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On November 22 2014 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is fucking town for the sole fact he claimed vigilante.
Regardless of if he is in fact a vig or not makes him town because as mafia he would not fakeclaim as the real possible vigi would possibly shoot him only for the claim.
That's like the easiest read in this game. So everyone stop calling him mafia already ffs.
who is calling VE mafia? i think the only person in the game who is calling VE mafia is GB, and that guy is like 95% mafia
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On November 22 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 19:08 ritoky wrote:On November 22 2014 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is fucking town for the sole fact he claimed vigilante.
Regardless of if he is in fact a vig or not makes him town because as mafia he would not fakeclaim as the real possible vigi would possibly shoot him only for the claim.
That's like the easiest read in this game. So everyone stop calling him mafia already ffs. who is calling VE mafia? i think the only person in the game who is calling VE mafia is GB, and that guy is like 95% mafia Holyflare just said "no townread on ve any more, in fact he even looks bad". ...when ve is the most obvious town in this game.
VE isn't the most obvious town in the game, i am town jesus.
and there's a difference between not town reading someone and calling them mafia. stop mischaracterizing a read
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On November 22 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It doesn't matter if it wifom or not because when you do that as mafia you cannot know if people take that as a joke or not. Same as claiming scum. Scum usually don't joke about claiming scum because if they do it can hit you back into the face. There is no point to do that!!!
Like idgaf how dumb you think that is but it's still true. no your logic is bad as town you cannot know whether people take it as a joke or not and you might get shot (why would a town want to get shot??) as mafia you cannot know whether people take it as a joke or not and you might get shot (why would a mafia want to get shot??) the more likely explanation being that as either alignment nobody takes it seriously and there is a 0% chance that he'd get shot for it
can you stop arguing about stupid wifom policy crap?
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On November 22 2014 19:19 Holyflare wrote:
why? not like i have limited time today
because it's just you calling rayn bad for the reason he has a read, which pisses him off and rather than actually care about content he just cares about being pissed at you and nothing comes of it other than a pissing match.
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so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up.
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On November 23 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:
so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up. He made a good case on SL
where is it? all i see is some half assed post about how he backed down on his reads under pressure; the same sort of crap that caused you idiots to lynch a blue.
i pretty much want to lynch GB over everyone right now though. like...by a mile.
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On November 23 2014 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Why do you want to lynch only GB and by a mile?
I do take offense at that I brought legitamate things forward rit.
Also templar why you defend me in one post and berate me in another ;;
not saying you haven't, am saying i don't remember them, most of what i remember from you is small questions with 0 follow-up from early on and then a bunch of defense. also your filter is shorter than mine, which is bizarre.
he had a scum read on someone, detailed the length to which he agreed with the scum read on one of his top town reads (or at least someone he was talking to like he read as town in HF) and for no good reason decided to vote on a null read. when asked to justify he acts like it never happened and he didn't just lynch a blue. then he pursues the same line of thought and same mindset/reads that just led him to lynch a blue. and suddenly he wants to lynch hopeless again???? you just had the opportunity and decided to pass up on it for no fucking reason at all other than "lol dis gai afk" he needs to die IMMEDIATELY.
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On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:
1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.
By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.
Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention.
This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation.
Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing.
Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town.
"why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum.
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On November 23 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 07:37 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:
so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up. He made a good case on SL where is it? all i see is some half assed post about how he backed down on his reads under pressure; the same sort of crap that caused you idiots to lynch a blue. i pretty much want to lynch GB over everyone right now though. like...by a mile. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471226-vi-titanic-mini-mafia-the-return-of-mspaint?page=58#1141
i don't think this is a good case at all. flimsy at best.
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On November 23 2014 10:43 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 07:37 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:
so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up. He made a good case on SL where is it? all i see is some half assed post about how he backed down on his reads under pressure; the same sort of crap that caused you idiots to lynch a blue. i pretty much want to lynch GB over everyone right now though. like...by a mile. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471226-vi-titanic-mini-mafia-the-return-of-mspaint?page=58#1141 i don't think this is a good case at all. flimsy at best. What do you dislike about it?
it completely neglects his most recent reads post; he just says this read sounds made up in one sentence, and then moves on. also he claims that SL backs down or folds under pressure, which to me would mean damdred should apply pressure. he subsequently doesn't apply that much pressure imo. i also don't particularly have a town read on the guy making the case, and a lot of people i have scum reads on don't like SL. so there's that.
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On November 23 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:
1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.
By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.
Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention. This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation. Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing. Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town. "why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum. Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play. You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit. I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish. This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well. But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it?
VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so...
Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this:
On November 22 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I've even convinced lock-mafia Holyflare that I'm town Jesus Christ.
then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective.
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On November 23 2014 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:
1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.
By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.
Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention. This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation. Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing. Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town. "why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum. Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play. You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit. I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish. This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well. But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it? VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so... Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this: On November 22 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I've even convinced lock-mafia Holyflare that I'm town Jesus Christ. then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective. Uhm... I've pointed it out before. VE isn't committed to the game either. The problem here is that you're assuming I knew killer was town; even more, you're assuming I knew he was blue. Even scum couldn't know that. You're also admitting hopeless is scum instead of bad town. You agree with me that VE looks scummy but you townread by simply having unflipped association and not considering he could have bussed IF hopeless is really scum.
