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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 23 2014 03:44 GMT
#11
Hrmm...Tempting...

Gotta see how my current game schedule is going to pan out. I'll be watching.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 00:10 GMT
#31
If this starts soon, I can /in I think.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:30 GMT
#40
/out

Worried about getting overloaded. Maybe another time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:35 GMT
#42
Ugh I really wanna play this though.

Kita why did I even.
WHY DID I EVEN.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:38 GMT
#44
Man fuck you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:40 GMT
#45
/in

I have to play now.

But it's not because I like you or anything.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:42 GMT
#47
Yeah, well.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 01:45 GMT
#49
Sure, I can do replacement no probs.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 02:17 GMT
#53
Geript should probably take it, imo.

Like I want the slot but I don't know if I can do the game justice due to me playing other games.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 04:32 GMT
#62
Lmao I just remembered that geript is cohosting.

THAT MEANS THE SLOT IS MINE BOW BEFORE ME.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 28 2014 04:45 GMT
#64
no whod have thought it
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 29 2014 03:16 GMT
#95
/confirm

I did it in PM but a bunch of other people did it here so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 29 2014 04:59 GMT
#98
On October 29 2014 10:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Who are these guys that I never saw before but seems to have experience in mafia?


Lots of them are video mafia guys. DailyMafia usually has a bunch of players that come here to play.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 01:59 GMT
#129
POST.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 02:03 GMT
#133
On October 31 2014 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
how can you hate the best day to lynch mafia ever?


Easily; if he's mafia.

Qed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 03:44 GMT
#237
On October 31 2014 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
the absolute most boring fluffy start of day 1 ever.
Ever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:18 GMT
#333
Alternatively you can try talking to me instead of dictating how to waste our analyzer thingie within the first two hours of the game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:20 GMT
#339
On October 31 2014 14:19 Holyflare wrote:
misder is there anything you hoped to achieve by asking if gb's vote was in the right format? and why obi when he's in a similar 0 content boat as like 4 other ppl


Tempted to throw you into my townpile for this.

I'll stick with a town lean for now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:22 GMT
#343
On October 31 2014 14:20 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 14:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alternatively you can try talking to me instead of dictating how to waste our analyzer thingie within the first two hours of the game.

What kind of target do you think would be better for the cat?

And given what we know, if we don't use it in the next ~22 hours, we would have wasted one cycle of the cat. There are no charges, the cat says it does the analysis once it hits majority, and it refreshes every 23 hours.


Lmao idk. Give it some time and we can use it on someone we find scummy.

No need to rush it if we have 22 hours.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:37 GMT
#358
Good to know that HF and Oats are town this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:44 GMT
#366
On October 31 2014 14:40 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:
On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment.

I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way.

Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm

If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town?

Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups.


Town Win Condition: You win when all anti-town threats have been eliminated.
Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to the mafia team are eliminated or nothing prevents this from happening.
Third Party Win Condition: ???


read op before playing, come back and post content, kk?

The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question.

Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia.


Yes and/or no.

There's no way for you to know unless you're third party and third party isn't going to talk about their wincon. It's pointless speculation so stop dragging it out.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:48 GMT
#376
On October 31 2014 14:41 liancourt wrote:
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On October 31 2014 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Good to know that HF and Oats are town this game.


how'd you come to this conclusion?


Holyflare: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=17#334

His follow up posts on Misder were pretty good too. The way he's phrasing things and the way he's analyzing stuff looks pretty town imo.

I just found myself agreeing with what the two of them were saying about Misder and I liked the points they were bringing up. Oats also had a really good post based on keeping discussion off of the stupid cat thing and onto important things.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:54 GMT
#385
On October 31 2014 14:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Yo Obi Holyflare. I asked cause I don't know. For instance the term "Third Party" could in TL Mafia always imply that they win to the exclusion of town and mafia. I didnt know.

But being stuck up just makes you guys seem well... Stuck up. Just cause I'm ignorant of something doesn't mean you have to give me shit. Hell I wasn't even asking you guys at first.Originally I was asking the Hosts.

Also saying it was "all I have been talking about when I had been talking to GB just before that just seems to lack thread awareness.


Sorry, not trying to offend. Just trying to keep us on track, is all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 31 2014 05:57 GMT
#387
On October 31 2014 14:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:
On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment.

I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way.

Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm

If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town?

Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups.

3p either wins alone or with town or with scum.

So yeahhhhhhhhh basically nothing.

I think its way more likely that this helps us rather than hurting us, more info good for town cause of the info imbalance between town and mafia.
IGNORE 3P.

Interesting that you brought up 3p though, why do you think this game has a 3p?

Thank you Oats. See this is the answer I was looking for HF and Obi plz take note.

Oh and because the Cat specifically mentioned finding and killing the horde (im paraphasing) And the horde isn't alignment indicative of mafia or town.



Yeah, if 3p doesn't actually have a wincon like ESPN from Fantasy Football.

This is what I was afraid of happening. We don't know anything about 3p, so speculating on it is a waste of time since we can't know and we can't hope to know without having full knowledge of all available role PMs in front of us.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 02:23 GMT
#631
I'm here. Give me a little bit to reread and I'll have stuff to talk about.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#634
Someone explain to me why a bunch of people decided to waste our analyze thingie on jb pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 03:41 GMT
#643
Why is Jay a coinflip?

I don't understand.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 04:20 GMT
#652
On November 01 2014 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is Jay a coinflip?

I don't understand.

I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party


Fair enough, I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 05:10 GMT
#659
The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new."

When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc)

You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange.

On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post

dont think he's posted anything since then.


Where do you stand on Circumstance?

Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me.

##Analyze: JB

I kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 05:46 GMT
#665
On November 01 2014 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote : Blazinghand


Tempted to roll with this tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 06:01 GMT
#670
Tempted to rescind my townread on jb for his bad jokes.

Is it worth it? Probably.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 06:02 GMT
#671
On November 01 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway going to get absolutely wasted and dress like a slutty witch cya


Also if this guy doesn't give us pics we lynch him.

Good night.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 17:59 GMT
#802
##vote holyflare
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:18 GMT
#807
On November 02 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
salty about being on a list?


Read my filter.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:26 GMT
#818
On November 02 2014 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
salty about being on a list?


Read my filter.


it's useless, anything new? your only content is how lian pointed out that circumstance was like him being new which didn't make any sense


I was cracking a joke. Cripes dude.

If you're really going to point out content, go back and reread the stuff that I've said because it looks like you've misread the intent of my posts.

We're going to do this dance every game, aren't we?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:27 GMT
#820
I'm probably going to end up voting BH when all is said and done.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:30 GMT
#826
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


Do you think that only scum gets that role?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:34 GMT
#837
On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


Do you think that only scum gets that role?

No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell.


I just don't see it I guess? I can see what you're saying, but I'm still not going to vote him for it because I don't find that fact compelling enough to pursue.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:42 GMT
#847
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:49 GMT
#850
On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.


you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway
if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them??


I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset.

I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 18:57 GMT
#855
On November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.


you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway
if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them??


I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset.

I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.


You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying?


I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 19:03 GMT
#864
On November 02 2014 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.


you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway
if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them??


I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset.

I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.


You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying?


I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie.


But do you understand why a town would lie about having notes instead of just saying he was answering a question?
He slipped. He wasn't invested into finding scum. That's all.


I don't know how you jump from "lying about notes" to "not scumhunting."

That is a fairly remarkable leap.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 01 2014 19:12 GMT
#872
On November 02 2014 04:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.


you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway
if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them??


I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset.

I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.


You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying?


I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie.


But do you understand why a town would lie about having notes instead of just saying he was answering a question?
He slipped. He wasn't invested into finding scum. That's all.


I don't know how you jump from "lying about notes" to "not scumhunting."

That is a fairly remarkable leap.


...

2 separate things.

1) he is lying, BOOM
2) he post an analysis why someone is town but couldn't analyse why someone is scum, so... Not scum hunting BOOM


1) It doesn't matter because it's not indicative.
2) So how does that make him scum in this circumstance? I don't understand how having a strong townread makes him scum if he doesn't have a strong scumread.

I just don't see the point you're trying to make.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 00:52 GMT
#1037
Could you idiots stop telling people that I'm mafia?

I don't want to have to go on another posting spree that ends with me posting 22 pages of shit and getting pissed off at everyone.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 01:03 GMT
#1041
Ugh HF voted me again.

This game is going to be really fucking annoying.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 01:17 GMT
#1043
"Oh no I am about to get tunneled for 72 hours."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 02:28 GMT
#1061
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
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On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


Hold up.

Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?

Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 02:42 GMT
#1064
I'm actually not sure if I misread ritoky's post. I think I might be going insane.

I will be back in some time to see if I've completely lost my mind or not.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 02:49 GMT
#1067
On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:
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On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


Hold up.

Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?

Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?


Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.

As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.


I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad.

And it was.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 02:55 GMT
#1069
On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:
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On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


Hold up.

Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?

Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?


Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.

As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.


I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad.

And it was.


I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me".

And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?


You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1.

I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia."

It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 03:15 GMT
#1071
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.

Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."

So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 03:16 GMT
#1072
I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:02 GMT
#1087
On November 02 2014 13:49 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.

Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."

So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.

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On November 02 2014 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.


You have given absolutely no reason why they are bad in the slightest so don't act like you have


Yes I have. You even quoted them.

