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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:45 GMT
#1161
Unofficial vote count:

(3)hopeless1der: Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky
(4)KillerSOS: The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam
(1)Liancourt: KillerSOS
(2)The_Templar: Liancourt, raynpelikoneet
(3)sicklucker: Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred
(1)Damdred: sicklucker

*Votes recorded in filter order from OP, not time posted in thread
**All players have paint-voted
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On November 22 2014 10:55 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 22 2014 11:56 The_Templar wrote:
OK, I'm back
*checks Killer$O$'s filter*


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On November 22 2014 01:40 KillerSOS wrote:
Oh I see I lost a day of my life somewhere, I blame law school.

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Lian because his initial post was a simple picture of "Mafia" and his post quality since has been less than stellar (calling yourself mafia is either super meta or just a great way to kill lynched)

On November 20 2014 19:00 liancourt wrote:
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On November 22 2014 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 21 2014 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:08 The_Templar wrote:
I woke up and read the thread but I'm so confused now. I see your scum reads but I actually do not understand why anyone looks scummy at all for the first three hours. Pretty much entirely neutral reads save maybe one or two in that time period, maybe I should read it again.

Pre-post edit: I read the last few pages in reverse order and it mostly made sense. Hmm. This post is being made using information up to this post.

VE looks suspicious to me. Disclaimer: I am a terrible player

On November 20 2014 17:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare knows that me being sure of my reads doesn't make me scum. He knows this. I can't fathom why he'd call me scummy if he's town. I literally can't.

Because, in some games of mafia, people use slightly different logic and games turn out differently than others! Woah!

On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get Fecal's little "trap" and that's just whatever. I have no defense to that. But Holyflare is saying that me being sure of my reads at this point in the game is scum indicative, and that's just absolutely false. I'm ALWAYS sure of my reads early on, because A) I feel like I have strong early reads and B) I represent strong early reads as both alignments. The reason I do this is because as town when you represent strong reads, it puts your targets under pressure. I put Hopeless under so much pressure that he overreacted, which rito commented on and I think HF mentioned himself. As mafia I do it because that's what I do as town so I have to look like I'm town.

Holyflare knows this, and he knows it doesn't make me mafia. That's the confusing thing to me - he's calling me mafia here based on this alone, when I AGREE WITH HIS ONLY OTHER MAFIA READ.

Here's my prediction. Holyflare is going to convince everyone else to lynch Hopeless and he's going to flip mafia and then Holyflare is going to lead town to a loss. Just like every other game that Holyflare is mafia. But remember this:

I'm voting for no one but Holyflare for the rest of this cycle.

I think this is a terrible mindset! There are 44 hours left in the day and you believe solved part of the game with certainty? Well, I would not give up your vote this soon in the day. It makes you look really weird in my eyes because you're only doing it to make your point that you believe that Holyflare is scummy... which you've already established pretty well. Should he show himself to be towny later on, you'd feel silly.

So are you going to continue pressure on Hopeless or do you think he's made enough mistakes to look mafia until you vote him off?

On November 20 2014 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 17:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not you, I don't 100% commit to my reads that easily

I'm not 100% committed to my read. LMAO

On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for no one but Holyflare for the rest of this cycle.

Which of these is the lie? Also

On November 20 2014 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not even dealing in absolutes.


On November 20 2014 16:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 16:38 Alakaslam wrote:
VE what about hopeless1der

He's probably still mafia. But HF first. Because he's a danger to town. Hopeless is just a danger of being annoyingly defensive. HF will lead you into oblivion.

On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:

Here's my prediction. Holyflare is going to convince everyone else to lynch Hopeless and he's going to flip mafia and then Holyflare is going to lead town to a loss. Just like every other game that Holyflare is mafia. But remember this:

I know that these posts are an hour apart, but I don't think you can say someone is probably mafia but predict they will flip town.

On November 20 2014 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chez drew a picture of me <3

Chez top town FOR LIFE!!!!!!

This is a useless post, but it's OK because you 'contributed' and didn't start out with filler.

On November 20 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Post 100 in this quicktopic proves that Hopeless CAN NOT think I'm mafia here for thinking he's mafia because he's seen me play this game THIS WAY RECENTLY. It's true that the circumstances are a little different, I had replaced into that game and there was a lot of stuff to draw from in the thread - the salient point though is that I found a mafia for what may SEEM to be shaky reasoning IMMEDIATELY and pushed on it hard against one of the louder voices in the thread. IMMEDIATELY.

He knows this is how I play as town, and now he would have you believe that he thinks I'm mafia. Don't believe his lies.

I don't play metagame mafia (because I can't) but I'm interested in how definitive this post sounds.

Anyway I don't have time right now for the rest of you because the Hot6ix cup is on, but I just found it interesting how much VE has dominated the thread while being... inconsistent.


Three things in this post:

1)
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This is the most damning thing. He has read the thread. I don't care if it's backwards or upside down.
Still he makes a case based on not the whole thread!! Why? It doesn't make any sense. He even says "the last pages make more sense", but hey, still a case based on stuff that didn't make sense (earlier)..

