VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint

On November 18 2014 16:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well this should be chock full of fail.

On November 19 2014 03:20 KillerSOS wrote:


game on sson

On November 19 2014 14:10 KillerSOS wrote:


what's this I don't even

On November 20 2014 16:28 Holyflare wrote:


Only mafia would shoot me in the night. This is the second super jump on whatever you can and think you're obnoxiously right that you've done in 2 hours though which is pretty scummy

On November 22 2014 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
pretty poor that the "good" players want to be on this wagon when he's literally writing essays though

On November 22 2014 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
"hey so gimme a hand bro? ktx (k thanks)"

On November 22 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:

Is he asking for someone to heal him then?

On November 22 2014 06:16 The_Templar wrote:

Because I'm not ignoring everyone in favor of one "easy" person. I explained why I thought someone that was considered to be town by a large number of the players is probably mafia. I also paid attention to other people and talked to them.

I can be more helpful later in the game than certain other players.

On November 22 2014 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
and yeh slam essays mean very little but writing that much means he gets to live another day imo

On November 22 2014 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
especially when there's loads of other ppl doing nothing (myself included)

On November 22 2014 06:17 The_Templar wrote:
So this is what it's like to play with the legendary alakaslam

On November 22 2014 06:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Slam do you have scumreads or just townreads?

On November 22 2014 06:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Gb slam on a scale of 1-10 how drunk are you

On November 22 2014 06:31 The_Templar wrote:

I pushed liancourt who didn't ever respond. Then I pushed VE who ridiculed me for it

On November 22 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:

He formed a few opinions early in the game, never really let go of them even when it was really obvious he should have, agreed with rayn and other likely towns about just about everything they said.
He never really justifies his opinion, but instead makes everyone's contradictions seem pointless.

Holyflare: Mostly focused. While a lot of the posts are 1-line or filler, there are a lot of posts that actually explain some sort of thought process instead of admitting there is proof. Town read
The_Templar: --
KillerSOS: Lurker that made a strange post. Null
liancourtyboy: Not playing the game
Hopeless: Null, as all he's done is argue with the same 2-3 people.
rayn: I'm too biased currently to read him
VE: Nope not considering him being scum TheTemplar! XD
Fecal: He jumps in whenever he finds a chance to say something really quickly. Not much I can say.
sicklucker: Bad logic in general, sheeping is the basis of the majority of his ideas
GB: Town read, he is focusing too much on one thing at a time but he has the right idea.
Chezinu: Lurker
Damdred: this followed by this is really weird. "I don't know about templar's lynch" generally means he is definitely considering it until very recently. He keeps saying I look better.
ritoky: I didn't even realize he had posted
Alakaslam: Not even the slightest clue how to read him

On November 22 2014 06:34 The_Templar wrote:

claimed mafia, ignored questions, made half of his posts in paint accusing me of being mafia

On November 22 2014 06:37 GlowingBear wrote:
I am driving so I am not drunk I will explain myself later but Slam there were a lot of people with just one vote

On November 22 2014 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah slam lian was LITERALLY claiming mafia.

On November 22 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
why is he scum reading damdred? 2 posts that don't say why at all
why is he scum reading me? 0 actual posts but general queries of what i'm doing this game
why is he scum reading templar? because templar did the same things he's done this game and has given little in the way of reads, also something about a case being backwards which turned out to not even matter

On November 22 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote:

Can you be a bit more specific?

On November 22 2014 08:11 ritoky wrote:


this doesn't seem like a reads post a mafia about to be lynched would make. although i find it weird that templar has sheeped almost word for word a couple things i have said and responded directly to some of my posts yet doesn't know i exist.

On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:


on phone so quotes will be limited

Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going.

You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process.

so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying

On November 22 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:


Not a good day1 lynch
Let vigi deal with him

On November 22 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
Id rather we remove some scum asap. We would make the view so much more clear for are sniper savior. Im not commited to moving off templar yet (mostly because id have to paint it) but lians my other top lynch as ive said already

On November 22 2014 08:21 GlowingBear wrote:


VE isn't vigi and I didn't say he was.
He is most likely not vigi so... I don't know why this matters?
We do have a vigi because it is an open setup

On November 22 2014 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:


Oh ok
Have in mind VE said he was going to shoot me on Hearthstone but he wasn't vigi
I'm not sure if it was hearthstone now. But it was a game where he was town

On November 22 2014 08:22 The_Templar wrote:

No, he'll probably shoot me and fulfill my prophecy

On November 22 2014 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
No I have a broken keyboard so im using on screen keyboard. God ritoky why do you have quoes in quotes on everyone of your posts its making it hard to post shit

On November 22 2014 08:50 The_Templar wrote:
I checked ritoky's filter. It's not really scummy or townie I think. He's been very passive, but not in a particularly bad way.