@JB: I'm not sure. Still BH probably, just for calling me mafia for generic stuff and not backing it up well enough I guess. I haven't really looked at his posts in depth yet, so I'll probably do that in the morning or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:40 GMT
#1096
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:44 GMT
#1098
(For what it's worth, he shouldn't have gotten lynched that game. Host mistakes and whatnot.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:45 GMT
#1099
On November 02 2014 14:43 Holyflare wrote:
You literally are giving 0 reasons why lying about notes is a towny thing and instead only giving an example that a cop did it one time when presumably he had a red check which is impossible here.

Nothing you said makes any sense on why you gave that read when a guy had lied at that present time and extended time to quantify his lie.


I never gave a read on him. I said the case was bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:47 GMT
#1102
I don't feel like that's the only explanation. I'm telling you that what you're focusing on is unimportant.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:49 GMT
#1104
It's not important because I don't think that mafia motivation is the only reason for him not to post his notes.

I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:55 GMT
#1109
On November 02 2014 14:51 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 02 2014 14:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's not important because I don't think that mafia motivation is the only reason for him not to post his notes.

I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.


You can't come up with any reason whatsoever why it's town motivated. At all. There's no reason to call it bad unless you have a distinct reason why he witheld his notes was towny. You don't. You're scum.


I'm not saying it's town motivated. I'm saying it's not relevant. I don't know how you can discern the motivation behind something that convoluted, and I feel like drawing any kind of conclusion from it is somewhat far fetched.

I don't see how batsnacks not posting his notes and being a cop with a red check is so different from this game, either.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:55 GMT
#1110
Christ I knew this game was going to be annoying. I'm already bored of this conversation.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:01 GMT
#1113
On November 02 2014 14:59 liancourt wrote:
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On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?


I'm sorry.

What are you doing?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:09 GMT
#1116
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:11 GMT
#1117
On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote:
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.


I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:25 GMT
#1121
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:26 GMT
#1122
On November 02 2014 15:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote:
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.


I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.


No I'm pushing something multiple people agreed with and wondering why you were the only person to not agree with it and every response you leave just leaves more holes and question marks.

Like there's quite literally no reason to say damd is a bad lynch unless you have a reason to not lynch him and his posts were town motivated. As it stands you have given NO town motivation to lie about reads and there is only scum motivation so you calling it bad is totally unjustified, scummy because it looks like tmi and worse now that you have "explained".

We don't have to talk about it more because it's quite evident that you're mafia. Feel free to bring up a new useful subject to talk about though instead of complaining how boring this is and asking me to drop talking about it.


Except your case was bad and I'm allergic to lynching people for bad reasons unless I'm mafia.

So the second you realize your case is bad, you can unvote me and focus on scum.

Good day.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:30 GMT
#1127
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:32 GMT
#1129
On November 02 2014 15:31 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.


why is bh a scum read? and i'll keep this up cos i can talk to you directly.


Read my filter.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:41 GMT
#1132
On November 02 2014 15:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.


you're scum for the second part of that post


You've also called me scum for not having enough "townie indicative thoughts" and "shitposting," while not elaborating on what either of those things meant. Color me unimpressed when you continue to call me scum for bad reasons for the second game in a row.

If you want to elaborate and maybe start some kind of dialogue, then sure I'll talk to you.

This is FF1 all over again and nobody has bothered to try to learn from any of it. You're all still hysterically bad at reading me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:43 GMT
#1135
On November 02 2014 15:43 Holyflare wrote:
You mean ff1 where i rolled scum and we could have won if you listened to me? Ok


I solved the game on day 2. Don't get snippy with me.

@Lian: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=55#1087
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:47 GMT
#1137
On November 02 2014 15:44 Holyflare wrote:
You cop checked someone who was already mafia so yeh if you say so. You're the one getting snippy saying we're bad.


Ye of no context.

I really wanted to play some video games but I had to stay here and defend myself. How annoying.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:52 GMT
#1140
On November 02 2014 15:50 Holyflare wrote:
Your other developing scum read is lian who you already give an out to by saying "if he continues" to pressure you he's probably mafia. I don't even need to explain why that is terrible.


This is not why.

My issue is that lian is jumping on me when it's really convenient and forcing me into a lynch that I don't particularly support.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:54 GMT
#1142
I don't like the fact that you're writing my BH read off as if it doesn't exist.

He's calling me scum for bullshit nonreasons and I think that's scummy.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:56 GMT
#1144
On November 02 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote:
I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads.


He didn't look like scum. What part of this are you not getting?

Stop saying that I'm not doing anything. I'm doing stuff right now and you're just blowing me off. It's infuriating.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 07:15 GMT
#1152
On November 02 2014 16:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote:
I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads.


He didn't look like scum. What part of this are you not getting?

Stop saying that I'm not doing anything. I'm doing stuff right now and you're just blowing me off. It's infuriating.


If damd hadn't have extended this day you would have gone into n1 with a defence of someone out of the blue that looked scummy (your reasons for the defence make no sense and you even retroactively defended him by saying he posted his reads that's why he wasn't scummy even though we're talking about before he posted them) and having a scum read on bh which is factually incorrect and is contained in like 3 lines of 1 post. Oh also town reads on me and oats for really silly reasons.

You think that's enough? 0 scum reads (you didn't even read bh's filter) and 2 mediocre town reads based on 1 post a few hours into the game??? Really?


All you've been doing is calling all of my reads bullshit since I started playing. If you try to personify my play into nothingness, then I guess that's just where you're going to end up.

I actually tried to come up with reads early so people would be able to gauge where I was coming from, but apparently someone thinks that I never come up with reads so talking to me is impossible.

@Lian: Sure. I guess. I looked back and I can see BH coming up with that stuff on his own. It's still mediocre, but maybe I'm biased.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 07:23 GMT
#1154
Okay, first order of business is going to sleep.

Second order of business is telling you that I'm not getting lynched and you're full of it etc etc.

Third is something. Probably a scumread. If I don't have one of those, maybe some atmosphere analysis. Idk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 07:25 GMT
#1158
It's 2 AM in the States and the clock just turned back an hour. Lay off me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 07:26 GMT
#1159
You're all assholes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 14:42 GMT
#1170
On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok, first priority OWS,
Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order
then like bh


Care to explain why?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:26 GMT
#1174
On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok, first priority OWS,
Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order
then like bh


Care to explain why?

Not really.

Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"?


Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?"

Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:29 GMT
#1177
On November 03 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok, first priority OWS,
Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order
then like bh


Care to explain why?

Not really.

Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"?


Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?"

Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning.

Read what holyflare said.
Defend it properly.


I already did this. I fail to see what I haven't defended.

Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:36 GMT
#1181
On November 03 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok, first priority OWS,
Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order
then like bh


Care to explain why?

Not really.

Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"?


Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?"

Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning.

Read what holyflare said.
Defend it properly.


I already did this. I fail to see what I haven't defended.

Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?

not really.
I reread your filter.
Your defence sucks balls.

You get lynched.
Good bye.


So instead of just asking me to elaborate on something you feel that I missed, you're just going to hop on my wagon?

Lmao. Okay.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:38 GMT
#1183
On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing


The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit.

So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:51 GMT
#1187
On November 03 2014 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing


The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit.

So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.


Yes well you keep saying this and giving no explanation why. Absolutely 0 reason why the argument is shit. This is your problem you say something is bad and don't elaborate and it makes you look absolutely terrible and now one of your town reads even agrees with me and damdred clearly isn't reading it so he doesn't count but ritoky agrees too so that's 3/3 of the people that matter agreeing. So maybe for once you are in the wrong and you literally have no idea what you're talking about because you got called out for doing mafia things.

Your only explanation that you have given is that a cop did it when he had a red check one time which was evidently to hide the fact he had a red check but it doesn't apply at all to this game and makes no reference to damd and his situation at all.


Are you reading what I'm posting or no? I stated multiple times why I think your case is convoluted and you just keep stuffing your fingers in your ears going "lalalalalalala."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:53 GMT
#1188
"Okay Obi. Go do some things besides defend yourself."

"Okay."

"I'm actually going to keep tunneling you though."

Awesome.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#1192
Oats has the scummiest vote on my wagon. His scumread on me is borderline unexplained and he doesn't seem to care enough to want a response for anything he has an issue with.

In hindsight, lian's posting last night looks infinitely better when I'm not biased and angry. Another likely townie imo.

Holyflare's scumread reads like more of a power struggle rather than some kind of genuine scumread. I don't think it's scummy; I just think his push is misplaced.

@Slam: I'm kind of aware. I don't know where else to look right now because I feel like my vision of this game doesn't really extend beyond myself atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 16:39 GMT
#1204
On November 03 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
How can you say he's absolutely town but then want to lynch him if he doesn't do something lol


Heh.

These people I can lynch today if I had to lynch someone right now:

jrkirby
risk.nuke
Misder
Seuss

I'm tentatively including Oats, but I'm relatively omgus-y right now and I'm not sure if it's personal or not. He probably isn't getting lynched today anyway so that might be fine.

As for the names I listed, I don't have spectacular reasons for all of them yet. They're mostly PoE'd out of the people I don't want to lynch for one reason or another. All of them feel relatively forgettable and useless, and neither of those traits are good on day 1.

I'm going to switch between filter diving and playing Street Fighter or something for the next couple of hours. One of my specific filter targets is going to be LT since he's becoming a hot topic. Fwiw, I know he has a scummy day 1 meta like me so take that as you will.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 17:07 GMT
#1208
On November 03 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 01:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
How can you say he's absolutely town but then want to lynch him if he doesn't do something lol


Heh.

These people I can lynch today if I had to lynch someone right now:

jrkirby
risk.nuke
Misder
Seuss

I'm tentatively including Oats, but I'm relatively omgus-y right now and I'm not sure if it's personal or not. He probably isn't getting lynched today anyway so that might be fine.

