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On October 14 2014 14:07 ketchup wrote:
I did say I would lay off Wave, but there are a few possibilities here that work.
Wave can easily be 3p.
Fair, but I think that needs to be dropped for now. We don't even know if we have poisoner yet (because lets be fair, if either of us is survivor then we're playing protown so it doesnt matter) and won't have any idea of that until we see the death count tomorrow night (and even then it could be iffy).
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Alright folks, I’m back to posting after a stupid busy day. And unfortunately, it’s not getting any easier, but I’ll be doing my best to keep up for the good of the town.
MoonBear was a big mistake (at least partially on my shoulders) that fit right into the scum plan. LordTolkien, God rest his soul, died for that same agenda.
I have made mistakes in this game. I plan to correct them with scum bodies.
That body is Soniv.
This hurts because I like the townie front Soniv puts on, but that’s because it’s a damn good front for scum. It starts with the MoonBear vote. Unfortunately, the MoonBear attack on D1 makes a lot of sense: MB’s posts are weird, don’t contribute much, and he more or less falls off the map. For the same reason, I also suspect him and, because MB’s a lurker, I manage to convince Alaric as well and generally keep the bandwagon rolling. This all seems well and good… so much so that there’s really no reason to directly suspect Soniv to be scum from this alone. We all make mistakes.
BUT
I believe that the MB mislynch was the first part in a scum plan to use crappy town play (like mine) and low-level lurking to kill off town players at the bottom of the barrel, while the mafia blows away the best town targets, such as LT. Annoying as he was, LT was one of the more useful townie players and, by claim, still had the possibility to hold a special role. Obviously, I think that the main scum target for would be Wave, but killing off Wave so early would’ve silenced a voice that, even indirectly, was giving cause for chaos and confusion and anger from townies. The fire started with ketchup (Alz earliest, but still) and caught easily, making Wave an unwitting ally of the scum. LT, on the other hand, may have rallied after trolling to lead the town closer to victory. That couldn’t stand, so he dies. I think this line of thought (and the plan altogether) takes experience to figure out during D1, and that also leads me toward Soniv.
Taken alone, this could be considered paranoia and reading too deeply into things. However (and as ketchup notes), it’s happening again. First, Soniv goes on Ghandi, creating a short-lived alliance between him and Wave just as Wave’s finished gunning for him. It’s easy to attack Ghandi since he was on LT’s list and on the top of Wave’s plus he hasn’t been around a lot to defend himself, putting him in the “semi-lurking, only maybe town camp.” That benefits Soniv possibly more than town, EVEN if Ghandi’s scum. But then, the target jumps to one that’s even easier: Coma. Barely posts, total lurk, easy target. And lo and behold, there’s a nigh-immediate bandwagon. That’s scary strong. Even worse, I don’t think that a lurker lynch serves the town past D1, not when our numbers dwindle so much. If town mislynches again, shit’s going to seem hopeless because we’ll really be grasping at straws. Especially if the polarizing figures of Wave and Ghandi remain in the game after N2 along with whatever remaining scum exists.
People have been saying Wave’s manipulating the game. If so, it’s far too obvious. I think the real game’s manipulator is Soniv and his scum goons (possibly Ghandi, Req, and/or Alz).
##Vote: Soniv
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lol and now I'm gonna look like I'm bandwagoning because I wrote this after ketchup and Wave's long posts but before they switched to Carl.
Damn I can't keep up with y'all.
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On October 14 2014 14:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 14:07 ketchup wrote:
I did say I would lay off Wave, but there are a few possibilities here that work.
Wave can easily be 3p. Fair, but I think that needs to be dropped for now. We don't even know if we have poisoner yet (because lets be fair, if either of us is survivor then we're playing protown so it doesnt matter) and won't have any idea of that until we see the death count tomorrow night (and even then it could be iffy).
Yep, which is why I didn't spend more sentences on it. Just clarifying that the 3p role exists.
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Damnit Asmo. Why do you have to post something legit on me like this.