I don't really want to lynch liancourtyboy for two reasons:
1. I don't generally lynch lurkers or people that are refusing to play the game unless there is no hope for them.
2. I like calling him liancourtyboy

On November 22 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:

VE, followed by either sicklucker or damdred depending on what happens

On November 22 2014 08:57 Hopeless1der wrote:

as opposed to towny lurkers? again, can you expand on the who and why's here?

On November 22 2014 08:58 The_Templar wrote:

that's not enough data

On November 22 2014 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:


Well, town lurkers are most likely to be busy but when they come to the thread they post genuine content.
Mafia lurkers tend to come to the thread, throw random comments, sheep and goes into lurkage again.

On November 22 2014 09:01 Hopeless1der wrote:

also this guy.

On November 22 2014 09:06 Hopeless1der wrote:

Q.
Is liancourt a "lurker"?

On November 22 2014 09:10 Hopeless1der wrote:

hence my vote. I still gravely dislike liancourt.

On November 22 2014 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
I think you should all just sheep me onto hopeless though that would be very cool

On November 22 2014 10:55 Holyflare wrote:
what's the reason broooo

On November 22 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:


nope, no idea who that is

On November 22 2014 11:25 ritoky wrote:


that's cool that you believe that from past experience with him, i don't. you were in the last game when we had a bunch of afks and non-posters ride deep into the game, and you saw the results. sorry if he is your chupazi brother but unless he starts posting stuff i can read he is of no benefit to the town imo.

On November 22 2014 11:28 GlowingBear wrote:
People, I'm really sleepy right now. I ask you to consolidate because I'll sleep very soon

On November 22 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam: hopeless, FF or sick lucker. Who do I vote?

On November 22 2014 12:39 Holyflare wrote:
Sl is probably a very good lynch but i haven't read him well enough to endorse it like I have for hopeless. Just trust me.

On November 22 2014 14:16 liancourt wrote:
Lmao temp hopeless mafia

On November 22 2014 14:34 Fecalfeast wrote:

Haha ever since I googled what hijole means i translate that to 'buttwow' in my head

On November 22 2014 18:23 Holyflare wrote:


If you don't think i was pushing hopeless then you need some help. There is nothing BUT a hopeless lynch tomorrow that I will push. Slam is actually very likely mafia for sheeping vets all game and not caring but then when I say I'm sure, like VERY VERY SURE that hopeless is mafia slam decided it wasn't good to sheep me despite calling me town all game.

GB is scummy for not sheeping me even though he agreed with my hopeless read and then sleeping with his vote on our VET despite me telling him multiple times that his vote was bad and I even explained why a hopeless lynch would be better.

I am also absolutely never lynching lian this game.

On November 22 2014 19:21 Holyflare wrote:
well I like to work in logic and when someone is stopping analysing the game based on flawed logic I'll comment on it

On November 22 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote:


no you fucked up you are voting hopeless, nothing you say is relevant anymore you have lost your opinion in this game until you sheep me correctly

On November 23 2014 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
yeh i'm quite pompous when I'm onto a read but that's because it's entirely worked out from a logical approach

anyway why comment on this and not what I just said about you?

On November 22 2014 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

How convenient....

On November 23 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:


you sheeped your 2 strongest town reads without even reading the game



you openly vet sheeped which is cool even though you didn't have your own reads


then you ditched everything to lynch lurkers because you had no better alternative once I started to draw people off of templar and then completely ignored the hopeless lynch to lynch someone who was just afk and nothing more and hadn't even commented on any of the hopeless stuff at all you just said "i don't see it" even though there is nothing not to see because my case explains everything that he's done that is scummy and there is no "i don't see it" because it IS scummy

On November 23 2014 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I shot at Hopeless. Sup?

On November 23 2014 14:58 Chezinu wrote:

Good eye there! Wonderful shot!

On November 24 2014 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I have some catching up to do guys. I'll let you know how that goes.

On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:

rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam

@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out?

On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner

On November 24 2014 23:58 The_Templar wrote:

Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter.

Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere.
My first problem with him now is his response here.



So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance.

He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit.
Also,

I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else.

Alakaslam:

I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing. (I am sorry. When I tried to be more mainstream Rayn & Lian lost their shyt. So I lost my shyt again.)

That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). (Well yeah, I need to catch up...?) The exception: (and nobody did and he totes went unnoticed and I was like this guy could Deffo be scum, until he comes back and explains a few things and everyone big townreads him because... Ah can someone remind me why Lian is town? Like wtf?)

Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me?


Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler. (I don't claim to understand Chezinu; I have learned much from him though. It is a way to seek the uncommon knowledge.)

His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1.


Nice explanation of voting me... wait (it was a sheep vote, what can I say? XD)

Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this


The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative. (I fear him as both alignments as he is basically a macro of my own play; if I am some strange, half insane jedi, he is EV Yoda.)

I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here. (Curse of Alakaslam ™)


Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?)