As for the names I listed, I don't have spectacular reasons for all of them yet. They're mostly PoE'd out of the people I don't want to lynch for one reason or another. All of them feel relatively forgettable and useless, and neither of those traits are good on day 1.

I'm going to switch between filter diving and playing Street Fighter or something for the next couple of hours. One of my specific filter targets is going to be LT since he's becoming a hot topic. Fwiw, I know he has a scummy day 1 meta like me so take that as you will.

seriously you do this shit and you call my read bad.
>....>


I'm obviously going to call your read bad.

Also I can lynch Holyflare for not giving me slutty witch pics.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 21:46 GMT
#1270
I should be back for deadline, but wound up getting called in to work. Phoneposting atm.

Misder popping in when he did is kind of weird, but I want to see what he says in his catch up before I make a more accurate judgement. His analysis is superficial which bothers me, but I might be biased since he called me scummy for a nonreason.

LT looks okay and I don't particularly want to lynch him. His read on Damdred is kind of weird and his filter is kind of small but I don't see anything overtly scummy in his filter.

I really don't see any better lynches than risk atm. That's where my vote is going. I should be home an hour or two before deadline to rethink things if something major comes up.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 22:15 GMT
#1289
On November 03 2014 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Obi's list was hilarious btw. Literally every single lurker combined with an excuse for absence


If you have a better solution then I'm all ears.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 00:42 GMT
#1386
On November 03 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not trying to lynch risk.
I'm trying to lynch damdred/circumstance.

If you have read Tolkien's scum games, you would see that this is not his scum meta also.

He wants to be lynched.


I might be willing to back you on the Circumstance lynch. I'm mostly caught up but I'm still relatively unsure of an LT lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 00:49 GMT
#1390
Circumstance

Why did you vote LT?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 00:58 GMT
#1396
On November 03 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
alright guys some crap came up today and i'll try to catch up but i can't gaurantee reasonable thoughts between now and 2 hours form now when the day ends. can anyone tell me what the main wagons are besides GB? looks like I didn't work hard enough to get votes onto him so he's not a real possibliity


LT and risk.

People are considering switching to Circumstance.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:01 GMT
#1402
On November 03 2014 09:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 09:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
alright guys some crap came up today and i'll try to catch up but i can't gaurantee reasonable thoughts between now and 2 hours form now when the day ends. can anyone tell me what the main wagons are besides GB? looks like I didn't work hard enough to get votes onto him so he's not a real possibliity


LT and risk.

People are considering switching to Circumstance.


ok. who do you think we should lynch? not that I value your opinion but who you choose to go after is informative


Tbh, looking over what happened, I'm willing to leave risk alone today. I can vote LT if nothing else, but it's mostly for consolidation and I don't have much reasoning as to why we should kill him.

The thing is that Circumstance has been completely and utterly worthless and just ninja voted LT, which scares me. He's been here the whole time in yet he won't tell anyone why he's voting who he's voting.

It's scummy as fuck.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:13 GMT
#1406
Circumstance. Why did you vote LT?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:18 GMT
#1409
I just realized that no matter what happens today, I win.

If LT flips town, then Circumstance gets shot/checked for being a useless sack of scum.
If LT flips scum, then I can stop worrying about Circumstance for the time being.

I don't care about either of these people. I'm hopping on LT.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:30 GMT
#1415
I don't see how that's townie?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:31 GMT
#1416
Above aimed at Oats.

Also, I just read LT's reads list and you can fuck right off with that "I can't read him so he's town" nonsense.

You know who did that last time? Hopeless. Also scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:37 GMT
#1420
LT actually agreed with me because he didn't want to lynch Damdred for claiming.

I never said I didn't want to lynch Damdred for claiming. I said the reasons for lynching Damdred were bad before the claim, and I still haven't called him town because of it.

So his agreement is still bosh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:42 GMT
#1423
On November 03 2014 10:40 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 01:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
How can you say he's absolutely town but then want to lynch him if he doesn't do something lol


Heh.

These people I can lynch today if I had to lynch someone right now:

jrkirby
risk.nuke
Misder
Seuss

I'm tentatively including Oats, but I'm relatively omgus-y right now and I'm not sure if it's personal or not. He probably isn't getting lynched today anyway so that might be fine.

As for the names I listed, I don't have spectacular reasons for all of them yet. They're mostly PoE'd out of the people I don't want to lynch for one reason or another. All of them feel relatively forgettable and useless, and neither of those traits are good on day 1.

I'm going to switch between filter diving and playing Street Fighter or something for the next couple of hours. One of my specific filter targets is going to be LT since he's becoming a hot topic. Fwiw, I know he has a scummy day 1 meta like me so take that as you will.


can u explain how you came to those 4 ppl?


They were lurky and I couldn't remember anything they said.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:44 GMT
#1425
I think I caught the Palmar virus.

Hmph.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 01:47 GMT
#1428
On November 03 2014 10:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 10:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't see how that's townie?

Cause its super super suspicious.
Like too suspicous for scum, they feel an innate read to overexplain everything.


I'm going to remember this for my next scumgame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:01 GMT
#1441
Shut up HF. Stop being shit at reading me.

On November 03 2014 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 10:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 03 2014 10:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't see how that's townie?

Cause its super super suspicious.
Like too suspicous for scum, they feel an innate read to overexplain everything.


I'm going to remember this for my next scumgame.

go ahead, you will never do it.


I'll do it one of these days. I swear it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:04 GMT
#1443
On November 03 2014 11:03 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 10:58 liancourt wrote:
On November 03 2014 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 03 2014 05:05 Seuss wrote:
Hello again.

The timing of Damdred's vote-extension is scummy as hell. Almost immediately after GlowingBear began asserting that he'd caught Damdred in a lie, Damdred breadcrumbed his role and shortly thereafter that Follow the Rules happened. This play screams, "Shit I've been caught, better use my power to save myself." I'd expect a Town player to expend far more effort trying to preserve their useful power than just blow it on themselves the moment they get in trouble.

On that note I'm suspicious of LordTolkien because of his defense of Damdred. I think there's a pretty good that he's scum if Damdred is. At best LordTolkien is oblivious to the scrutiny Damdred was already under, and at worst he's trying to reframe events to make Damdred's desperate act of self-preservation seem Towny.

I'm a little suspicious of Obiwan as well but it would be pretty horrible play for two scum to come out with the same bad/oblivious "what's the scum motivation" defense when there's such an obvious scum motivation.

This is a good point about Damdred that was also brought up by BH.

Ugh..I could still lynch Damdred.

Can we also lynch risk.nuke?

##DoubleLynch: Activate


is this a joke or for real lol


It wasn't real. risk's response showed he was scum though.


How did this happen, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:10 GMT
#1450
On November 03 2014 11:06 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Could you idiots stop telling people that I'm mafia?

I don't want to have to go on another posting spree that ends with me posting 22 pages of shit and getting pissed off at everyone.


Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 10:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ugh HF voted me again.

This game is going to be really fucking annoying.


Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Christ I knew this game was going to be annoying. I'm already bored of this conversation.


Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.


you're scum for the second part of that post


You've also called me scum for not having enough "townie indicative thoughts" and "shitposting," while not elaborating on what either of those things meant. Color me unimpressed when you continue to call me scum for bad reasons for the second game in a row.

If you want to elaborate and maybe start some kind of dialogue, then sure I'll talk to you.

This is FF1 all over again and nobody has bothered to try to learn from any of it. You're all still hysterically bad at reading me.


I just don't these posts from ows where he just complains about people finding him scummy. Not sure what happened in the previous game, but these particular posts don't seem town - it's like being accused of being mafia isn't part of the game.


FF1: Hf caused the entire game to tunnel the fuck out of me for a good 4 days in a row because he is an asshole who loves to come up with reasons to try to kill me whenever he rolls town.

I actually wanted to play a really quiet towngame and reason things out and I'm in no mood to have captain spackypants put me on death row because I don't agree with him or because I didn't catch up fast enough or whatever the flavor of the month is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:11 GMT
#1452
I went overboard with that last post.

But seriously. Stop.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:19 GMT
#1464
On November 03 2014 11:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:06 Misder wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Could you idiots stop telling people that I'm mafia?

I don't want to have to go on another posting spree that ends with me posting 22 pages of shit and getting pissed off at everyone.


On November 02 2014 10:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ugh HF voted me again.

This game is going to be really fucking annoying.


On November 02 2014 14:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Christ I knew this game was going to be annoying. I'm already bored of this conversation.


On November 02 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[quote]

Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.


you're scum for the second part of that post


You've also called me scum for not having enough "townie indicative thoughts" and "shitposting," while not elaborating on what either of those things meant. Color me unimpressed when you continue to call me scum for bad reasons for the second game in a row.

If you want to elaborate and maybe start some kind of dialogue, then sure I'll talk to you.

This is FF1 all over again and nobody has bothered to try to learn from any of it. You're all still hysterically bad at reading me.


I just don't these posts from ows where he just complains about people finding him scummy. Not sure what happened in the previous game, but these particular posts don't seem town - it's like being accused of being mafia isn't part of the game.


FF1: Hf caused the entire game to tunnel the fuck out of me for a good 4 days in a row because he is an asshole who loves to come up with reasons to try to kill me whenever he rolls town.

I actually wanted to play a really quiet towngame and reason things out and I'm in no mood to have captain spackypants put me on death row because I don't agree with him or because I didn't catch up fast enough or whatever the flavor of the month is.


Says the guy that tunnelled the shit out of me and then day 1 abd 2 we lynched mafia???


I went overboard.

Stop though pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:26 GMT
#1484
I love how Lian is in his own little bubble.