??? I voted to lynch hopeless of course i think he is mafia???
and there's a diff btwn pointing it out and forcing the issue. if you really were in deep on that read you would force the issue. and i think you're mafia so of course i think you knew killer was town and hopeless was mafia?
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On November 23 2014 11:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 11:21 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:
1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.
By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.
Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention. This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation. Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing. Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town. "why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum. Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play. You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit. I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish. This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well. But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it? VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so... Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this: On November 22 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I've even convinced lock-mafia Holyflare that I'm town Jesus Christ. then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective. Uhm... I've pointed it out before. VE isn't committed to the game either. The problem here is that you're assuming I knew killer was town; even more, you're assuming I knew he was blue. Even scum couldn't know that. You're also admitting hopeless is scum instead of bad town. You agree with me that VE looks scummy but you townread by simply having unflipped association and not considering he could have bussed IF hopeless is really scum. ??? I voted to lynch hopeless of course i think he is mafia??? and there's a diff btwn pointing it out and forcing the issue. if you really were in deep on that read you would force the issue. and i think you're mafia so of course i think you knew killer was town and hopeless was mafia? Question: when did you really decided I was mafia?
i have a 4 page filter, it's not that hard to comb through. but i guess i can do your own work for you: like you're not willing to find it yourself or push your VE read? what are you willing to do?
On November 22 2014 18:52 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are town hf i suggest you try to work with me and ve instead of what you've done.
I have ~6 hours to only focus on this after i've eaten and got a laptop so let's find mafia then okay?
Not call each other dumb, scumhunt.
Deal? did you see the part where VE voted on hopeless? appears you're the one on a different page. hopeless is mafia. i agree with HF on GB, like he agreed with the read; i mean even went into detail on the level to which he agreed and still refused to vote on hopeless...because??????????? because the guy was afk and not playing the game????? like what the fuck. i am even tempted to lynch GB in front of hopeless for that shit.
man that was tough to find!!!! owait
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On November 23 2014 12:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 12:20 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 11:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 11:21 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:
1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.
By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.
Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention. This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation. Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing. Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town. "why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum. Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play. You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit. I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish. This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well. But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it? VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so... Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this: On November 22 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I've even convinced lock-mafia Holyflare that I'm town Jesus Christ. then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective. Uhm... I've pointed it out before. VE isn't committed to the game either. The problem here is that you're assuming I knew killer was town; even more, you're assuming I knew he was blue. Even scum couldn't know that. You're also admitting hopeless is scum instead of bad town. You agree with me that VE looks scummy but you townread by simply having unflipped association and not considering he could have bussed IF hopeless is really scum. ??? I voted to lynch hopeless of course i think he is mafia??? and there's a diff btwn pointing it out and forcing the issue. if you really were in deep on that read you would force the issue. and i think you're mafia so of course i think you knew killer was town and hopeless was mafia? Question: when did you really decided I was mafia? i have a 4 page filter, it's not that hard to comb through. but i guess i can do your own work for you: like you're not willing to find it yourself or push your VE read? what are you willing to do? On November 22 2014 18:52 ritoky wrote:On November 22 2014 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are town hf i suggest you try to work with me and ve instead of what you've done.
I have ~6 hours to only focus on this after i've eaten and got a laptop so let's find mafia then okay?
Not call each other dumb, scumhunt.
Deal? did you see the part where VE voted on hopeless? appears you're the one on a different page. hopeless is mafia. i agree with HF on GB, like he agreed with the read; i mean even went into detail on the level to which he agreed and still refused to vote on hopeless...because??????????? because the guy was afk and not playing the game????? like what the fuck. i am even tempted to lynch GB in front of hopeless for that shit. man that was tough to find!!!! owait Lol ritoky. You could've think I was scummy before the lynch but still not mention it in the thread. Your stance against me, and this post of yours in particular feels so forced. I'm re reading the game to have a better grasp of my reads, although I think I may die tonight without been able to post them. This is what I'm saying: you're reading me as scum ONLY because killer was town. You repeatedly say that we lynched our blue, implying people knew that. This is forced. You have a scum read on hopeless. I don't wish to vote him day1. Therefore, I'm his partner. Logic fails. Who else is scum, ritoky? I'm partner with hopeless. Two more guys.
you can't read me if you think that's forced.
reading you as scum has less to do with killer being town and EVERYTHING to do with you REFUSING TO VOTE ON YOUR SCUM READ, SWITCHING TO A NULL READ WHO IS AFK, AND INSTEAD VOTE WITH YOUR SCUM READ. can't make this any more clear to you. and saying he is blue is because he is blue, would you rather i say "you lynched a townie who happened to flip blue"? cuz i can if that tickles your fancy better.
