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On October 12 2014 04:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:37 Requizen wrote:On October 12 2014 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:So here's a question for you MB. You dropped a wall of text all focused on me, and then right at the end of it, dropped everything again and said this: So reverse we shall away from the focus of "he said, she said" details and to engagement. Lord Tolkein, AsmodeusXI and Requizen have the absolute worst engagement out of everyone here. Out of them Lord Tolkein has played 3 games and the other have never played before.**** I honestly think we should be talking about them. Asmo has said he will post again later but Tolkein and Req's posts have just been weird. No conclusions. No analysis. DICK ALL. You scum? what is there to analyze? The only "analysis" I've seen from anyone is they "have a feeling" based on nothing. That's not a conclusion that's a joke. This is mafia. That's the point.
That's kinda dumb.
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On October 12 2014 04:42 ketchup wrote:
The Cixah bandwagon is too real. Especially when coming from Alzadar and GhandiEagle. Wave is looking more and more townie just because people want to parrot previous arguments against him for badly thought out logic.
Moonbear's post was fairly terror. I hoped he would provide more. So moonbear, who are your top scum now that you know this game isn't rigged? There's no way only one person is scum to you right now right?
Requizen, I'll keep asking until you answer. Who are scum and who are town for you?
I have no idea. Everyone's posting sounds like everyone else. All everyone is saying is "I'm town you're scum" for flimsy reasons at best so my instinct is who knows?
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On October 12 2014 04:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Req I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to spend time arguing with you over how the game should be played and what you should or shouldn't be doing.
You can either contribute in a positive fashion and help the town win (assuming you're town) or you can swing by the neck until you are dead (or possibly be shot..?). Your current demeanor/attitude suggests you'd rather have the latter.
Entirely your choice.
I'm trying to contribute. If you don't like it for whatever asinine reason you came up with then you sound like shame-shifting scum and I hope you die first.
Rude.
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I will play far more seriously once I'm home/at work. But for now, wedding. Posting will be sporadic at best if at all.
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So if you don't know what's going on you can't say you don't know what's going on because it auto makes you scum. Gotcha.
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Alright, still busy tofay but more time to read and post. I do apologize for my behavior yesterday, I did only have time to read a few and got upset that many of them were directed at my posting. I should know better than to take things like that personally.
Now, I still think it's far too early to make many calls - not saying D1 is useless again, but still that most calls are too gut-feeling to be substantial. But as of now my biggest read is Lord Tolkien. Why? He seems to be bandwagoning for no lurker bans on OWB and Coma, and also see-sawing on saying "I dislike policy bans" and "we should just policy ban.
If I understand correctly, scum know who scum are. So the only reason he should be protrcting anyone is either a) he's scum and so are they or b) he's too sentimental. I don't think it's the latter.
##unvote WaveOfShadow
##vote Lord Tolkien
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Very iffy at this point, but I'm feeling OWB. If Scumlord is Scum then he's doing a good job of saying "OWB will be useless onve he starts posting and should be lynched, but I'm not going to lynch him yet".
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Well I think everyone at this point wants to think that they read confirmed town whether they're trying or not. But it doesn't really mean anything does it?
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On October 12 2014 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I'm glad that was the one thing you got out of my post.
And if he continues to play that way, at what point do we do something about it? He's not going to get any easier to read as the game goes on.
Yo I get Jeff is Jeff but killing him on the principle that he's Jeff is kinda scummy.
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Whatever man. I was told that D1 is all about gut feelings and I'm teying to play the game the way it's "supposed" to be played.
My D1 gut is that, based on your posts, you're scum.
Wave is still high up too. He's playing a lot of games. That might just be his relative experience, but my tendency is to not trust people who are better at the game than me.
My natural instinct is to trust MB but I need to go back into his filter I think.
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On October 13 2014 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I am somewhat able to believe MoonBear is just scrubbier at mafia than Req is at Pokemon.
Hey, fuck you.
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Wave's lack of vote gives a bad vibe to me. Is he just scum, waiting to jump on the train of whatever townie is going to be lynched?
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On October 13 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fuck today really is too hard.
Soniv where the shit are you?
