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On November 05 2014 08:20 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:16 ritoky wrote:On November 05 2014 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I care, I want to lynch oats. None of you seem to care though. You're all super content doing nothing aswell and lynching me because I was busy day1.
What did you expect from me, a massive case. Most of what was said day 1 was useless and the rest is inconclusive. I want to talk and discuss things, I want to hear your thought and I have no problem giving you mine. This will actually give me information I can use. If you want to help me, you can start by telling me what you think of oats and jrjkirby who's being fishy as hell today. there's 106 pages of other people's content in the thread, and multiple people have simply asked you to give a list of reads. i am asking as well. give a list of reads on people please. If digging into 106 pages is so easy, why don't you do it first. You have done nothing day2.
Antagonizing people isn't finding scum. If you go back a few pages you'll find me telling you why I think jayb is more suspect than OWS. But hey, reading the thread too hard apparently.
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On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.
It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass.
I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game.
Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town.
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On November 05 2014 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.
It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town.
If HF is mafia, then please explain why he was spamming the thread to stay firm on LT. And how do his actions surrounding lynching a mafia make him in any way more mafia than the other two?
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On November 05 2014 08:48 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.
It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town. If HF is mafia, then please explain why he was spamming the thread to stay firm on LT. And how do his actions surrounding lynching a mafia make him in any way more mafia than the other two? He would be bussing? I don't read Oats and VE town, because of there actions surrounding the lynch. Rather I read them town by how they are posting.
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@Seuss Regarding your Dramdred case:
What do you think of his GB case? It was his recent big case. Why did you choose to exclude it from your case?
Also I find it odd you say townies don't have a self preservation mind set. A town only knows his alignment. One of a townies biggest job is to prove there own townieness, and by extension not get lynched.
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On November 05 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:48 ritoky wrote:On November 05 2014 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.
It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town. If HF is mafia, then please explain why he was spamming the thread to stay firm on LT. And how do his actions surrounding lynching a mafia make him in any way more mafia than the other two? He would be bussing? I don't read Oats and VE town, because of there actions surrounding the lynch. Rather I read them town by how they are posting.
I legitimately am beginning to think you're mafia. For some reason you are valuing "how they are posting" over lynching mafia. That makes 0 sense to me from a town mindset.
I already made a case on why I think you were soft pushing LT and didn't actually do crap all to help the lynch, the wagon was primarily formed by myself and HF. To which you were trying to discredit HF for saying he was a big force behind that lynch happening, now you don't value the fact that he was one of the people spamming the thread to stay strong on LT.
But beyond that, you claimed Jaraxxas and challeneged someone to be sent to oblivion. Presumably your TOP scum read. Now OWS has basically rolled over and died since he seems to think you're town. But you have done literally nothing to push people to vote for someone who was apparently SO SCUMMY to you that you challenged him to a 1v1. You are almost talking to him as if he is confirmed town. If you are not going to push this scum read on OWS in the slightest, then WHY DID YOU 1v1 HIM?
Maybe I am just in the tunnel a bit here, but I cannot see this guy as more town than OWS at this point, not even close.
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On November 05 2014 08:29 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:20 jrkirby wrote:On November 05 2014 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I care, I want to lynch oats. None of you seem to care though. You're all super content doing nothing aswell and lynching me because I was busy day1.
What did you expect from me, a massive case. Most of what was said day 1 was useless and the rest is inconclusive. I want to talk and discuss things, I want to hear your thought and I have no problem giving you mine. This will actually give me information I can use. If you want to help me, you can start by telling me what you think of oats and jrjkirby who's being fishy as hell today. Fishy as hell = pushing my case on you. What did you expect from me, a massive case.
Yes, that's what I expect. You said you were a good player, right? We were having a discussion, I pressured you and you ran away. Why didn't you answer me? Then you finally come back and then just tries to put down your vote on me. Jay http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=104#2080And oats is still not posting and showing no interest in finding scum. I said why I thought Oats was townie. Your statement can be applied to you as well. If you think Oats is scum why aren't you pushing for his lynch. From your post it seems like your lynching based purely on activity. Looking over him surprised he hasn't mentioned a a lynch candidate yet. Duly noted.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2014 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 05 2014 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it.
It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town.
Are you really talking about the same boring shit again and again? Your thoughts don't even align with any thought process that i can see and you are the one just constantly flinging shit at me despite lynching mafia, stopping wagon switches off of mafia, putting you onto someone you felt so strongly was mafia, doing the most towny shit ever and telling you i am literally CONFIRMED town with another you are still saying useless crap like "yeh i want him to be mafia!"
On November 04 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote: Ok whatever. Risk said he couldn't post till sunday and now it's past monday and he gave no insight whatsoever to the game. Circumstances ninja vote looks increasingly like a "i don't want to die so plonk it on leading wagon" vote which makes him pretty much a coin flip.
On November 04 2014 12:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote: Ok whatever. Risk said he couldn't post till sunday and now it's past monday and he gave no insight whatsoever to the game. Circumstances ninja vote looks increasingly like a "i don't want to die so plonk it on leading wagon" vote which makes him pretty much a coin flip. Well i say coin flip but gb dying and continual afking and not even refutinf gbs case etc and someone said he posted in other threads probably makes him mafia too
You still haven't responded or even commented on this but when i do something like that to you, you flip your shit and call me mafia all over again rofl. I responded to your a, b, c points more than adequately and you still throw accusations at me despite not saying why they are from a mafia point of view.
