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Seems fun enough, and I don't think I'll survive long. That edit rule will probably get me mod killed since I have this habit of using the edit button too much.
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On October 09 2014 02:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
If I'm the one hiding back the game from starting earlier then we can start, but I figure my activity will be nowhere near what it would be if we started after.
Well, it's not really about when we start as it is if we get enough players to start. I don't think we have enough yet to get a decent game going. It might take enough time for it to fill up that it'll work out in everyone's favor.
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Wow already page 6 here? Yall spamming greatly. Also miller is such a terror role. It's like the role you manually assign someone because they made an enemy out of you in a previous game.
"I can't mod kill you, so I'm going to make sure you will never have fun in this game" is the definition of that role
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On October 10 2014 01:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
I mean basically whatever team gets Wave wins, hue.
If that's how you feel about 'meta' reads I'm fine with questions not being asked in this thread. I mean, Wave is a high priority target for either team, so I don't think it would be auto win for his team. Also, I played mafia for a good ~year before wave started playing, so don't count me out =P Although I'm fairly certain wave was better than I was in our respective "primes".
Basically, if the veterans aren't dead by the second day/night, you can be sure at least one of them is Mafia. I got this game solved already. gg yo
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On October 10 2014 03:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
but looks like the scum won't have to worry cuz he'll be modkilled for edits =P
Please dude, I can't help it with my editing! Please don't make me double post
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That pizza looks pretty amazing except for the pepperoni
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On October 11 2014 09:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 09:24 Alaric wrote:
I thought we agreed on lynching Wave?
Actually that might be a decent idea. A learning experience of sorts: either he doesn't get lynched, and I'll know what to emulate if I want to live if I ever get accused, or he gets lynched, and we know what not to say if he flips scum, or how not to defend oneself if he flips town.
I'd have said "how to recognise town" but noob scum could copy his defense too in that case, which would be misleading.
More seriously, though, how do these games actually start, apart from meta stuff? There's usually hints like noise or facial expression to pick up in IRL variants. And seeing how well the whole "mass claim" strat worked out in the LoL Mafia Wave hosted and made us host, I wouldn't want to start by imitating that.
Do we just accuse somebody at random and try to read how he defends himself/people talk about him? People have different styles and preferences. Early D1 is awkward to start, so it's always just general bullshit. Some people like to participate, others like to let it settle and join in on real discussion afterwards. The whole time you should be trying to look for anything that might be shady (and it's a learning experience to figure out what that actually means), and see what you can do to further your assumptions, speculations, knowledge, etc.
Pretty sure Alaric is just playing you. He talked about how much he plays mafia in real life, and he probably knows how day 1 works fairly well. I vote for him to by lynch target #1! Even real life games have fairly random accusations, but I do agree it might be easier with body language tells for people who seem overly nervous
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I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ
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On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment?
It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQ
The Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way.
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Then again, honestly, I don't think he's scum. I just think he is not pointing out anything useful.
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On October 11 2014 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:41 ketchup wrote:
Then again, honestly, I don't think he's scum. I just think he is not pointing out anything useful. Well then neither are you.
I disagree with that completely. If you think Alzadar was WIFOM with his post about veteran players, then you should agree with me in regards to what he has done. He hasn't brought up relevant information about the game played, and is instead looking at out of game situations that don't really have anything to do with the game itself. Can you at least agree that what he did doesn't help town?
On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum?
In actuality, I don't think your post actually did anything. The fact that you want to early vote ghandieagle is also really really odd. Why should I have to have played previously with you to know your intentions? It makes no sense. I look at what I'm seeing right now, and make a decision from there. I really dislike your spoiler too as it is written as if it is outside of the game, but everything posted is IN game.
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On October 11 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum? And what scum are these? Jeff? It's going to take more than a sweeping declarative first post saying "vote jeff" to make me want to vote anyone right now. It shouldn't. Sonib what make you of the yung ketchup and his seeming absolute refusal to take any real stance whatsoever?
What makes you think I have no real stance? I am just testing the waters, and seeing who responds in what way. I find that much more interesting than pretending that color coding anything helps anyone in game 
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On October 11 2014 10:48 Alzadar wrote:That's what I'm asking, are there any kind of useful deductions we can make at this point? p.s. Ghandi, decide if you want Blue or White as your champion. League will decide my vote! Same goes for Wave, first post gets first pick! 
You have to make deductions from post interactions, because making it from out of game information is rarely helpful or relevant to the game.
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On October 11 2014 11:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:56 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum? And what scum are these? Jeff? It's going to take more than a sweeping declarative first post saying "vote jeff" to make me want to vote anyone right now. It shouldn't. Sonib what make you of the yung ketchup and his seeming absolute refusal to take any real stance whatsoever? What makes you think I have no real stance? I am just testing the waters, and seeing who responds in what way. I find that much more interesting than pretending that color coding anything helps anyone in game ^ this basically would have been my response to wave Idk about you wave, but back in my day, we didn't just know who scum were right off the bat. We had to work at it, poke around, dig through trash to figure it out. In all seriousness though, I'm with ketchup on Alzadar's posting. Going so far as to let a league game decide his side? Jeff - why is Wave scum? Wave - why is Jeff scum? ketchup - do you think Wave's color coding is actually scummy? Or are you just calling it distracting to nitpick?