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I do want to see what Soniv responds with. If this is bandwagon'd, I'm going to go crazy.
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Inorite
The timing is actually really good for him.
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On October 14 2014 14:15 ketchup wrote:
Damnit Asmo. Why do you have to post something legit on me like this.
Because I'm town-bro like you guys. I'm just shit at posting with frequency and it takes a lot of thought for me to pull something out like that. Plus, I needed your and Wave's help.
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Is there a limit on the amount of times a 3p can attack? This is the case in similar games I've played, so I'm curious.
Spoiler I'm not 3P
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Also I'm gonna be pissed if scumteam is something I wouldn't consider like lurk city owb/coma/jeff
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On October 14 2014 14:02 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.
I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm. This was at Ketchup, btw You don't actually go after people you think are scum. What happened to Alaric? Is he still scum for you? HOW is he scum for you? HOW is asmo leaning town to you. He is lurking harder than Ghandi was day 1. He made ONE post during the night stage, and at least ghandi had an excuse(school). So, I see a lot of odd inconsistency with your play. Wave thinks you aren't scummy, but Tolk felt these odd inconsistency with your demeanor as well. What happened to noob Req who doesn't know anything about the game? What was your reason for playing Day 1 that way? You sure were really confident in the night stage, and now you are back to not knowing anything at all? You are somehow going to vote comadose who already had 2 votes on him? Please. Try harder. Try to push people you actually think are scum. Give me good reasons please.
Literally what are you talking about. I spent most of D1 talking about how Wave and LordT were my top picks. I may have said some others were wishy washy. Go into my filter, either you are misremembering or fearmongering. I spent the first part of D1 half paying attention and shitposting, and after people yelled at me for it I changed my attitude. My only big posts were after my 2 big picks. I voted for both of them. I never started a witch hunt on either Alaric, in fact I didn't say anything about him until N1. I had no reason to vote him. And even that Night post was unsure.
I jumped on the Coma train because my confidence is shattered after my #1 turned up VT. I don't know how I can get this across to you any clearer. If I need to explain it again, you are clearly scum. I could understand why you would want to start pressure against me, but I don't know any reason why you would do it in such an incorrect, hamfisted manner unless you are scum that is trying to start yet another mislynch.
If anyone needs to try harder, it's you.
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See come on ketchup. ^^ That's not a scum post.
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fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.
Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma.
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You really think Ketchup is on the scum list?
You have high appraisal of his abilities.
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On October 14 2014 14:29 Requizen wrote:
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.
Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma.
I highly doubt it will be tbh.
By the way, if anyone else got roleblocked last night, you better claim it.
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On October 14 2014 14:19 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 14:02 ketchup wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.
I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm. This was at Ketchup, btw You don't actually go after people you think are scum. What happened to Alaric? Is he still scum for you? HOW is he scum for you? HOW is asmo leaning town to you. He is lurking harder than Ghandi was day 1. He made ONE post during the night stage, and at least ghandi had an excuse(school). So, I see a lot of odd inconsistency with your play. Wave thinks you aren't scummy, but Tolk felt these odd inconsistency with your demeanor as well. What happened to noob Req who doesn't know anything about the game? What was your reason for playing Day 1 that way? You sure were really confident in the night stage, and now you are back to not knowing anything at all? You are somehow going to vote comadose who already had 2 votes on him? Please. Try harder. Try to push people you actually think are scum. Give me good reasons please. Literally what are you talking about. I spent most of D1 talking about how Wave and LordT were my top picks. I may have said some others were wishy washy. Go into my filter, either you are misremembering or fearmongering. I spent the first part of D1 half paying attention and shitposting, and after people yelled at me for it I changed my attitude. My only big posts were after my 2 big picks. I voted for both of them. I never started a witch hunt on either Alaric, in fact I didn't say anything about him until N1. I had no reason to vote him. And even that Night post was unsure.I jumped on the Coma train because my confidence is shattered after my #1 turned up VT. I don't know how I can get this across to you any clearer. If I need to explain it again, you are clearly scum. I could understand why you would want to start pressure against me, but I don't know any reason why you would do it in such an incorrect, hamfisted manner unless you are scum that is trying to start yet another mislynch. If anyone needs to try harder, it's you.