Through all the yelling you keep doing there are 0 points you make that make me mafia.
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On November 04 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote: It's really really really weird that you are even questioning my alignment so randomly instead of everyone else in the thread like this when in your mind I've only lynched mafia and now put you onto someone who you also think is mafia.
On November 04 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: What you're implying is that as mafia i decided to use a power and hope to draw in silly people and then claim it because......? In the hope to do...? You're saying that townies aren't stupid and are analytical and won't give up their vote to a random player but then you're also saying that mafia holyflare counts on people being retarded and giving up their votes. Your line of thought is incredibly non existent.
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On November 05 2014 09:11 jaybrundage wrote: @Seuss Regarding your Dramdred case:
What do you think of his GB case? It was his recent big case. Why did you choose to exclude it from your case?
Also I find it odd you say townies don't have a self preservation mind set. A town only knows his alignment. One of a townies biggest job is to prove there own townieness, and by extension not get lynched.
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see a big GB case, just a lot of "this isn't GB's town meta" prior to LordTolkien's flip. The whole GB thing was pretty OMGUS.
A town's biggest job is to hunt scum, and by extension look townie, and by extension not get lynched. There are no awards for being the last town standing in a town loss. Damdred's reaction to coming under a small amount of pressure wasn't to try to hunt scum, push the game forward, or do anything townie, it was to immediately attempt to use his power as a get out of jail free card. That's not the act of someone thinking about what's best for Town, that's someone who's looking out for #1.
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Sorta like someone who pardoned themself right?
Everyone speculated to a small degree on the nk you only scum read me for it others asked obi and jay to claim I only got scum read
You ignore me actually making two cases to push the game forward and GB townreading me at the end
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On November 05 2014 09:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote: It's really really really weird that you are even questioning my alignment so randomly instead of everyone else in the thread like this when in your mind I've only lynched mafia and now put you onto someone who you also think is mafia. Show nested quote +On November 04 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: What you're implying is that as mafia i decided to use a power and hope to draw in silly people and then claim it because......? In the hope to do...? You're saying that townies aren't stupid and are analytical and won't give up their vote to a random player but then you're also saying that mafia holyflare counts on people being retarded and giving up their votes. Your line of thought is incredibly non existent. Your under no pressure to be lynched why drag this up. I was explaining to Obi wan my read on you and why I did what I did.
To respond: I said anyone that is thinking critically would not give away their vote to an unknown identity.
How you went about using your power. Doesn't make any sense to me as either alignment.
I thought your ABC post was scummy. I said as much. Part of it was misunderstanding your power.
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First sentense was sarcastic joke if it came across wrong
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On November 05 2014 10:03 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 09:36 Holyflare wrote:On November 04 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote: It's really really really weird that you are even questioning my alignment so randomly instead of everyone else in the thread like this when in your mind I've only lynched mafia and now put you onto someone who you also think is mafia. On November 04 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: What you're implying is that as mafia i decided to use a power and hope to draw in silly people and then claim it because......? In the hope to do...? You're saying that townies aren't stupid and are analytical and won't give up their vote to a random player but then you're also saying that mafia holyflare counts on people being retarded and giving up their votes. Your line of thought is incredibly non existent. Your under no pressure to be lynched why drag this up. I was explaining to Obi wan my read on you and why I did what I did. To respond: I said anyone that is thinking critically would not give away their vote to an unknown identity. How you went about using your power. Doesn't make any sense to me as either alignment. I thought your ABC post was scummy. I said as much. Part of it was misunderstanding your power.
Tries to dismiss first half of case by saying "I wasn't here"; then turns around and accuses people on the grounds that they weren't here.
Calls pretty much the most obvious town in the game mafia repeatedly.
Ignores the 2nd half of the case against him.
Doesn't even attempt to push a scum read on someone he had such a strong scum read on that he challenged him to a 1v1.
This guy is clearly the better option for Oblivion.
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On November 05 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote: Sorta like someone who pardoned themself right?
Everyone speculated to a small degree on the nk you only scum read me for it others asked obi and jay to claim I only got scum read
You ignore me actually making two cases to push the game forward and GB townreading me at the end
By "Everyone" you mean you and jaybrundage. If someone else commented on it I missed it.
I don't care that GB read you as town. He's dead, he hasn't seen anything you've done since, he can't comment on how that might or might not have changed his opinion.
I'm not impressed by your cases. You were scum reading GlowingBear most of yesterday but a key point of your jrkirby case was how he tried/failed to get a lynch on GlowingBear going. The whole thing reads like someone who has to BS a term paper under pressure because you go right back to calling GlowingBear scum the rest of the day, which again was pretty much entirely 'this isn't his meta'. Your giant jrkirby case was basically a non-factor up until you tried to swing yesterday's lynch away from LordTolkien onto risk.nuke or jrkirby.
Pretty darn sure you're scum.
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@Seuss could you please give reads/opinion of which of OWS and JayB we should cast into oblivion?
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Holyflare what do you think about Circumcision?
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My case on GB was pretty good showed 5 games or so compared them and even GB said it was a good case.
Either way your case on me boils down to don't like how I used my power, don't like my cases and I talked about something other people did as well.
This is not a good case I'll give it a deeper response when I get on my computer
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@JayB in fact, this is how sure I am HF is town
#Put your faith in the Light
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