On November 25 2014 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam is full of neutral opinions. Instead putting his opinions in the thread, he just comments on things and never build an actual read. This one, in particular, is an example of him doing this. More than this, it's him asking to be convinced. Why is him okay to sheep and asking to be convinced? Why isn't he pointing fingers out and trying to convince people?



Another odd post:




He agreed before to kill Templar because "the strongest townies were pushing him". But now he wants to kill liancourt, who was Templars target. It doesn't make sense.

He was still okay with a liancourt lynch out of nothing. He also blue fished, as you can see here:






Sick lucker has being acting scummy since the beginning. He was kinda lurking too. He was one of the final wagons. Why didn't slam switched to sick lucker? After this, I can't see any of them talking about of each other. And I've brought them into light A LOT of times.

Now, these couple of posts:





This contradiction bothers me. I don't understand how could be reading BOTH as town but then suspecting HF immediately after.

Now, a big, content less post:





Also, this post:




This is a very forced post, considering he totally agreed with me about scummy lurkers and town lurkers. And again, he is not contributing.

What I'm saying is that, from the games I've played with slam, he is always trolly like here, but when town is disorganised, he comes to the thread and put people in the right track. He gives his opinion on who is the best lynch target and who isn't a good target.
THIS IS NOT THE CASE IN THIS GAME. You can't find any significant intervention from him on his filter. He is trolly, and only trolly. He looks like he is trying to hard but trying to look participative. He is mafia.

On November 25 2014 10:03 The_Templar wrote:

Yes, I have given up defending myself. It is a waste of time at this point and I'm cramming several assignments due tomorrow.
"Spreading disdain" lol, this is a game of mafia. Any number of people can create an infinite amount of disdain on their own.

On November 25 2014 10:00 liancourt wrote:
have you given up defending yourself and trying spread disdain throughout the lands to make us paranoid scum?

On November 25 2014 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:


Slam, I don't remember you answering these.
Can you quote me, please?

On November 25 2014 11:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I BET Templar is town.
Lets make a bet.

On November 25 2014 11:40 The_Templar wrote:

I bet I am town too. Do I win?

On November 25 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:
HIJOLE I CAN PLAY
LET'S WIN THIS MONEY WITH THE WAY OF CHUPAZI!

On November 25 2014 11:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Watch all the hardcore townread ppl be all gone, templar flip town, and we are just like ksos lynch. Would make me feel smarter.

but not any more comfortable.

On November 25 2014 12:00 GlowingBear wrote:
He could be scum but I bet he is town because I was given the knowledge of CUCARACHA CHUPACABRA.

On November 25 2014 12:06 GlowingBear wrote:


No chupa cabra, weon malo.

Cabron, tienes que cazar los bandidos!

On November 25 2014 12:20 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm talking to a girl on the phone, I will be slow

You can start fiting me

WHY AM MAFIA???

On November 25 2014 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:


Cabron!

I don't know. Ritoky's push on me looks weird. Meh. I don't really know.

Damdred looks town to me.

But you're scum HIJOLE

On November 25 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:


Yeah. We may want to lynch Chezinu.

I'm okay with a Chezinu lynch.

Slam?

On November 26 2014 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
EBWOP:

Bah, my thoughts:

Lynch slam. I've already gave reasons, but summary: in this game, he isn't having any attempt to solve the game. He is just commenting stuff and being trolley. He is trolly as town also, but when he is town, when he sees that people are going to the wrong direction, he comes to the thread and drops very insightful things. This didn't happen once in the game. He also cluttered the thread a few times, which, for me, is a scum trait. I kept it going on to see where he would go. If he flips scum, check if there was something important going on during those times.
Also, this is WIFOM, but: with his medic image, it looked like he was trying to fish blue.
Also, WIFOM, but I find hard to believe that KillerSOS wagon was pure town. If that is so, slam is mafia

Then, go after sick lucker. The reason ISN'T that he is giving bad reads. The reason is that he noob claimed like three times but he is acting very confident when participating in the game. This is completely scummy. If you are a new player and you assume you're a new player, you would be confused, asking questions, etc., and NOT being certain that someone is scum. He is because he has perfect information.

Then, if those two were mafia, go against Chez. He has done nothing and it's already night2. He was mostly wasting his votes. His vote switch from lian to sick lucker to Templar was EXTREMELY scummy. A lynch on sick lucker could happen and he switched to Templar because...? If sick lucker really flips red, I would lynch Chez without hesitation.

I may have being wrong on ritoky, I don't know. He is null for me at the moment. But he has scummy traits.

Inquire lian for wasting his votes two times in a row.

That's it.

On November 26 2014 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Now? NOW? 1?!?!?
So i wasn't confirmed town to you after N1?
Okay chezinu.... okay..

On November 27 2014 03:10 GlowingBear wrote:


1) Why do you assume I'm town?

2) You can still put us in the right direction if you're town, slam. I'll be waiting for it.

Because, seriously, if chez is really the medic, then it's his fault he will lose the game.

On November 25 2014 12:01 Alakaslam wrote:

thou vampirest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78