It's hysterical.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 02:45 GMT
#1535
I can totes lynch Circumstance.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:09 GMT
#1582
I was voting LT, not liancourt.

I don't understand that votecount.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:13 GMT
#1586
How come I didn't get rogue?

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:22 GMT
#1594
VE - you scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:26 GMT
#1598
On November 03 2014 12:25 Damdred wrote:
The last time I wanted a lynch that bad Jay, HF decided it was better to kill town damdred then poisoner palmar at the last second *tear*


I'd rather take responsibility for that mislynch; if I was more confident in my read on Palmar Hf would've stayed on him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:51 GMT
#1616
But...I voted LT.

Hold up.

Oats and I both voted LT. Is there some kind of votecount manipulator in play or some such? I checked the votelogs and we're both on record as voting LT, but our votes wound up somewhere else somehow.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 03:59 GMT
#1621
On November 03 2014 12:56 Holyflare wrote:
It could just be the rogues power?


I guess. It's possible.

I don't know Hearthstone. I know World of Warcraft though, so...Maybe something like Distract?

Idk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 04:25 GMT
#1633
Just like I bussed Hopeless.

I bussed him so good.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 04:39 GMT
#1641
On November 03 2014 13:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 13:25 jaybrundage wrote:
Oats, VE what do you guys think of Circumstance?

i really dont know.
He didnt show up during lynch time even though he was here.
I kinda think that its a plus, but its like super super scummy, which means its townie.

Meh, lynch the scummy people.
Ok, hes super scummy and scum.


So what kind of drugs do you use?

Btw, if we have a third party, VE might be it. Looking back in his filter, he kind of hopped onto the LT bandwagon out of the blue based on the fact that his townreads were on it after halfheartedly pushing the risk wagon.

Actually, I wouldn't even call it that. It was more like questioning people about him and then jumping on a wagon for nondescript, generic reasons.

It looked really apathetic.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 04:59 GMT
#1642
If you have an information role, check VE.

If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe.

I don't like his filter at all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 06:57 GMT
#1658
On November 03 2014 15:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 14:48 ritoky wrote:
@VE: Would like your response to this:

On November 03 2014 13:30 ritoky wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
People I currently peg as solid town,

HF: can never read him
riotsky: i am sheep and HF is muh welsh shepherd (also other reasons that i dont need to go over)
VE: double-lynch is always pro town, and my town read on him hasn't changed
GB: meeeeeeta read, also he's not playing passive scummerdoge game
Slam: his "theory" makes me peg him as donkey town lel


On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Three,

Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on.

I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading.



These are the town reads that LT gave in the thread, to condense them into list form it is:
- ritoky
- HF
- VE
- GB
- Slam
- OWS
- Oats

I find it unlikely that LT went 100% bus mode and didn't town read a SINGLE of his partners, so there is likely at least 1 mafia in that list. I would like people to look at the list and pick out the most likely mafia from that list and why.

Well like I said earlier, people who wanted to get off LT are immediately suspicious based solely on the fact that LT flipped mafia. So that shines a light on OWS and Oats because they ended up off the wagon, and includes anyone who was trying to leave the wagon subtly come shenanigan time. I wasn't here and will have to look at that.

Aside from that your list includes my townreads HF and GB and Slam, myself and you who I'm leaning town on.


You're aware that both Oats and myself attempted to vote LT and had our votes redirected elsewhere by something/someone, right?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 07:08 GMT
#1662
On November 03 2014 16:03 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 13:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you have an information role, check VE.

If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe.

I don't like his filter at all.

Telling blue roles what to do is so dumb. The funny part is its also self defeating. What you say will be less likely to happen as scum can see it too and would know who to protect. So blue is less likely to do what you want.

Just let them do there thing and hope everyone uses common sense.


Alternatively you can shoot this guy because he is alive.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 07:24 GMT
#1667
On November 03 2014 16:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 16:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 16:03 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 03 2014 13:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you have an information role, check VE.

If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe.

I don't like his filter at all.

Telling blue roles what to do is so dumb. The funny part is its also self defeating. What you say will be less likely to happen as scum can see it too and would know who to protect. So blue is less likely to do what you want.

Just let them do there thing and hope everyone uses common sense.


Alternatively you can shoot this guy because he is alive.

? No idea what your talking about here.


Am joking.

Cripes you people are the most uptight I swear.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 07:25 GMT
#1668
I'm just going to ignore Hf because he's still bad at reading me.

Good night.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 15:57 GMT
#1678
Probably not lynching Circumstance tomorrow.

VE is an infinitely better choice.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 16:24 GMT
#1682
Hf why are you such a piece of shit?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 16:28 GMT
#1683
Ugh ignore the above.

I don't want to lynch Circumstance because his vote was so haphazard and lazy that I find it hard to believe that scum just busses their partner out of nowhere for no reason. A normal mafioso will try to get something out of the lynch, at least.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 16:30 GMT
#1684
Like, it's possible Circumstance could be 3p for the same reasons Ve could be 3p.

I just have a hard time putting that vote into a scum-esque context with the knowledge of Lt's flip. Circumstance got nothing out of it and just looks really weird for doing what he did.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 17:09 GMT
#1688
I read his filter before he posted his reads list which was what made me scumread him.

I didn't read his filter again until later because I was focused on Circumstance's ninja vote.

When I read his filter again I saw the list, which meant that I was justified in killing him; I had no compunction about killing either Circumstance or Lt because I was pretty sure I would hit scum either way. The list was basically the cherry on top.

Your entire paragraph on my other scumreads is meaningless.

I've refuted all of your arguments and you keep saying that I'm not doing so. Stop tunneling me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 17:46 GMT
#1691
Except I didn't lie about anything.

I don't see the problem.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 18:10 GMT
#1694
On November 04 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
i just pointed out your lie getrekt


Except I didn't lie about anything.

I didn't even scumread him until after I voted him. I could have ignored his list or I could have not posted about it at all and it shouldn't matter, because I had reasoning for voting him even before the fact.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 18:10 GMT
#1695
On November 04 2014 03:01 Seuss wrote:
It's pretty hard to believe you were unaware of LordTolkien's scummy list when yours is literally one of five posts separating the two halves.


You try paying attention to everything when you're working rush.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 21:52 GMT
#1712
I didn't fucking lie. Read my posts already holy fuck.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 22:24 GMT
#1718
On November 04 2014 06:56 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't fucking lie. Read my posts already holy fuck.


calm down there jimbo

explain what happened bro


I read Lt's filter before I went to work and I didn't think it looked awful.

I read the game during work and saw Circ's ninja vote.

I decided that no matter who got lynched between Lt and circ, I would probably hit mafia.

I went back over Lt's filter after I voted and saw the list.

If I didn't talk about the list at all it would just be some other bullshit. Had is just straight tunneling me and isn't listening.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 22:26 GMT
#1719
*hf

Still phone posting atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#1724
On November 04 2014 07:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I read his filter before he posted his reads list which was what made me scumread him.

Show nested quote +
I read his filter before he posted his reads list which was what made me scumread him.

Show nested quote +
I read his filter before he posted his reads list which was what made me scumread him.

Show nested quote +
I read his filter before he posted his reads list which was what made me scumread him.


Yes. This is exactly what happened.

Why is this a problem?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 03 2014 23:09 GMT
#1739
I'm not fucking lying.

When I get home I'm going to sort this mess out. But stop telling people that I'm lying because I'm fucking not.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:13 GMT
#1765
On November 04 2014 09:27 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea Obi wan looks pretty bad here. What threw me off about what HF posted was that the post where Obi wan said he was going filter him was way before the list thing was posted. But granted if you say your gonna focus on looking into someone You should be keeping an eye out for there posts. And If Obi wan was deciding between two people to lynch and not even factoring in a post that is a few hours old. Is he even reading the game or making up shit as mafia.

Later saying that this post changed his mind just does not add up
Would lynch day 2
[image loading]


I already said why I missed it the first time: because I was working rush and I thought that Circumstance's ninja vote was a more important plot point. I glossed over it and thought it looked fine, but on closer inspection I realized it was a mafia post.

It's not even like it matters though, because that's not why I voted Lt.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:16 GMT
#1766
Also, I'm home. Someone throw some stupid shit at me so I can debunk it and go back to solving the game without getting pestered by everyone for the bajillionth time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:18 GMT
#1767
On November 04 2014 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
Who the fuck says that they went through a filter and thought it wasn't bad to then think "yeh lynching between these 2 is guaranteed to give us mafia!" like wtf

Your lt scum read is so opportune on the wagon it's ridiculous it's like you came to the party late and we're all wearing superhero fancy dress and you're just sitting there thinking shit shit shit and grab a dining table cloth and use that as a cape just to try and blend into the party


Because Circumstance was being superscum and I thought Lt's flip would tell us something about him.

I already explained how I felt about this so I don't know how you can turn around and go "oh no how can you think that even though you already told us."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:20 GMT
#1768
On November 04 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
...... How are you so blind?


I still have no idea what your problem is with my filter diving.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:37 GMT
#1772
On November 04 2014 10:33 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Chupazi

Why all the stuff and pages, need not even think

It is risknike

Imagine a sloth eating carrots, yes this is me

Why do you think its risk.nuke besides his inactivity that he said is IRL related.


I'm guessing you don't actually care about my defense.

Good to know.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:39 GMT
#1774
On November 04 2014 10:39 liancourt wrote:
what mafia hasn't used that excuse lol


Who are you talking to?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:42 GMT
#1776
Fair enough.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:52 GMT
#1777
Yeah, I came back to defend myself and everyone fucks off and stops giving a shit. I'm probably going to get shot so what the fuck ever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 01:54 GMT
#1779
Thanks I guess.