I don't think it's nitpicking. I think it was not something I imagined Wave doing as the first post after game started so I naturally am cautious around it. I admit I have not played with Wave, but I feel that post is 100% questionable, and should be pointed out. This is especially compounded by the fact that it was also a really quick vote on someone. So, I called him out on it.
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On October 11 2014 11:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:12 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 11:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:56 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum? And what scum are these? Jeff? It's going to take more than a sweeping declarative first post saying "vote jeff" to make me want to vote anyone right now. It shouldn't. Sonib what make you of the yung ketchup and his seeming absolute refusal to take any real stance whatsoever? What makes you think I have no real stance? I am just testing the waters, and seeing who responds in what way. I find that much more interesting than pretending that color coding anything helps anyone in game ^ this basically would have been my response to wave Idk about you wave, but back in my day, we didn't just know who scum were right off the bat. We had to work at it, poke around, dig through trash to figure it out. In all seriousness though, I'm with ketchup on Alzadar's posting. Going so far as to let a league game decide his side? Jeff - why is Wave scum? Wave - why is Jeff scum? ketchup - do you think Wave's color coding is actually scummy? Or are you just calling it distracting to nitpick? I don't think it's nitpicking. I think it was not something I imagined Wave doing as the first post after game started so I naturally am cautious around it. I admit I have not played with Wave, but I feel that post is 100% questionable, and should be pointed out. This is especially compounded by the fact that it was also a really quick vote on someone. So, I called him out on it. Don't let the fact that he did something unexpected color your judgement - posting in a mafia game is completely different. Let what he says color your opinion. @Cixah - trying to decide if wave is just being aggressive townie or taking advantage of the lesser experienced crowd to make a bold play. I'm feeling the former is probably correct - he can be a bloodhound when he wants to.
It's not like I already made a decision on him being scum or not. As I mentioned earlier, it was all to see how people react, and how they would respond back to me.
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On October 11 2014 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 11:12 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 11:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:56 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum? And what scum are these? Jeff? It's going to take more than a sweeping declarative first post saying "vote jeff" to make me want to vote anyone right now. It shouldn't. Sonib what make you of the yung ketchup and his seeming absolute refusal to take any real stance whatsoever? What makes you think I have no real stance? I am just testing the waters, and seeing who responds in what way. I find that much more interesting than pretending that color coding anything helps anyone in game ^ this basically would have been my response to wave Idk about you wave, but back in my day, we didn't just know who scum were right off the bat. We had to work at it, poke around, dig through trash to figure it out. In all seriousness though, I'm with ketchup on Alzadar's posting. Going so far as to let a league game decide his side? Jeff - why is Wave scum? Wave - why is Jeff scum? ketchup - do you think Wave's color coding is actually scummy? Or are you just calling it distracting to nitpick? I don't think it's nitpicking. I think it was not something I imagined Wave doing as the first post after game started so I naturally am cautious around it. I admit I have not played with Wave, but I feel that post is 100% questionable, and should be pointed out. This is especially compounded by the fact that it was also a really quick vote on someone. So, I called him out on it. Don't let the fact that he did something unexpected color your judgement - posting in a mafia game is completely different. Let what he says color your opinion. @Cixah - trying to decide if wave is just being aggressive townie or taking advantage of the lesser experienced crowd to make a bold play. I'm feeling the former is probably correct - he can be a bloodhound when he wants to. Bold play plz. I've asked ketchup this multiple times and he hasn't answered my latest post towards him but I like that you actually had some input on what you think my intentions are. Big ol' townpoints for you.
I did respond to it...
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On October 11 2014 11:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:37 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 11:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 11:12 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 11:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:56 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
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Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before?
This is boring so far. I'm bored.