It's like making a case without actually making a case -- which is scummy. "Let's see if someone pushes this i can always back down if needed" (notice he doesn't even commit to his case -- no vote, no further pressure on VE).

2) Excuses. "I am bad do not listen to me". Basic stuff. Townies want to be listened. Mafia want to hide. I don't think this needs any explanation.

3) "Yo i don't have time to read other stuff now gotta do X". Don't care what you need to do because noone asked. Again, excuses before even being accused. Also compare this with #1. "I have read the thread but i don't have time to focus on other stuff (than VE) now. Why would he need to focus on other stuff if VE is mafia? He's got a fucking case he just wrote!! If he thinks VE is mafia he (1) doesn't need to focus on anything else and (2) needs to vote. Did he actually think VE is mafia?

On November 22 2014 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On November 22 2014 11:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On November 22 2014 09:52 sicklucker wrote:
I was just cleaning a toilet thinking of how awesome it would be to switch my vote to damdred. Then I saw this awesome defensive post.
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On November 22 2014 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
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On November 21 2014 05:14 Chezinu wrote:
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On November 22 2014 12:36 Damdred wrote:
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On November 22 2014 11:36 ritoky wrote:
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On November 22 2014 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:49 GMT
#1162
Hello?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 22 2014 04:50 GMT
#1163
I'm back at T-minus 11 and I'm very drunk so I'll just type it out:

Emergency Votecount

KillerSOS (4): The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam
hopeless1der (3): Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky
sicklucker (3): Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred
TheTemplar (2): liancourt, raynpelikoneet
liancourt (1): KillerSOS
Damdred (1): sicklucker

rayn and Damdred still need a pic by the end of Night 1
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 04:52 GMT
#1164
hmmmmm do I really want to switch to hopeless?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:53 GMT
#1165
On November 22 2014 13:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
hmmmmm do I really want to switch to hopeless?

yeah, lynch the only other person in the thread at deadline. good plan.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:53 GMT
#1166
/sarcasm
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 22 2014 04:53 GMT
#1167
On November 22 2014 13:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm back at T-minus 11 and I'm very drunk so I'll just type it out:

Emergency Votecount

KillerSOS (4): The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam
hopeless1der (3): Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky
sicklucker (3): Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred
TheTemplar (2): liancourt, raynpelikoneet
liancourt (1): KillerSOS
Damdred (1): sicklucker

rayn and Damdred still need a pic by the end of Night 1

This is the lynching priority order for clarification
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 04:55 GMT
#1168
how is activity at deadline alignment indicative?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:58 GMT
#1169
On November 22 2014 13:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
how is activity at deadline alignment indicative?

usually it wouldnt be...this game I'd like to believe it counts for something. Like I get needing to sleep for the Euro's, but wtf no one else is around?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 22 2014 04:59 GMT
#1170
Votes with the XX:59 timestamp will be counted. Votes with YY:00 will not.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 04:59 GMT
#1171
Killer NEVER returned as promised, chez posted his vote yesterday, so did lian, neither have done a goddamn thing today.

HF says "sheep me I'm god". Rayn says "sheep me I'm god". VE sheeps...
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 04:59 GMT
#1172
I'm sure I'll make HFs scumlist for this but I'm gonna stay put with my vote.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 22 2014 05:00 GMT
#1173
Standby
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 22 2014 05:01 GMT
#1174
FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you...
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 22 2014 05:07 GMT
#1175
[image loading]

You have to send in night actions, if you have any, to BOTH MysteryMeat1 and myself. If you haven't posted a paint pic yet, you have the same amount of time to do that.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 22 2014 05:08 GMT
#1176
Im not reading ff as town anymore hes been major useless. Im not reading him as mafia tho just null I expect town ff to be useless.

On November 21 2014 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kinda like rayn's posts on templar. Can anyone tell me how many games templar has played? If not I'll just check the database.

I'll admit I skimmed over a few of the essays people posted but from what I can tell VE is cool, rayn is cool, HF is ok, cheeze disappeared after realizing his art is inferior to mine so meh/null. Lian is lame but probably just lame town like others have said. Does slam have any meta regarding activity? It seems he has excuses for now but I wish he would post more.

I kinda want to policy lynch licksucker but that's based on an active game so it can wait.

no hard scumreads atm but people I will be looking at:
sicklucker
templar
hopeless
slam
cheeze sandwich
and the lurkers

and yes I am caught up
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 22 2014 05:09 GMT
#1177
fml. going to bed.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 05:13 GMT
#1178
On November 22 2014 14:01 sicklucker wrote:
FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you...

No matter how hard you try, you wont get me to make reads on you based on an active game.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 22 2014 05:16 GMT
#1179
Lmao temp hopeless mafia
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 05:19 GMT
#1180
killer would have been lynched even if I switched to hopeless, right?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
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