I normally don't like going outside of game but you just posted in OT, and you played a bunch of league. Surely you must realize that the town has very little direction right now, and surely you're not of the alignment of people who wouldn't care about that kind of situation...
Why are you so set on Soniv being around? Double scum confirmed?
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I haven't decided to change yet. I still think LordTolk is iffy but so are you. Maybe fuck you both.
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##unvote
##vote waveofshadow
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On October 13 2014 06:19 AsmodeusXI wrote:Now use your words please. Why the sudden change of heart?
Like I said, both are on my scum list. But Wave is much more manipulative and that worries me. He also has very strong biases at this point in my opinion, stronger than I'm comfortable with given the lack of info.
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On October 13 2014 06:38 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 04:11 Cixah wrote:
##Unvote
I have another post comming, forgot to to that last night before bed. So umm..... No patience. I had things to do today. Most of the reasoning that the majority of the people have come to seems slightly influenced by wave or alaric in some way. Which is fine unless we don't actually get a good lynch after tonight. My reads right now. Soniv is majority town. His lurkyness right now is still mostly in the favor of town when it comes to who has pressed who. I'd like to see more of his opinion on Alaric and Wave's position, preferably before the lynch in 3 hrs. Wave is town. He's being augmentative but only because he's digging for more information. Assuming he doesn't die tonight, we'll have a decent idea of what's to come for d2. Moonbear and Tolkin seem the most scummy to me right now. Moonbear's posts have been analyzed and I really have nothing new to add to them other than I think the lynch on him is probably not tonight. I would feel more comfortable if we had a vigi shot or something similar for him, but that's really not my call. Tolkin's posts have been sporatically themed with a very heavy dose of "Cause Dissension at every Turn". His rabid unwillingness to answer any sort of questions in reguards to reads, why he's voting Bandwagon, and never moving any town facing conversation forward. Comadose hasn't said anything, but if he makes it to day 2 I think he'll make more of an appearance. For now I'm willing to lean on neutral because he legit has 1 page worth of filter. Post more. I need to know how you feel in this game, Specifically about Wave, Soniv, Tolkin, and Asmo. Ketchep leans town for me. I'm not convinced he's The Towniest Town in Town, but he's moving in that direction. Asmo is town. Azladar is Null for me. I'm still unsure how to read his, mordek, jeff's REALLY early bandwagon but it doesn't sit well at all with me. For now those 3 or neutral. Req is leans town but is playing like a wounded sheep. Req how do you feel about Azladar, Mordek and Jeff? I'm still holding my vote for now, but most likely it will be used on Moonbear. I'm not convinced outside of last second heroics that you're not scum. Either that or you're just playing with a giant veil over your words because you want people to read way to deep into your posts and find nothing.
Alzadar and Mordek are strange. They have a lot of posts but I don't think they've said too much that's substantive. It makes them suspicious but I feel like they might just be biding their time.
Jeff is a shitter. His shit posts make him a bad person but not necessarily scum. I wouldn't be upset/surprised if he died but I'm not pushing it right now.
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Lynching MB for his low posting (which is still more than he normally posts anywhere else) is a scum move and makes you a bad person imo.
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On October 13 2014 07:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
This sucks.
I don't want to lynch a townie, but in lieu of a better argument for WHO to lynch (even if that argument is in the form of an RNG function... though I'm not in favor of that on principle) I gotta stick to my guns.
MB's showed no evidence he's town and provided no good reasoning or opinions for anyone else. What he has done is post a bunch of weird, unclear stuff. That smells like scum.
I dunno, I think that was just him trying to spark discussion in his own, crazy, british way. Tryhard (though silly) posts != scum
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On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.
I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?
Vote accordingly, people. You aren't a mod, stop trying to dictate how this game goes. Until a mod comes out and tells me this isn't allowed, I will definitely keep posting about it. The mod kill discussion was 100% legit because of this random ass move to jump on the ghandieagle bandwagon started by you, and followed by Tolkien. Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.
##Vote: GhandiEAGLE This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious. ##Vote: MoonBear
This is what makes me vote Wave. The manipulation stops here. Even if he's town, I don't want him to dictate the flow of everything. Don't be caught in a situation where he can turn the town against you with his words.
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