I never said you started a witch hunt on Alaric. BUT your post containing him did call him scummy. What makes him scummy? What did you see that was scummy? I'm telling you that despite your insistence that you are town, you haven't done anything. I wouldn't even mind if you talked about Alaric for 40 pages or analyzed every single one of his line of posts, because at least you'd be doing something.
I felt this comadose train was really uninspired, and I called you out on it.
lol okay dude. I need to try harder. Please.
On October 14 2014 14:29 Requizen wrote:
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.
Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma.
lmao feel free to do that dude. I think you are so off base with a lot of your information that it makes no sense for you stick to them like you are doing. Now actually, go do something with your supposed scum list. Coma has also responded in the earlier pages if you hadn't noticed.
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Please Req, make a case against me if you think I'm scum. I'll be happy because at least it would show you are playing this game.
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Interestingly enough, I have to re-evaluate you because you were on point with your Asmo read, and which is why I keep asking for more information on your Alaric read.
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On October 14 2014 14:36 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 14:19 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 14:02 ketchup wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.
I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm. This was at Ketchup, btw You don't actually go after people you think are scum. What happened to Alaric? Is he still scum for you? HOW is he scum for you? HOW is asmo leaning town to you. He is lurking harder than Ghandi was day 1. He made ONE post during the night stage, and at least ghandi had an excuse(school). So, I see a lot of odd inconsistency with your play. Wave thinks you aren't scummy, but Tolk felt these odd inconsistency with your demeanor as well. What happened to noob Req who doesn't know anything about the game? What was your reason for playing Day 1 that way? You sure were really confident in the night stage, and now you are back to not knowing anything at all? You are somehow going to vote comadose who already had 2 votes on him? Please. Try harder. Try to push people you actually think are scum. Give me good reasons please. Literally what are you talking about. I spent most of D1 talking about how Wave and LordT were my top picks. I may have said some others were wishy washy. Go into my filter, either you are misremembering or fearmongering. I spent the first part of D1 half paying attention and shitposting, and after people yelled at me for it I changed my attitude. My only big posts were after my 2 big picks. I voted for both of them. I never started a witch hunt on either Alaric, in fact I didn't say anything about him until N1. I had no reason to vote him. And even that Night post was unsure.I jumped on the Coma train because my confidence is shattered after my #1 turned up VT. I don't know how I can get this across to you any clearer. If I need to explain it again, you are clearly scum. I could understand why you would want to start pressure against me, but I don't know any reason why you would do it in such an incorrect, hamfisted manner unless you are scum that is trying to start yet another mislynch. If anyone needs to try harder, it's you. I never said you started a witch hunt on Alaric. BUT your post containing him did call him scummy. What makes him scummy? What did you see that was scummy? I'm telling you that despite your insistence that you are town, you haven't done anything. I wouldn't even mind if you talked about Alaric for 40 pages or analyzed every single one of his line of posts, because at least you'd be doing something. I felt this comadose train was really uninspired, and I called you out on it. lol okay dude. I need to try harder. Please. Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 14:29 Requizen wrote:
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.
Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma. lmao feel free to do that dude. I think you are so off base with a lot of your information that it makes no sense for you stick to them like you are doing. Now actually, go do something with your supposed scum list. Coma has also responded in the earlier pages if you hadn't noticed.
This is my one and only single post about Alaric
On October 14 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote:
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation
A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.
I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment.
You can read it multiple times. This is all I've said about him. Why are you pushing me to dig into him more when I've already given my opinion on him and it hasn't changed? Why are you so hung up on it? I have said my piece, there is literally 0 reason for you to pressure me into attacking him when I said (as you can clearly read not two inches above this sentence) that I give him a low rating. Please tell me why this small post makes you so hung up on it when I have half a dozen of posts that are more or less identical about other people.
