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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 23:20 GMT
#1564
don't use just pure vote logic im doing it a bit myself aswell, it should be used to compliment other reasons.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 23:21 GMT
#1566
Also superbia i just don't think you considerd my case on kush at all. It wasn't just because he was a lurker there was a distinct change in mood from pre game to during the game. No town would play like that. I'm sorry you couldn't make that connection yourself.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 23:33 GMT
#1572
On November 08 2014 08:26 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 08:21 Breshke wrote:
Also superbia i just don't think you considerd my case on kush at all. It wasn't just because he was a lurker there was a distinct change in mood from pre game to during the game. No town would play like that. I'm sorry you couldn't make that connection yourself.


I didn't think your case was good, pre-game is pretty OGI and doesn't have to mean anything. I'm a bit sour nobody listened, but at least we hit. Obi (Kelsier) is still the lynch for tomorrow as it stands.


I don't think it is OGI its like using meta reads.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#1581
On November 08 2014 08:39 Serejai wrote:
Breshke and sicklucker scum, bussed kush to save sicklucker since kush was inactive anyway.

I DID IT GUYS. I SOLVED THE GAME.


Do you actually read the game KSC would have been lynched not sicklucker. Can you actually think about what you write before you post it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 00:02 GMT
#1590
On November 08 2014 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you guys read what i write and comment on it?
Comments?


I agree on sentinel although i don't think it is superbia aswell. Look at the final D1 vote does two mafia stack on another. This is my only reason right now though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 00:29 GMT
#1604
On November 08 2014 09:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holy shit how did you guys lynch the cop day 1?


I'm dumb
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 00:49 GMT
#1609
Obi im around so if you see anything you want to point out as you read that would be cool.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 02:41 GMT
#1653
Rayn when you are here again i want you to give me your opinion something,

Let me preface this with the fact that i agree that sentinel is most likely mafia and i will be voting him today. I think it is highly likely that kush bussed considering what we know about his scum meta.

Vote Count

Serejai (1): Elvis!, batsnacks
[UoN]Sentinel (2): Superbia, kushm4sta
LightningStrike (4): Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel, FecalFeast
Immaterial (4): Grackaroni, Serejai, LightningStrike, KSC


Not Voting (1): Cricketer12

Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in 0m 0s at 08:30 ACST (+10:30).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


Look at the final day one vote. If you are to believe that superbia and sentinel and kush is the xcum team you need to think that 2 mafia voted together on their partner for day 1. Why would they have done this when, if you are town, both wagons were on town because you are immaterial. Yeah voting on a town looks bad once the vote flips but why would they allighn themselves so closely. I think if sentinel flips mafia superbia is most likely town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 10:04 GMT
#1656
For when you wake up obi is your town read on rayn based off sstuff you have read from the person he replaced or his own play?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 21:41 GMT
#1737
I woke up late but theres a weird interaction between ff and sentinel if they are a scum team ill find it and show you rayn. I find it really hard to put sentinel into a team because the only person i can see him lining up with is immaterial but since rayn replaced him it doesn't seems like less of a world. I still think sentinel is scum though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 21:51 GMT
#1741
Okay the interaction wasn't as big a deal as i thought it was

Fecal makes this case

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.


Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

Show nested quote +
I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Show nested quote +
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

Then this post.
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
Show nested quote +
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.



Kush wants to vote on sentinel at EoD1

On November 05 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 05:55 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
basically due to the closed nature of this game, LS is now a terrible lynch because his alignment can be confirmed at lylo.


i'd be down for a sentinal lynch as well.



can u link me or summarize a case sir?


He gets linked ff's case and after just 3 minutes (which he got inged out for because there was no way he read it all.)

On November 05 2014 06:00 kushm4sta wrote:
good case. scummy misrep on elvis.

##unvote
##vote sentinal



So kush and ff would have basically been trying to bury their partner at EoD1 and gotten him lynched.

I feel like im making too many associative reads though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 22:16 GMT
#1760
Who was roleblocked?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 22:33 GMT
#1769
On November 09 2014 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 07:15 Serejai wrote:
Caught one of the scum. Will post about it on Monday morning, or sooner if I can get hold of a laptop. Read some of my very last posts from D1 and people who commented on them. Want to see if anyone else notices before I drop a name.


Imma? Im told the replacement can be a really good mafia player so im not ruling it out and theres 0 other mafia teams in my mind that dont involve one of the new players. But hes been such a good town and making insanely accurate observations. I think if we mis today we can look at other ideas like this but I think sent or ff have to be lynched today.

I dont like how sent came on just now, its like he came on last minute to put in his night actions then left again. I think lynching ff could make more sense because he fits into a few more circles in my mind.


What circles does ff fit into?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#1801
Sl you shouldn't get your hopes up from what ive seen id be suprised if the deadline is moved up
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 08 2014 23:51 GMT
#1803
##Vote: Sentinel
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 03:48 GMT
#1805
sup fecal
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 03:57 GMT
#1807
not much just studying got exams in a couple days

Who is your top two scum and top two town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 04:09 GMT
#1809
serejai/bats- Town

Sent/one of the new guys - Mafia

Other than sent im not actually sure I havn't thought about it that much and the only reason it isn't you or superbia is because I don't think you guys are with sentinel. Also I give you a certain amount of town cred because without

On November 08 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
would shennannie onto kush if others are here


I don't think kush would have been lynched.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 05:29 GMT
#1813
On November 09 2014 14:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 13:09 Breshke wrote:
serejai/bats- Town

Sent/one of the new guys - Mafia

Other than sent im not actually sure I havn't thought about it that much and the only reason it isn't you or superbia is because I don't think you guys are with sentinel. Also I give you a certain amount of town cred because without

On November 08 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
would shennannie onto kush if others are here


I don't think kush would have been lynched.


How is it that you came to the conclusion that Sentinel and either me/rayn are mafia?

Both of us want to kill him, so this means that you think one of us is bussing him because unicorns.


I don't think it is sentinel and fecal/superbia because of reasons ive already said and im reading everyone else town in this order of decreasing townness (serejai bats Elvis Sl0. If sentinel isn't scum then ill actually need to look back at stuff for fecal and superbia because they could easily be a scum team. I have no idea about you and rayn because rayn has started really strong and my gut read on you obi is that you are town because i think you would be trying harder if you got replaced in as mafia but you've probs replaced in as town and considering we just lynched mafia and there was a doc save you dont feel like you need to. I also find it hard to read your allighnments by trying to take into account what i thought of the people you replaced because that feels wrong. So i only have you and raynthere because of no reasons. I could easily be wrong on someone especially fecal and superbia.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2014 06:30 GMT
#1816
Nah im living in a world where sentinel is mafia because he isn't even trying anymore. I don't see fecal or superbia as being his partner for stuff ive already stated. I will admit the fecal stuff is fairly week but the superbia stuff is a bit stronger.

This then leaves me with serejai, elvis, obi, sl, and rayn.

Serejai basically confirmed town i don't think they waste their roleblock two nights in a row on a partner especially when they seemingly tried to kill someone last night who was a high priority medic save.

Elvis and Sl i have been reading town with sl as a weaker read than Elvis.

So that leaves me with you and rayn, yes i think you have both come off townie but i think both of you have the ability to do that as mafia so if im wrong on anyone which i obviously have to be i think it could easily be you or rayn. This is just a gut feeling though so im not puting that much weight into that read which is the impression i thought i gave after i said it.
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