Not going to help me though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:07 GMT
#1796
Are you fucking serious?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:08 GMT
#1799
Literally the most asinine game ever.

I'm Malfurion Stormrage. My day 1 power was some stupid voting thing that I didn't even bother with because I wanted to keep my head down. It was useless anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:09 GMT
#1802
I obviously didn't get my day 2 thing yet.

Otherwise I would've told you. ~.~
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:12 GMT
#1805
Jb did you really force a lynch between us?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:13 GMT
#1807
"Jb agrees with me so he's town."

Baller.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:16 GMT
#1810
I accept the fact that I'm likely to get lynched today.

Hf, stop posting shit about me because it's probably a done deal anyway. I'm probably dead and I don't think Jb is mafia, so I'm not going to hammer the guy pushing me especially since I thought he was town since really early. Use the time to talk about other suspects.

I'm town. The forced lynch was a mistake. If I get lynched, I get lynched. But stop fucking tunneling me now.

Jb, I'd suggest not claiming. You're not the one at risk today and I don't want you to paint a target on your back.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:17 GMT
#1811
On November 04 2014 12:15 Holyflare wrote:
Mainly because he was asking you super good questions before deadline


Yeah I'm aware.

I just wish he didn't jump the gun and get more solid analysis done before jumping on me like that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:18 GMT
#1813
And I still didn't fucking lie about what I was doing. Stop that shit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:21 GMT
#1816
On November 04 2014 12:19 Misder wrote:
##Send ObiWanShinobi to OBLIVION!


Hm.

Did you ever follow up on that scumread you had on me earlier? You posted about how I was defensive and that's about it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:29 GMT
#1826
On November 04 2014 12:29 Damdred wrote:
Well its just an automatic ability that if someone says a specific word there vote power is gone for the cycle.


What the fuck.

Is this a specific someone or is it everyone?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:36 GMT
#1840
I don't even get a day 2 power.

...
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:37 GMT
#1842
This game is so fucking stupid.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:44 GMT
#1848
Just tell us what it is so I can say it. I'm going to fucking die anyway and I'm worthless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 03:46 GMT
#1850
On November 04 2014 12:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 12:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Just tell us what it is so I can say it. I'm going to fucking die anyway and I'm worthless.


How obvious does it have to be??? You should be empowering tirion


Shut the fuck up. I am done talking to you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:06 GMT
#1872
So Ve is still scum. Thanks for ignoring me when I called him out.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:30 GMT
#1905
This double lynch thing is so fucking stupid. All I can do is sit here and get lynched and there's nothing I can fucking do about it. I DONT EVEN GET A POWER TO USE. ALL I GET IS BULLSHIT.

I am avoiding every single kita game I see from now on. This is fucking garbage and I wish I didn't join.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:33 GMT
#1910
WHO CARES. EVERYONE WAS TUNNELING ME OVER BULLSHIT AND NOBODY LISTENS TO ME.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:35 GMT
#1918
On November 04 2014 13:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm listening. But all you're doing is wrongly calling me mafia and you can imagine how boring that is to hear.


Welcome to my world of every single second of this game.

I'm dead anyway so who gives a fuck. I was town. I'll probably show up a couple more times but everyone is okay calling me shit and useless and killing me over posting during work hours.

Fucking awful. I hate all of you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:40 GMT
#1929
On November 04 2014 13:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 13:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm listening. But all you're doing is wrongly calling me mafia and you can imagine how boring that is to hear.


Welcome to my world of every single second of this game.

I'm dead anyway so who gives a fuck. I was town. I'll probably show up a couple more times but everyone is okay calling me shit and useless and killing me over posting during work hours.

Fucking awful. I hate all of you.

I haven't called you mafia at all all game. And as far as I know, not many people have even considered it. Basically you're just freaking out about being on the losing end of THIS vote based on thread sentiment, which is fine, but it's a really POOR reaction so you can't blame people for thinking you're mafia for it.

The negativity is really uncalled for man.


have you been reading whats been going on or no
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 04:53 GMT
#1946
On November 04 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 13:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:43 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:41 Holyflare wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:35 Holyflare wrote:
On November 04 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
What?

SHINOBI doesn't deserve hate either. You folks suck at reading him or I remove peach from my sig and replace with link for like a day

This big yo


So you're saying he's town and you've sat back and let him take all this suspicion just because? That's really towny of you

It actually is, scum hard defend townies more often than townies do

I still remember the "Priority 1: establish your own townieness"

Emphasis mine. Under the current meta, it's him or both of us but at this point it was getting personal. So here I am


So you let him take the heat in order to protect yourself even if you town read him and he was super likely to get shot/killed/lynched? Just because you didn't want to look suspicious??..

Precisely.

Besides I had no defense to give him, it is just a gut townread.


On November 04 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
What?

SHINOBI doesn't deserve hate either. You folks suck at reading him or I remove peach from my sig and replace with link for like a day

This big yo



Bit of an overreaction for a gut read? Removing peach and saying we suck??

Cuz u h8in on him m8

Btw I remember we are always that creepy name lol

Hijole
http://iamarg.com/2012/01/26/thetruestoryofjustinbailey/

And some obscure game called granada


I'm not hating i put forward multiple reasons for him being mafia which were met with increasingly sub par answers and a lot of the time insults and now he's whinging.


I explained everything and all you said was "no you're not responding to anything."

Every time.

EVERY TIME.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:06 GMT
#1956
I never lied.

Ever.

Not once.

When I flip town, you come back and you fucking apologize. Your scumread on me changes all the time and it's all meant to make me look bad. Not even in a "I think you're scum way," it's all, "you're a piece of shit" way.

I've had enough. It's fucking bullshit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:11 GMT
#1960
Fine.

But your apology thread better have pictures.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:12 GMT
#1962
By the way, I'm a little weirded out about the fact that you never realized that I never bus.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:14 GMT
#1966
On November 04 2014 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I think you need to change your name again obi, you were better earlier.

I guess since nobody claimed either kill, mafia either has 2kp or a vig shot. OR there is a 3p with kp.

Interesting kills seriously.


???
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:17 GMT
#1969
I love how people say they're open to lynching jb over me.

He's so obviously town and I'm getting tunneled.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:24 GMT
#1972
Meh, I'm leaving for the night. I guess I'll just ask some stupid question that's going to end in me dying anyway.

Jb, why is it that you only started asking good questions when night was about to end and ended up not caring about the responses as soon as day broke?

Why would you even bother asking them if you already made up your mind based on the fact that I scumread Lt off of a list post?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:30 GMT
#1980
On November 04 2014 14:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how people say they're open to lynching jb over me.

He's so obviously town and I'm getting tunneled.

Are you not so obviously town also to yourself? Like, why do you say he's obviously town?


I remember marking him as town really early. I wanted to compare my read to whatever the cat said to see what alignment the cat was when it analyzed him.

I didn't write it down though, so I can't remember all of it. I think it had a lot to do with holding people accountable for stuff and asking really good questions on day 1.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:34 GMT
#1983
On November 04 2014 14:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how people say they're open to lynching jb over me.

He's so obviously town and I'm getting tunneled.

Are you not so obviously town also to yourself? Like, why do you say he's obviously town?


I remember marking him as town really early. I wanted to compare my read to whatever the cat said to see what alignment the cat was when it analyzed him.

I didn't write it down though, so I can't remember all of it. I think it had a lot to do with holding people accountable for stuff and asking really good questions on day 1.

So if you're town and you believe that Jay is town then FROM YOUR perspective then you're both town. What do you think this means about the Jaraxas role or whatever that did this to you? Mafia or town aligned?


It depends on jb's answers to my questions, I guess.

Is Jaraxas someone else?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:41 GMT
#1988
On November 04 2014 14:39 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Meh, I'm leaving for the night. I guess I'll just ask some stupid question that's going to end in me dying anyway.

Jb, why is it that you only started asking good questions when night was about to end and ended up not caring about the responses as soon as day broke?

Why would you even bother asking them if you already made up your mind based on the fact that I scumread Lt off of a list post?

I was reading thru your whole filter for a while. The time stamps changing threw me off track for a bit. And It did appear that you should of seen the LT list post. You even said you had seen it. But you glossed over it. You were focusing on two people I would think that a post that you think was straight up a Mafia post would of stood out to you more.

You are free to respond to my questions still. After night 1 tho trying to figure out your alignment seemed like a waste of time because I am going to vote my self regardless cause I know I'm town.

However IF you are in fact town.. Try to keep your head up mate. Keep posting your insight. Maybe you will see something we will miss. You can still help town win


So if you made your mind up, why bother asking?

It clearly wasn't a waste of time to you because you made this really pretty looking post right before night ended, which you never bothered to follow up on and never seemed to matter to you anyway because you already made your decision.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:43 GMT
#1990
And I told you that I didn't even vote Lt for that post.

I wanted to kill two people and I didn't give a shit about either of them. Did you ignore that or what?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:55 GMT
#2003
On November 04 2014 14:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:39 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Meh, I'm leaving for the night. I guess I'll just ask some stupid question that's going to end in me dying anyway.

Jb, why is it that you only started asking good questions when night was about to end and ended up not caring about the responses as soon as day broke?

Why would you even bother asking them if you already made up your mind based on the fact that I scumread Lt off of a list post?

I was reading thru your whole filter for a while. The time stamps changing threw me off track for a bit. And It did appear that you should of seen the LT list post. You even said you had seen it. But you glossed over it. You were focusing on two people I would think that a post that you think was straight up a Mafia post would of stood out to you more.

You are free to respond to my questions still. After night 1 tho trying to figure out your alignment seemed like a waste of time because I am going to vote my self regardless cause I know I'm town.