I have tried to do things for the town. I share information, I respond to posts, I encourage discussion. If the only way to prove myself town is to magically pull all scum names from my hat with an essay detailing each in the next 5 minutes, I will continue to disappoint you. I don't know what more you want from me.
##unvote
##vote ketchup
Maybe with this newly written information you will enjoy this vote better than the Coma bandwagon. Enjoy your night.
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On October 14 2014 14:55 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 14:36 ketchup wrote:On October 14 2014 14:19 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 14:02 ketchup wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.
I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm. This was at Ketchup, btw You don't actually go after people you think are scum. What happened to Alaric? Is he still scum for you? HOW is he scum for you? HOW is asmo leaning town to you. He is lurking harder than Ghandi was day 1. He made ONE post during the night stage, and at least ghandi had an excuse(school). So, I see a lot of odd inconsistency with your play. Wave thinks you aren't scummy, but Tolk felt these odd inconsistency with your demeanor as well. What happened to noob Req who doesn't know anything about the game? What was your reason for playing Day 1 that way? You sure were really confident in the night stage, and now you are back to not knowing anything at all? You are somehow going to vote comadose who already had 2 votes on him? Please. Try harder. Try to push people you actually think are scum. Give me good reasons please. Literally what are you talking about. I spent most of D1 talking about how Wave and LordT were my top picks. I may have said some others were wishy washy. Go into my filter, either you are misremembering or fearmongering. I spent the first part of D1 half paying attention and shitposting, and after people yelled at me for it I changed my attitude. My only big posts were after my 2 big picks. I voted for both of them. I never started a witch hunt on either Alaric, in fact I didn't say anything about him until N1. I had no reason to vote him. And even that Night post was unsure.I jumped on the Coma train because my confidence is shattered after my #1 turned up VT. I don't know how I can get this across to you any clearer. If I need to explain it again, you are clearly scum. I could understand why you would want to start pressure against me, but I don't know any reason why you would do it in such an incorrect, hamfisted manner unless you are scum that is trying to start yet another mislynch. If anyone needs to try harder, it's you. I never said you started a witch hunt on Alaric. BUT your post containing him did call him scummy. What makes him scummy? What did you see that was scummy? I'm telling you that despite your insistence that you are town, you haven't done anything. I wouldn't even mind if you talked about Alaric for 40 pages or analyzed every single one of his line of posts, because at least you'd be doing something. I felt this comadose train was really uninspired, and I called you out on it. lol okay dude. I need to try harder. Please. On October 14 2014 14:29 Requizen wrote:
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.
Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma. lmao feel free to do that dude. I think you are so off base with a lot of your information that it makes no sense for you stick to them like you are doing. Now actually, go do something with your supposed scum list. Coma has also responded in the earlier pages if you hadn't noticed. This is my one and only single post about Alaric Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote:
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation
A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.
I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment. You can read it multiple times. This is all I've said about him. Why are you pushing me to dig into him more when I've already given my opinion on him and it hasn't changed? Why are you so hung up on it? I have said my piece, there is literally 0 reason for you to pressure me into attacking him when I said (as you can clearly read not two inches above this sentence) that I give him a low rating. Please tell me why this small post makes you so hung up on it when I have half a dozen of posts that are more or less identical about other people. I have tried to do things for the town. I share information, I respond to posts, I encourage discussion. If the only way to prove myself town is to magically pull all scum names from my hat with an essay detailing each in the next 5 minutes, I will continue to disappoint you. I don't know what more you want from me. ##unvote ##vote ketchup Maybe with this newly written information you will enjoy this vote better than the Coma bandwagon. Enjoy your night.
I'll just leave this here:
On October 14 2014 14:40 ketchup wrote:
Interestingly enough, I have to re-evaluate you because you were on point with your Asmo read, and which is why I keep asking for more information on your Alaric read.
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On October 14 2014 14:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I'm gonna be pissed if scumteam is something I wouldn't consider like lurk city owb/coma/jeff
This reminds me. Where is mordek?
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