Why aren't people voting for scum? And what scum are these? Jeff? It's going to take more than a sweeping declarative first post saying "vote jeff" to make me want to vote anyone right now. It shouldn't. Sonib what make you of the yung ketchup and his seeming absolute refusal to take any real stance whatsoever? What makes you think I have no real stance? I am just testing the waters, and seeing who responds in what way. I find that much more interesting than pretending that color coding anything helps anyone in game ^ this basically would have been my response to wave Idk about you wave, but back in my day, we didn't just know who scum were right off the bat. We had to work at it, poke around, dig through trash to figure it out. In all seriousness though, I'm with ketchup on Alzadar's posting. Going so far as to let a league game decide his side? Jeff - why is Wave scum? Wave - why is Jeff scum? ketchup - do you think Wave's color coding is actually scummy? Or are you just calling it distracting to nitpick? I don't think it's nitpicking. I think it was not something I imagined Wave doing as the first post after game started so I naturally am cautious around it. I admit I have not played with Wave, but I feel that post is 100% questionable, and should be pointed out. This is especially compounded by the fact that it was also a really quick vote on someone. So, I called him out on it. Don't let the fact that he did something unexpected color your judgement - posting in a mafia game is completely different. Let what he says color your opinion. @Cixah - trying to decide if wave is just being aggressive townie or taking advantage of the lesser experienced crowd to make a bold play. I'm feeling the former is probably correct - he can be a bloodhound when he wants to. Bold play plz. I've asked ketchup this multiple times and he hasn't answered my latest post towards him but I like that you actually had some input on what you think my intentions are. Big ol' townpoints for you. I did respond to it... You responded to this? Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 11:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:54 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:41 ketchup wrote:
Then again, honestly, I don't think he's scum. I just think he is not pointing out anything useful. Well then neither are you. I disagree with that completely. If you think Alzadar was WIFOM with his post about veteran players, then you should agree with me in regards to what he has done. He hasn't brought up relevant information about the game played, and is instead looking at out of game situations that don't really have anything to do with the game itself. Can you at least agree that what he did doesn't help town? On October 11 2014 10:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ketchup wrote:On October 11 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:23 ketchup wrote:
I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ What about the colour coding makes me suspicious, o delicious condiment? It's too try hard sir! I didn't expect that from you, nor do I think it was completely innocent in it's intention. QQThe Alzadar posts so far are actually the most suspicious because it doesn't really help townies at all while pretending to give out information. The games played especially means nothing despite the effort put in to make it seem that way. Elaborate on this, please. You seem to think that 'trying' is inherently scummy and I'm not following. As for your expectations and my intentions, how would you have any idea of either when you haven't played with me before? This is boring so far. I'm bored. Why aren't people voting for scum? In actuality, I don't think your post actually did anything. The fact that you want to early vote ghandieagle is also really really odd. Why should I have to have played previously with you to know your intentions? It makes no sense. I look at what I'm seeing right now, and make a decision from there. I really dislike your spoiler too as it is written as if it is outside of the game, but everything posted is IN game. The point is, if you don't think he's scum, then pointing out the useless stuff he has done serves no purpose whatsoever, similar to his own posting. You said that you didn't 'expect that from me,' meaning that you must have some expectations as to how I play, yet I don't see how you could have any expectations since you don't know how I play. You also said you think my intentions are suspicious. What do you think they are exactly?
I was pretty sure I responded to these with my answers to jcarlsoniv, but I will answer it again.
Do I think Alzadar is scummy? I don't know because it is the first day. He is definitely more suspicious than the other people posting so far. Of course, I was trying to give him the benefit of doubt with my post because he has never played mafia before. I'm not 100% on him being scum, I just really dislike his posts so far.
Why are you trying to argue with me over a point we both know is true. His posts are not/were not helpful. Seeing how many games the participants in this game have played previously is not helpful for town. How else should I address that point? I wanted to see how Alzadar would respond to it, but he really hasn't given me anything.
Do I think your first post was scummy? I don't know, but I do lean towards it being suspicious. So I called you out on it. I don't think it was the worst post ever or anything, but it wasn't great for me. I didn't gain any information from it, and it could have potentially confused people more than anything else. Again, the early voting is odd because it doesn't help you gain any information from anyone in the game. I've already mentioned some of this in my interaction with soniv.
So, some questions of my own:
What makes you so sure GhandiEagle is scum that you voted him that early?
What do you think of Alzadar's posts?
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On October 11 2014 18:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
oh so we decided on one person to vote guilty/inno, I don't just instantly die.
kk
So usually people want to know. Who do you think is scummy so far? What is your vote on Wave about? Is it only because he voted on you first?
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I think Alzadar is just trying to focus on me because I focused on him. I don't think I sound scummy, but people are thinking I do. I hope you reconsider your stand Alzadar if you are actually town
I don't have much in terms of town reads, because I don't think there are too much substantial posts in my views. No one has come out and tried hard to play as townie.
So my reads always have suspicion involved on everyone but myself. Playing paranoid probably won't work well for me QQ.
Wave is trying to lead discussion, but I don't really like it. I think Wave leans townie barely, but I think some of his posts confuse people more than they help.
There's a lot of parroting by Cixah/Alaric, but I don't really think it did anything. Wave "defends" himself mostly by deflecting, but it's not as if anyone has made a good case anyways. At least it is putting effort into the game which is still more townie than the people who haven't been active.
Requizen asking for which roles have been declared is pretty scummy. People don't ask for declared roles in a game where you can filter posts and find it yourself. He has actually posted quite throughout the game, so he must be reading. I don't like the post, and in fact, I will vote for him.
##Vote Requizen
I want to see more from Requizen, OWB, Asmo, Moonbear, and LordTolkien. What are your town/scum reads?
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And in case the votes needs to be bolded:
##Vote Requizen
Again, I want to see more from Req,owb,Asmo,moonbear, and lordtolkien
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