that bats wrote on him and what Hopeless wrote on him and kush would not be a good lynch today so I suggest we go after rsoultin since he voted on me I guess it's time for my move. ##Unvote ##Vote rsoultin
On November 30 2014 06:58 LightningStrike wrote: Roger Bats ##unvote ##vote: Half the Sky
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