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On November 05 2014 13:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 10:50 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been trying to focus who we should be normal lynching today
Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 11:14 jaybrundage wrote: You have been here. You have been following the thread. But the fact that your not pushing yout reads or delivering the content you promised makes you pretty red. ##UnVote: ##Vote Risk.nuke focusing on the lynch for the day -> arrives at the lurker everyone is defaulting to. this guy is so much more likely scum than OWS imo. the fact that literally 0 people are defending risk is an indicator that he is probably town. there are a lot of strangely absent people and no one outside of the same 5 to 6 people are making reads; this is a double lynch day, where the hell are people at?
Yes but what if the lurker is mafia and nobody on the mafia side is around to defend or cba to talk out of turn in fear or is just bussing for credit. Lots of options there.
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Circumstance may actually be a better choice all things considered though. Gb nk, the excuses in game when things get super narrowed down instead of pre game. Constant afking.
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On November 05 2014 13:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 13:25 ritoky wrote:On November 05 2014 10:50 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been trying to focus who we should be normal lynching today
On November 05 2014 11:14 jaybrundage wrote: You have been here. You have been following the thread. But the fact that your not pushing yout reads or delivering the content you promised makes you pretty red. ##UnVote: ##Vote Risk.nuke focusing on the lynch for the day -> arrives at the lurker everyone is defaulting to. this guy is so much more likely scum than OWS imo. the fact that literally 0 people are defending risk is an indicator that he is probably town. there are a lot of strangely absent people and no one outside of the same 5 to 6 people are making reads; this is a double lynch day, where the hell are people at? Yes but what if the lurker is mafia and nobody on the mafia side is around to defend or cba to talk out of turn in fear or is just bussing for credit. Lots of options there.
i gave my vote to you, so honestly my opinion doesn't matter much in regards to the standard lynch today. however, i still think circumstance and a few others are better lynch targets today.
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I don't understand why you gave him your vote when he's just going to keep it on me no matter what.
You're so diametrically opposed to him as it stands.
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On November 05 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't understand why you gave him your vote when he's just going to keep it on me no matter what.
You're so diametrically opposed to him as it stands.
He doesn't sacrifice the secondary lynch vote....
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HolyFlare, I'm curious which particular things in my Damdred case apply to a lot of people, and who those people are.
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On November 05 2014 13:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't understand why you gave him your vote when he's just going to keep it on me no matter what.
You're so diametrically opposed to him as it stands. He doesn't sacrifice the secondary lynch vote....
Oh. I forgot.
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On November 05 2014 13:42 Seuss wrote: HolyFlare, I'm curious which particular things in my Damdred case apply to a lot of people, and who those people are.
The first part of your case is redundant because you say his list is something scummy to do but he elaborated it fine Thereby that shouldn't be in your post at all.
The only thing that has merit is the extension for self preservation which i mentioned day 1 but since then haven't totally felt bad about after his cases and reads post.
You say he pushed off lt which was scummy but confirmed town gb also gave the same reason for not scum reading lt, obi who you think will probably flip town also did not want to lynch lt and only voted him to consolidate. A lot of people in the final minutes were actively trying to switch the wagon that i remember, some of them being town too.
Slam, ritoky, misder, can't remember who else but quite a few others.
I've seen 3-4 people talk about nk speculation now so irrelevant and when he's called you out for picking on him and not the others you say that's scummy too so he's justified in his "slinging mud" (which isn't really slinging mud because it's true). He could have kept completely quiet about his power entirely and nobody would know wtf is going on when their votes start to not count at deadline. He didn't so it's not scummy..
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That extra 25 hours has made the game feel really slow
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I mean a lot of your case holds more merit if nuke flips town which i honestly have 0% faith in any read on him which makes you look very iffy imo for making the read that people are switching off of mafia onto risk before he's even flipped. Looks like tmi to me.
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I don't see the same value in what Damdred has posted in terms of cases and reads, and I don't write off one person's scumminess just because others have also been scummy, but I'll give you that there wasn't much reason for him to reveal his automatic power as scum.
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Here is my list of reads on where I am currently at:
OWS - null, creeping toward town - He made a crap tier read and his excuses and stuff regarding the lie that HF caught him in are not very good for him. However, his play this phase has seemed genuine and townie; and JayB is just way worse.
Misder - slight scum lean - He did some weird crap at the end of the LT lynch where he was flippy-floppy like crazy (esp with that vote multiplier ability), but he is the one who pointed out circ's activity in the hearthstone thread vs this one; so that's kinda townie. this phase is completely underwhelming and such little content that i have nothing to go on to update this.
ritoky - town
risk.nuke - null, beginning to inch toward town - afk mostly, antagonistic and obstinate when here; 0 people defending bunch of people piling on him might mean he is town.
jrkirby - slight town lean - Seems to be thinking critically about the game, pushing people for answers. Only thing that bugs me is sometimes I don't understand his thought process, and he has a weird unvote on LT where he says LT gave some "good content" ....LT never gave good content.