However IF you are in fact town.. Try to keep your head up mate. Keep posting your insight. Maybe you will see something we will miss. You can still help town win


So if you made your mind up, why bother asking?

It clearly wasn't a waste of time to you because you made this really pretty looking post right before night ended, which you never bothered to follow up on and never seemed to matter to you anyway because you already made your decision.

Your going on the assumption that I engaged this...

I was asking cause I wanted to try to discern your alignment. I posted my questions and didn't even realize that the night was over didn't realize they were gonna cut the night short an hour. After the Jarraxus thing came up in the day 2 post. It seemed like one of us was going to die regardless of whatever your alignment is. So I never bothered going back to the questions


So you're not Jarraxus?

What are you then?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 05:59 GMT
#2007
On November 04 2014 14:57 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:53 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:39 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 04 2014 14:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Meh, I'm leaving for the night. I guess I'll just ask some stupid question that's going to end in me dying anyway.

Jb, why is it that you only started asking good questions when night was about to end and ended up not caring about the responses as soon as day broke?

Why would you even bother asking them if you already made up your mind based on the fact that I scumread Lt off of a list post?

I was reading thru your whole filter for a while. The time stamps changing threw me off track for a bit. And It did appear that you should of seen the LT list post. You even said you had seen it. But you glossed over it. You were focusing on two people I would think that a post that you think was straight up a Mafia post would of stood out to you more.

You are free to respond to my questions still. After night 1 tho trying to figure out your alignment seemed like a waste of time because I am going to vote my self regardless cause I know I'm town.

However IF you are in fact town.. Try to keep your head up mate. Keep posting your insight. Maybe you will see something we will miss. You can still help town win


So if you made your mind up, why bother asking?

It clearly wasn't a waste of time to you because you made this really pretty looking post right before night ended, which you never bothered to follow up on and never seemed to matter to you anyway because you already made your decision.

Your going on the assumption that I engaged this...

I was asking cause I wanted to try to discern your alignment. I posted my questions and didn't even realize that the night was over didn't realize they were gonna cut the night short an hour. After the Jarraxus thing came up in the day 2 post. It seemed like one of us was going to die regardless of whatever your alignment is. So I never bothered going back to the questions


So you're not Jarraxus?

What are you then?

Dude aren't you the one that asked me not to claim?


Yeah, well now I'm asking you to claim.

Either you made up your mind about killing me today despite asking me questions near night end despite not knowing what Jarraxus was, or something antitown stuck us together.

So claim.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:05 GMT
#2015
Bh is so supicious that he got shot.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:07 GMT
#2019
I'll give you a hint:

Not the guy being tunneled by Holyflare.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:09 GMT
#2023
Cool.

So I'm just going to go back to not playing this game now since this whole setup is designed to fuck me in the ass.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:11 GMT
#2025
Fuck you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:12 GMT
#2027
Your apology mspaint is going to consist of lots of Splinter Cell things.

Green is my favorite color. Hop to it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:29 GMT
#2044
He's focused on making his apology paint.

Be patient.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:29 GMT
#2045
On November 04 2014 15:28 Holyflare wrote:
I probably end up with the ashbringer or something ridiculous


And fuck this setup if this actually happens because that sounds fucking rad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:41 GMT
#2055
On November 04 2014 15:39 ritoky wrote:
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On November 04 2014 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Literally the most asinine game ever.

I'm Malfurion Stormrage. My day 1 power was some stupid voting thing that I didn't even bother with because I wanted to keep my head down. It was useless anyway.


I would like the details of said power that you did not use.

I find it odd that VE was advocating judging roles based on their powers, not who they are in the lore. We have 2 people, we have to decide 1 of which dies and he didn't ask further into the details of either of their roles.



My vote was worth either 2 or negative 3 for a day.

I didn't choose either of them so I didn't get a power. Not like it mattered because my vote was worthless.

Who cares though. Nobody is lynching jb over me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:48 GMT
#2059
On November 04 2014 15:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 15:39 ritoky wrote:
On November 04 2014 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Literally the most asinine game ever.

I'm Malfurion Stormrage. My day 1 power was some stupid voting thing that I didn't even bother with because I wanted to keep my head down. It was useless anyway.


I would like the details of said power that you did not use.

I find it odd that VE was advocating judging roles based on their powers, not who they are in the lore. We have 2 people, we have to decide 1 of which dies and he didn't ask further into the details of either of their roles.



My vote was worth either 2 or negative 3 for a day.

I didn't choose either of them so I didn't get a power. Not like it mattered because my vote was worthless.

Who cares though. Nobody is lynching jb over me.


I am considering it, I have a hard time seeing you; and malfurion (who no one has cc'd) being mafia.

Primarily, pardon my insult, because I have a hard time believing that 2 mafia were stupid enough to make a dumpster tier read (you) on damdred and then the other sheep that read for 0 reason (LT). Like that play just seems too bad for both of you to be mafia.

I have a much easier time seeing jay's play yesterday as being mafia, as well as you know....a devil from the burning legion....


Yeah, you can call it what you want. I'm never defending anyone again because other players are selfish assholes that abuse it by getting me lynched.

If you really want to get jb lynched, good luck convincing everyone. Nothing I can do now because tunnels and whatnot. I'll be a burden for as long as I'm alive anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:55 GMT
#2062
On November 04 2014 15:51 jrkirby wrote:
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On November 04 2014 15:45 ritoky wrote:
On November 04 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 04 2014 15:39 ritoky wrote:
On November 04 2014 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Literally the most asinine game ever.

I'm Malfurion Stormrage. My day 1 power was some stupid voting thing that I didn't even bother with because I wanted to keep my head down. It was useless anyway.


I would like the details of said power that you did not use.

I find it odd that VE was advocating judging roles based on their powers, not who they are in the lore. We have 2 people, we have to decide 1 of which dies and he didn't ask further into the details of either of their roles.



My vote was worth either 2 or negative 3 for a day.

I didn't choose either of them so I didn't get a power. Not like it mattered because my vote was worthless.

Who cares though. Nobody is lynching jb over me.


I am considering it, I have a hard time seeing you; and malfurion (who no one has cc'd) being mafia.

Primarily, pardon my insult, because I have a hard time believing that 2 mafia were stupid enough to make a dumpster tier read (you) on damdred and then the other sheep that read for 0 reason (LT). Like that play just seems too bad for both of you to be mafia.

I have a much easier time seeing jay's play yesterday as being mafia, as well as you know....a devil from the burning legion....


From the OP:

Show nested quote +
A player's character name does not have any relation to their alignment.


Yeah you're right, I'm actually Malfurion the third party cult recruiter.

You guys are totes fucked I recruit like 5 people already.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:55 GMT
#2063
Actually I'm Malfurion the serial killer.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 06:56 GMT
#2064
On November 04 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote:
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I'm never defending anyone again because other players are selfish assholes that abuse it by getting me lynched.


If you have legitimate reasons that aren't this lynch is bad it's fine


Nha, I'm just not doing it anymore. Done. Finito.

Nobody is worth defending anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 07:07 GMT
#2065
I love how clueless Hf still is about what I was saying about Damdred.

Just completely lost.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 18:03 GMT
#2085
Hi, I'm Ve. I'm going to push the guy who abandoned the counter wagon to Lt and the only other possible counter wagon to scum.

Skillshot.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 18:30 GMT
#2088
@Ritoky: It's probably better if you don't tbh. I'm going to be a question mark until the end of the game because Hf lost his shit and tunneled me from the get-go. Even if you lynch jb and he somehow flips scum, I'm probably still going to get vigged or something on the off chance of a superbus or whatever the fuck the next accusation is.

If you really think that scum stuck their neck out like this just to lynch someone that's liable to get lynched/shot either way, then go ahead and push him. I'll vote him to save myself if people realize I'm town, but I really don't think that's likely at this point.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 18:33 GMT
#2089
I said I wouldn't defend anyone and I'm still doing it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 18:39 GMT
#2092
I looked them over and they didn't look spectacular. Soft-pushing doesn't really seem like a feasible thing to push in and of itself, but I'm rereading the thread just to make sure I'm not losing my mind.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 18:40 GMT
#2093
On November 05 2014 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On November 05 2014 03:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hi, I'm Ve. I'm going to push the guy who abandoned the counter wagon to Lt and the only other possible counter wagon to scum.

Skillshot.

Why are you talking shit? You said you thought I was mafia earlier, where did that go? "Skillshot" implies that you think I'm town fucking up.


It didn't go anywhere. I'm not implying anything other than the fact that I don't think that pushing a scumteam of risk/ows makes sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 19:20 GMT
#2097
I'm looking through the entire game and jayb's push looks like anything but soft pushing.

He was calling Lt out since quite early and was pretty aggressive about it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#2099
Ugh.

Ve is town isn't he?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 20:30 GMT
#2104
I'll be back in a few hours.

##vote slam
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 22:32 GMT
#2116
I'm not going to be back for deadline. At least, not the first one. I don't remember the details on the second one but who gives a shit 'cause we all know I'm getting voted off the second it happens.

I'm voting risk.nuke. I don't care about him at all and I don't have better reasons to vote anyone else.

Consider voting Slam. Slam voted Jb knowing full well that I'm going to be the one who flips. His actions near deadline were also strange; he kept coming up with reasons to switch off of Lt. If you decide to lynch him or something, do it before lylo. Don't just let him roam around doing nothing because we all know that the game will basically end on lylo if he's town and nobody gave a shit about him beforehand.

Kirby's vote was weird. Who gets pissed off over a medic claim?