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On November 23 2014 13:10 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 07:37 ritoky wrote:On November 23 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:
so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up. He made a good case on SL where is it? all i see is some half assed post about how he backed down on his reads under pressure; the same sort of crap that caused you idiots to lynch a blue. i pretty much want to lynch GB over everyone right now though. like...by a mile. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471226-vi-titanic-mini-mafia-the-return-of-mspaint?page=58#1141 i don't think this is a good case at all. flimsy at best. You were also having a scumread on sick lucker earlier, if I'm correct. What changed?
i did? where?
i just looked for it and found my "i don't understand what this guy is doing, but he reads me town" post, and then a post where i am summarizing someone else's read on him; don't see it.
and what changed is you did the single most scummy shit in the entire game and now i want to lynch you beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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so why isn't everyone in the game voting on GB?
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On November 24 2014 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:00 ritoky wrote:
so why isn't everyone in the game voting on GB? Because I'm not scum. You would realise that if you actually cared for the game.
why are you not mafia? outside of the very clear scum case i made against you, your "re-evaluated" reads seem shallow for someone who professes to have re-read the entire thread; and on top of that (meta read from previous experience) the last time i played against you as mafia you specifically targeted all the mass posters in the game.
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@lian can you explain the chez mafia read? cuz i str8 up don't even know what that guy is doing.
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On November 24 2014 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Fuck this, I was going to write this after I have reevaluated day2 interactions but people don't want to play. I'll write it now and do the things I should be doing.
Alright, VE and Rayn can't be both mafia. If they fake claimed together mafia would lose 2 players. Not a winning strategy.
There is noone pushing them so we can assume, for now, that the claims were true.
There -are a lot people that aren't insightful in this game. I'm starting to fear the most active players are all town fighting each other.
I also believe that mafia would push me for the "scummy" vote. HF is dead and Rayn is probably town, so it leaves ritoky as possible mafia. Specially if you realise that he blames me for killing SOS but he didn't try to convince others that hopeless was a better lynch.
Mafia was probably split into the wagons too. Two if the three main wagons flipped green, which means they were probat out of danger in a way they didn't have to consolidate.
You can say whatever you want about Chezinu, but he wasted his vote on day 1, and so did lian.
I will GUESS the scum team. It means I don't have strong reasons. It's a guess.
Slam, ritoky, lian, sick lucker
This is my list of preference, then. Slam and sick lucker first, ritoky at the very end.
I may not lynch ritoky today and if you give me another opinion (Chezinu, FF), I'm open to it, since I'm hating thee both players too.
Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today.
Damdred is townish because he had the same read as I on VE on early game and he sounds like town damdred (gut feeling)
Rayn and VE probably town for claiming.
I don't care for FF's roleblock claim.
read on VE and rayn, obvious read is obvious
whining about people not playing
you're wrong about me and have yet to state a reason i am scum
wifom about vote splitting
people wasting their votes, followed by no pressure
scum team with no provided reasons
i didn't provide reasons, but let me create a backdoor cuz i know i am wrong on ritoky cuz i have perfect information
first actual read of the post
airball read on damdred
is that enough of an explanation of how they are shallow?
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On November 24 2014 08:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:24 ritoky wrote:On November 24 2014 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Fuck this, I was going to write this after I have reevaluated day2 interactions but people don't want to play. I'll write it now and do the things I should be doing.
Alright, VE and Rayn can't be both mafia. If they fake claimed together mafia would lose 2 players. Not a winning strategy.
There is noone pushing them so we can assume, for now, that the claims were true.
There -are a lot people that aren't insightful in this game. I'm starting to fear the most active players are all town fighting each other.
I also believe that mafia would push me for the "scummy" vote. HF is dead and Rayn is probably town, so it leaves ritoky as possible mafia. Specially if you realise that he blames me for killing SOS but he didn't try to convince others that hopeless was a better lynch.
Mafia was probably split into the wagons too. Two if the three main wagons flipped green, which means they were probat out of danger in a way they didn't have to consolidate.
You can say whatever you want about Chezinu, but he wasted his vote on day 1, and so did lian.
I will GUESS the scum team. It means I don't have strong reasons. It's a guess.
Slam, ritoky, lian, sick lucker
This is my list of preference, then. Slam and sick lucker first, ritoky at the very end.
I may not lynch ritoky today and if you give me another opinion (Chezinu, FF), I'm open to it, since I'm hating thee both players too.
Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today.
Damdred is townish because he had the same read as I on VE on early game and he sounds like town damdred (gut feeling)
Rayn and VE probably town for claiming.
I don't care for FF's roleblock claim. read on VE and rayn, obvious read is obvious whining about people not playing you're wrong about me and have yet to state a reason i am scum wifom about vote splitting people wasting their votes, followed by no pressure scum team with no provided reasons i didn't provide reasons, but let me create a backdoor cuz i know i am wrong on ritoky cuz i have perfect information first actual read of the post airball read on damdred is that enough of an explanation of how they are shallow? WIFOM? Do you sincerely believe mafia consolidated in just one wagon?
probably not, but i don't profess to know scum motivations; why do you?
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