Seuss - Town - I like his reasoning process, he needs to get out of the tunnel a bit on damdred and give reads on the rest of the game; but pretty townie mindset in general.
VE - scum lean - He doesnt seem to have the passion, conviction, or level of commitment to the game and his reads that VE town normally has from my past experiences. Also, like circ, I saw him forego the thread for video mafia on many occaisions. But the #1 thing that bugged me was his reads post right after the lynch. He was pushing tons of credit for the lynch toward slam in particular, while short selling people who had a lot more involvement.
Oats - no clue - can't read him, played with him a few times and he is either deep in the tunnel of completely disengaged from the game as both alignments; he has elected the latter this game. Huge dropoff in activity today though.
Alakaslam - slight town - was solid town until that weird VE read spooked me on him and also his dropoff in activity.
Damdred - probably town - he pointed out circumstance using misread instead of read early on, which I still think is a scum slip; also his claim seemed townie to me. little odd in the middle parts though.
liancourt - null - left no impression on me, was amazed when I saw a 7 page filter. he is a filter target for me for later.
Circumstance - scum - active in other threads, making endless excuses, afk, and this:
On October 31 2014 12:18 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 12:13 Damdred wrote:On October 31 2014 12:11 Circumstance wrote:On October 31 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote:On October 31 2014 12:07 Circumstance wrote:On October 31 2014 12:05 Damdred wrote: Circumstance what do you think about the discussion so far If ritoky's picture of GB (which I presume stands for GlowingBear) is accurate, then being Jewish, I kinda have to be suspicious of him. That made me laugh, so what about the other prevalant conversation especially the scum read that's being discussed It's Day 1, you're gonna have to be a little more specific than "the scumread". Do you mean the joke thing? Because I've never seen any particular differentiation on that in my previous online Mafia experiences. well what do you think about glowings post then? I think it's jumping to conclusions a bit quickly - the game had a clearly defined starting time, so if you didn't post pretty quickly, you'd look suspicious in that you were laying low. Seems like an innocent misread.
which I still think is a scum slip.
Holyflare - Town - very obvious, if you can't see it; you're blinded by dislike for the player.
jaybrundage - leaning mafia - already posted on him, read my filter.
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On November 05 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote: I mean a lot of your case holds more merit if nuke flips town which i honestly have 0% faith in any read on him which makes you look very iffy imo for making the read that people are switching off of mafia onto risk before he's even flipped. Looks like tmi to me.
It's not so much onto risk.nuke specifically as away from LordTolkien (who we know was scum). It's possible risk.nuke is scum but given LordTolkien's preferences as to his alternative that seems less likely than it otherwise might be.
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What is so weird?
I had a lot of work and have taken on another game in a sense.
VE totes caught risk nuke
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On November 05 2014 14:48 Alakaslam wrote: What is so weird?
I had a lot of work and have taken on another game in a sense.
VE totes caught risk nuke
Caught him doing what?
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I feel like the game kind of just hinges on one of these flips between circ/risk before making the game very obvious
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On November 05 2014 13:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You know what's really weird?
Oats ninja voted. That means he's paying attention but he clearly doesn't care enough to post in the thread. He's happy to let it stagnate. Oats is the scummiest scum who ever scummed like anyone who reads through his filter day1 and thinks he has an interest in finding scum is so dead wrong, his only interest is looking like he's contributing without contributing.
I don't really agree with your read on VE ritoky, he felt townie to me during day1. A lot less so now but that's mostly because he put his vote on me and disappeared and I'm not ready to lynch him before he gets back and updates his stance.
I think misder is suspicious. Particularly his actions just before the lynch but I wouldn't lynch him just yet.
Why is circumstance the only person who can see that oats is doing jack day1?
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On November 05 2014 13:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You know what's really weird?
Oats ninja voted. That means he's paying attention but he clearly doesn't care enough to post in the thread. He's happy to let it stagnate. I voted cause I thought it was lynch time and I didnt have the time to get onto my computer. I am reading the thread and it is boring as absolute shit.
On November 05 2014 18:07 risk.nuke wrote: Oats is the scummiest scum who ever scummed like anyone who reads through his filter day1 and thinks he has an interest in finding scum is so dead wrong, his only interest is looking like he's contributing without contributing.
I don't really agree with your read on VE ritoky, he felt townie to me during day1. A lot less so now but that's mostly because he put his vote on me and disappeared and I'm not ready to lynch him before he gets back and updates his stance.
I think misder is suspicious. Particularly his actions just before the lynch but I wouldn't lynch him just yet.
Why is circumstance the only person who can see that oats is doing jack day1? What do you think risk? Why dont you try and lynch me. GO AHEAD. that would make the game interesting.
At this point, Im just waiting for all the lurkers to die.
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