Ve, Hf, Damdred, and ritoky are 100% town. Never lynch. If Hf gets shot I'll give whoever shoots him a medal, but that's probably not going to happen.

Oats could be town but I'm biased. He clearly didn't care about any of my responses to anything but that seems par for the course for this group.

Jb is still town. I think I've said why, but if I didn't go fuck yourself because I'm not walking you through it.

There are a bunch of people I haven't talked about but a lot of them aren't interested in engaging me so I can't figure them out. Misder looks okay/townish I guess. I can't remember anything Seuss has done.

I find it hard to believe that Lt wasn't bussed by at least one player.

I might come back, I might not. I'm going outside and I may be some time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 22:41 GMT
#2118
And don't let the fact that he's "unreadable" sway you. He can totally play like a normal person. Pressure him and see what happens.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 22:49 GMT
#2120
Idk he's all towny and shit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 22:53 GMT
#2122
For a better explanation, I see him asking a lot of good questions and his reads are congruent with the goings-on of the thread.

It's simple, but I find it to be effective.

That and I don't see scum Damdred coming up with 8 pages like this.

Who cares though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#2126
You can lynch him though because he totally left me out to dry.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 23:15 GMT
#2130
Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.

It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#2137
On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.

It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got.

Crossing fingers its HF.


If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:04 GMT
#2172
Jb still isn't scum.

Just lynch me. I take solace in the fact that you're working diligently in mspaint to make up for your transgressions. I'm going to be a question mark down the road anyway so whatever. I didn't even get a cool role so fuck it I don't even care.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#2174
Remember: green.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:18 GMT
#2177
Just an fyi, the huge amount of inactivity and the lack of focus on the lynch target indicates that we're probably on town or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:19 GMT
#2178
On the main lynch, of course.

Both the alternate lynch choices are town so naturally nobody gives a shit about them except like 3 people.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:27 GMT
#2180
You know what's really weird?

Oats ninja voted. That means he's paying attention but he clearly doesn't care enough to post in the thread. He's happy to let it stagnate.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:40 GMT
#2184
I don't understand why you gave him your vote when he's just going to keep it on me no matter what.

You're so diametrically opposed to him as it stands.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 04:53 GMT
#2187
On November 05 2014 13:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't understand why you gave him your vote when he's just going to keep it on me no matter what.

You're so diametrically opposed to him as it stands.


He doesn't sacrifice the secondary lynch vote....


Oh. I forgot.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 05:23 GMT
#2194
I didn't fucking lie.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 17:23 GMT
#2222
On November 06 2014 02:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On November 06 2014 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
One thing that's been on my mind is VisceralEyes' assertion during N1 that he was going to be pushing for Damdred today and not sheeping HolyFlare.


This is actually a great point

Hi, I'm sorry, this was my fucking lynch? Yeah this was my fucking lynch. You wanted to lynch someone else and I was all "What about risk nuke?" and you're all "Yeeeeah booooyyyy"

So no, it's actually not a great point. If you think it's a great point you'r emafia. Was it a great point?


lol

Ve reminds me of me when I'm not exhausted/frustrated.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 17:49 GMT
#2225
I just had a moment of clarity while I was in the shower.

Oats is town. No, I won't explain why.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 17:53 GMT
#2226
On November 06 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
You seem pretty disinterested.


I love how you agree with almost everything that I say in yet you're voting me off anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 18:24 GMT
#2237
On November 06 2014 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
THE SHIT IS GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE?!?!


I'm here.

I love how the people on my wagon are all accusing each other of being scum. I just don't have the energy to deal with this shit anymore. It's ridiculous.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 18:26 GMT
#2238
If you really think him losing his shit and turning against the people supporting him or siding with people calling him scum is alignment indicative, then you've never seen a Holyflare town game.

Or a Holyflare scum game.

It's not even an important plot point because he does it regardless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 18:27 GMT
#2241
On November 06 2014 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
I am not on your wagon dude, I STARTED dat jaybrundage train yo


Not talking about you bro.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 18:32 GMT
#2244
Ve, you're not going to get a good answer. I don't know what you're expecting.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 18:39 GMT
#2247
I'm going to work.

I'll be back before deadline but whatever, I don't have the energy to fix anything in this awful game anymore. Someone quote Hf's promise to apologize and do the paint thing before I die if I don't do it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#2263
It's Holyflare.

Lol.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 19:42 GMT
#2275
Because Ve realized that Hf is pushing bullshit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:01 GMT
#2294
Hf stop stealing my writing style.

Only scum steals stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:04 GMT
#2299
Love how nobody cares about the second lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:13 GMT
#2314
On November 06 2014 05:05 ritoky wrote:
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On November 06 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Love how nobody cares about the second lynch.


?????? I spent the entire day trying to dig you out from a pile of shit and you sat there digging in the opposite direction.


Appreciate you trying. The people deciding it don't care so it's mostly just us.

If I've got an opportunity to get out of it then I'm all ears. But I just don't see it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:18 GMT
#2322
On November 06 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:05 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Love how nobody cares about the second lynch.


?????? I spent the entire day trying to dig you out from a pile of shit and you sat there digging in the opposite direction.


Appreciate you trying. The people deciding it don't care so it's mostly just us.

If I've got an opportunity to get out of it then I'm all ears. But I just don't see it.


Try to convince people that a) jaybrundage is scum or b) your abilities are more useful than his if you are both town.


I don't have any powers.

I can talk about job later though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:19 GMT
#2323
Jb*

Stupid phone.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#2331
On November 06 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.


No, I just didn't get a second power.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#2334
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


The whole "Hf lie" thing hinges on me going back in time after seeing a scummy post, marking it as null, and then re-seeing it later and scum reading lt for it after I already had a reason to vote him.

Also, if a bunch of people have said the same thing as I have to some degree, why is it that me saying it makes me scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#2336
On November 06 2014 05:46 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.


No, I just didn't get a second power.


Is your first power still available for use today or has it evaporated?


I would assume it would have evaporated after day 1 since it was listed as my day 1 power. It doesn't matter though because I didn't make a choice.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 21:13 GMT
#2342
Ve, for you to think that risk and me are both mafia means that I was bussing him for no reason while he was pushing my counter wagon in the gladiate.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 21:23 GMT
#2344
On November 06 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ve, for you to think that risk and me are both mafia means that I was bussing him for no reason while he was pushing my counter wagon in the gladiate.


that's what he thinks for me and lt briefly too so duh


That doesn't make him mafia any more than it does Ve.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 21:30 GMT
#2346
I'm probably going to unvote risk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 23:25 GMT
#2357
I never voted Lt because of the list.

I'll even quote the post I used as my reasoning when I get home.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 23:26 GMT
#2358
Hf if Oats is your partner claim now.

Otherwise I'm pushing him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:20 GMT
#2392
On November 06 2014 08:27 jaybrundage wrote:
@OWS I believe I asked you for why you thought LT was mafia. HF posted the list. And i guess you never responded? Also can you respond to the questions i posed to you last night.


Are you fucking serious?

I've been saying the same shit on repeat for the past three days and you STILL have no idea why I voted Lt?

Are you actually mafia? Are you deliberately ignoring me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:23 GMT
#2393
I love how Holyflare isn't even here. He's been pushing my wagon since yesterday and doesn't even give enough of a fuck to see everything finished.

Oats is still doing nothing, so even though he's been around and has clearly been reading, he finds the thread boring and lets people duke it out without bothering to stop any of it. He hasn't given a single reason to be on my wagon and he's a likely mafia hit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:25 GMT
#2396
I love how you're the one calling me a dick when you berate me in every single game you join.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:28 GMT
#2398
Of course you don't. Wouldn't want to be seen as a hypocrite.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:33 GMT
#2400
On November 06 2014 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 10:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Of course you don't. Wouldn't want to be seen as a hypocrite.

See,
dick.


You've called me bad in just about every single game we've been in and you're acting like me getting pissed off is completely unfounded.

Seriously consider checking Oats or something if you have a DT role or something. I refuse to believe that he's being this obtuse unintentionally.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:42 GMT
#2402
I just looked at Misder's filter and I can't remember why I townread him ever. He hasn't really done much of anything and all of his lynch targets have been spectacularly safe.

Then there's the alternate bandwagon he tried to push on Lt's lynch day. I can kill him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:48 GMT
#2406
On November 06 2014 10:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Of course you don't. Wouldn't want to be seen as a hypocrite.

See,
dick.


You've called me bad in just about every single game we've been in and you're acting like me getting pissed off is completely unfounded.

Seriously consider checking Oats or something if you have a DT role or something. I refuse to believe that he's being this obtuse unintentionally.

I dont understand.

I dont want to play with you this game because its not enjoyable to see you continually whine and complain.

I think both of you are town.



You berate me every single time we end up in a game together and NOW you don't want to be around me when I call you on it?

K bro. K.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:57 GMT
#2409
I'm not surprised you want me dead. I got tunneled and played terribly this game and got really pissed off and a bunch of other stuff. A bunch of people have been shitting on me and ignoring me all game and I'm not happy about it. I don't even have a power I can use to convince people is important and I wound up dying early because of stuff I had no opportunity to control.

It looks like you're tearing into me at a really opportune time so I don't know if you're scum or if you're legitimately mad. You don't post enough for me to sort you so coming out of the woodwork and saying "I don't like you" is a bullshit excuse for killing me when you bring it out at the last second.

Also, I'm tired of being called bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 01:57 GMT
#2410
Deadline is in an hour. It's fine.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:04 GMT
#2417
On November 06 2014 10:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 10:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:27 jaybrundage wrote:
@OWS I believe I asked you for why you thought LT was mafia. HF posted the list. And i guess you never responded? Also can you respond to the questions i posed to you last night.


Are you fucking serious?

I've been saying the same shit on repeat for the past three days and you STILL have no idea why I voted Lt?

Are you actually mafia? Are you deliberately ignoring me?

If you have been saying the same things to reply to a concern. But no one thinks what you have been saying make any sense. Then rephrase it. Explain it differently. Don't just try to show what the definition of insanity is.

Oat's drop in activity is pretty concerning. I liked his day 1 alot better.


I never voted Lt because of his list. I voted Lt because I was sure that killing both Lt and Circumstance would produce at least one scum.

I never should have talked about the list. There was no way for me to parse through it properly during rush at work, but I got too excited when I saw some scummy-ass ninja vote pop up out of nowhere because that's easy information to process quickly. It's not even an important plot point because I never voted Lt for it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:05 GMT
#2420
On November 06 2014 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 10:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not surprised you want me dead. I got tunneled and played terribly this game and got really pissed off and a bunch of other stuff. A bunch of people have been shitting on me and ignoring me all game and I'm not happy about it. I don't even have a power I can use to convince people is important and I wound up dying early because of stuff I had no opportunity to control.

It looks like you're tearing into me at a really opportune time so I don't know if you're scum or if you're legitimately mad. You don't post enough for me to sort you so coming out of the woodwork and saying "I don't like you" is a bullshit excuse for killing me when you bring it out at the last second.

Also, I'm tired of being called bad.

Dont be bad.

I dont know what you mean.
You asked why I wanted to lynch you.
I answered.

err yeah.

Especially since its between you and Jay, who from my very bad memory is doing useful things and looks really townie.
I understand if its between like 15 people, but its only between 2. It doesnt take much to tip one way or the other.


Because you've been sitting around doing nothing. I've actually been trying to make stuff happen in between my bouts of insanity and you just sat around and went "yeah fuck Obi" when the lynch was already sealed. It's sketchy as fuck.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:06 GMT
#2422
Meh I don't even see the point in pushing this Oats thing too hard.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:08 GMT
#2427
Too late, dickitude activated.

Get some.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:10 GMT
#2429
Let's cfd onto Hf while he's not here.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:13 GMT
#2436
On November 06 2014 11:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 11:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:59 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:27 jaybrundage wrote:
@OWS I believe I asked you for why you thought LT was mafia. HF posted the list. And i guess you never responded? Also can you respond to the questions i posed to you last night.


Are you fucking serious?

I've been saying the same shit on repeat for the past three days and you STILL have no idea why I voted Lt?

Are you actually mafia? Are you deliberately ignoring me?

If you have been saying the same things to reply to a concern. But no one thinks what you have been saying make any sense. Then rephrase it. Explain it differently. Don't just try to show what the definition of insanity is.

Oat's drop in activity is pretty concerning. I liked his day 1 alot better.


I never voted Lt because of his list. I voted Lt because I was sure that killing both Lt and Circumstance would produce at least one scum.

I never should have talked about the list. There was no way for me to parse through it properly during rush at work, but I got too excited when I saw some scummy-ass ninja vote pop up out of nowhere because that's easy information to process quickly. It's not even an important plot point because I never voted Lt for it.

If I recalled correctly. It was that you had no idea of who to vote. Settled on LT. and then later used that list post as why you now totally knew LT was mafia. Even tho the List post was a couple hours old at that point.

If you do end up turning up as town. Sorry dude : /


It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:13 GMT
#2438
Watch me flip some crazy shit like mole or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:29 GMT
#2445
For what it's worth, be really suspicious of the people voting jb. Everyone knew who was getting lynched today. They all knew I was going to flip no matter what happened because, if nothing else, he had gladiate and I didn't get any powers.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:32 GMT
#2447
How's that paint coming?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:36 GMT
#2455
On November 06 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How's that paint coming?


why would i even start it when i think you're mafia?


Oh aren't you in for a surprise.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:38 GMT
#2456
I'm tempted to tell people to lynch/shoot Holyflare just so I know he's going to make my apology paint instead of him just being mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:44 GMT
#2463
I don't even know how I got the idea of being a mole in my head, but I will be upset if that's actually the case.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:48 GMT
#2467
Because he's probably getting modkilled or something.

I don't know. I'm not actually paying attention anymore.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:51 GMT
#2471
Of course it doesn't. Fuck facts who needs those.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:55 GMT
#2475
I'm still here.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:58 GMT
#2478
I love how you think I'm pulling the wool over your eyes as I lay on my death bed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:59 GMT
#2482
Chill out slut I already did it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 02:59 GMT
#2485
On November 06 2014 11:59 Holyflare wrote:
shit could obi really be town?????????


Wow.

Sure hope you're a good artist.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 06 2014 03:08 GMT
#2495
On November 04 2014 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
If you flip town i will make a new thread saying I'm bad and i apologise sure.


gg
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:15 GMT
#3461
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:17 GMT
#3464
On November 12 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


NO APOLOGY THREAD FOR YOU


You are a disgusting human being.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:21 GMT
#3469
If I ever get tunneled like that again I'm just going to omgus as hard as I possibly can.

I won't even care if whoever is doing it flips town. Never again.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:28 GMT
#3483
What were my powers going to be?

Everybody got cool shit but me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:30 GMT
#3489
On November 12 2014 12:28 Damdred wrote:
I didn't get cool shit obi i got stuff that got me easily scum read lol, i should of just let everthing go away besides d1 power


You were obviously town. I called you town like early day 1 before you even realized people were pushing bullshit on you.

Why did you vote me over jay?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:32 GMT
#3495
On November 12 2014 12:31 Alakaslam wrote:
I can't even remember what you did that was "So Scummy" anyway


Holyflare tunneled the fuck out of me and not a single townie bothered to read the accusations.

It was lying, supposedly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:34 GMT
#3498
On November 12 2014 12:32 GlowingBear wrote:
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On November 12 2014 12:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:28 Damdred wrote:
I didn't get cool shit obi i got stuff that got me easily scum read lol, i should of just let everthing go away besides d1 power


You were obviously town. I called you town like early day 1 before you even realized people were pushing bullshit on you.

Why did you vote me over jay?


No fucking way.
The notes shit was too bad


The notes shit did not mean a thing and everybody that thought it did should feel bad for thinking it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:37 GMT
#3508
On November 12 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 12:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:31 Alakaslam wrote:
I can't even remember what you did that was "So Scummy" anyway


Holyflare tunneled the fuck out of me and not a single townie bothered to read the accusations.

It was lying, supposedly.


yeah, but you refused to get behind me and my accusations of jay, you just accepted it was between two towns....you didn't even go for my who has more useful powers argument....idk, kinda buried yourself a bit.


Kita explained this in detail in the obs. I'm well aware.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:39 GMT
#3511
On November 12 2014 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On November 12 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:28 Damdred wrote:
I didn't get cool shit obi i got stuff that got me easily scum read lol, i should of just let everthing go away besides d1 power


You were obviously town. I called you town like early day 1 before you even realized people were pushing bullshit on you.

Why did you vote me over jay?


No fucking way.
The notes shit was too bad


The notes shit did not mean a thing and everybody that thought it did should feel bad for thinking it.


Come on. Someone makes a town case (his only case at the moment), says he copy pasted from his notes, gets immediately called out and required to post rest of notes, refuses to do, then posts notes with a completely different format from the town case.

Like lol.

Anyway, I ended townreading damdred. Which got me shot


It doesn't matter. It's not relevant to the game. >.>
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:45 GMT
#3526
On November 12 2014 12:42 Blazinghand wrote:
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On November 12 2014 12:41 Holyflare wrote:
If i was town i don't think i would have got past his notes thing either and I'd probably had lynched him unfortunately


I got past it*! The fact that he was lying about his notes was a towntell imo

*: note, I got past the notes thing, which was a towntell.. I wanted to lynch OWS for unrelated reasons.


You always want to lynch me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:50 GMT
#3531
On November 12 2014 12:48 Blazinghand wrote:
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On November 12 2014 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:41 Holyflare wrote:
If i was town i don't think i would have got past his notes thing either and I'd probably had lynched him unfortunately


I got past it*! The fact that he was lying about his notes was a towntell imo

*: note, I got past the notes thing, which was a towntell.. I wanted to lynch OWS for unrelated reasons.


You always want to lynch me.


I defended you right up until you attacked me

true fact, I said you were bad, not scum, then you're like "bh is mean therefore he is scum" and I was like wow, that logic is so contrived OWS must be scum


You said I was scum because I said stuff like "I don't understand."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:00 GMT
#3537
On November 12 2014 12:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On November 12 2014 12:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 12 2014 12:41 Holyflare wrote:
If i was town i don't think i would have got past his notes thing either and I'd probably had lynched him unfortunately


I got past it*! The fact that he was lying about his notes was a towntell imo

*: note, I got past the notes thing, which was a towntell.. I wanted to lynch OWS for unrelated reasons.


You always want to lynch me.


I defended you right up until you attacked me

true fact, I said you were bad, not scum, then you're like "bh is mean therefore he is scum" and I was like wow, that logic is so contrived OWS must be scum


You said I was scum because I said stuff like "I don't understand."


Also I'm going to point out that this happened before I ever scumread you.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 06:29 GMT
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On November 12 2014 15:15 geript wrote:
HF is really easy to tell as town because of the difference in how and why he pushes. I hope other people pick up on this.


I kind of picked up on this, but it was only after I was dead.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 21:32 GMT
#3608
Btw what's a dryjnah?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#3624
On November 13 2014 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a misspelled reference to the Malazan Book of the Fallen series.


That sounds boss.

I might look those books up.
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